[linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

Markus Rechberger mrechberger at gmail.com
Wed Jul 11 15:37:45 CEST 2007


I would appreciate if you could stop spamming the em28xx ML since I
prefer to use it for relevant issues; Currently there are around 200
people registered most of them aren't interested in internal linuxtv
issues.

Try to resolve all existing relevant problems first (since there are a
few other problems out there within the linuxtv "core developer(s)"
community)

-Markus

On 7/11/07, Johannes Stezenbach <js at linuxtv.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote:
> > On 7/10/07, Trent Piepho <xyzzy at speakeasy.org> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote:
> > > > Stop that MPL discussion, I can put that code offline too and update
> > > > it with some probably nonfunctional code for several devices but it
> > > > won't help anyone in the end - so I won't do it.
> > > > I don't want my work to be stolen by linuxtv people in the end. It's
> > >
> > > It's funny you should say this, since 99% of the code you are
> distributing
> > > came from linuxtv in the first place!
> >
> > Trent, I believe you're smart enough to see the problem behind
> > everything .. the license stuff is the smallest part of everything;
> > I don't steal and obfuscate code and remove the copyrights.
> > And I for sure will not tell anyone how he has to do his work after a
> > discussion where I didn't seriously participate.
> > The code as it is will get removed sooner or later and replaced with a
> > smaller package which only contains the necessary drivers.
> >
> > I wonder what you try to gain by bothering about the license there all
> > you can win is the removal of the code there and the release of the
> > replacement of the around 80% finished reworked code. So please stay
> > serious and better try to fix the community problems that something
> > like that won't happen again.
>
> I wonder what you mean by "I don't want my work to be stolen by
> linuxtv people"?
>
> You had your code up for download on linuxtv.org and then on mcentral.de
> for months, and you asked lots of people to download and test it, which
> IMHO clearly is "distribution under the GPL".
>
> So everyone who downloaded it has every right granted by the GPL
> to modify and redistribute your code under the GPL, which implies
> it could be merged it into the main linuxtv.org tree and eventually
> the kernel. Of course it doesn't make sense to merge unsupported code
> (which even has known issues wich need to be resolved first), however if
> someone would adopt it I see no (legal) reason for not merging it.
>
> Maybe you don't like this to happen, but IMHO all the
> people who downloaded and tested your code, and contributed
> back in form of bug reports, hardware information, patches etc.
> wouldn't have done so if they had known that your code would
> not be merged into the mainline kernel. Some people might even
> have bought hardware after they read though your Wiki pages,
> under the impression that it was well supported by Linux.
>
> Of course you are free to do whatever you like with the
> code written by you, but everyone else is free to do
> what the GPL permits them with the code distributed by
> you under the GPL.
>
>
> Johannes
>


-- 
Markus Rechberger



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