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| '''Vendor''' || '''Model''' || '''Frontend''' || '''Bridge Interface''' || '''8VSB''' || '''QAM''' || '''NTSC''' || '''Comp/S-video''' || '''Analog CC''' || '''PID filtering'''<sup id="fn_3_back">[[#fn_3|3]]</sup>
| '''Vendor''' & '''Model''' || '''Digital Demodulator''' || '''Bridge Interface''' || '''8VSB''' || '''QAM''' || '''NTSC''' || '''Comp/S-video''' || '''Analog CC''' || '''Other Features'''
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|style="background:#efefef;" - align="right"|'''ATI '''|| '''HDTV Wonder'''|| nxt2004 || cx23882 || yes || no<sup id="fn_1_back">[[#fn_1|1]]</sup> || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> || sw
| - align="right"|'''ATI HDTV Wonder'''||| nxt2004 || cx23882 || yes || no<sup id="fn_1_back">[[#fn_1|1]]</sup> || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> ||
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|style="background:#efefef;" - align="right"|'''AverMedia'''||''' AVerTVHD A180'''|| nxt2004 || saa7135 || yes || yes || no || yes || ? || sw
| - align="right"|'''AverMedia AVerTVHD A180'''||| nxt2004 || saa7135 || yes || yes || no || yes || ? ||
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|style="background:#efefef;" - align="right"|'''BBTI/Technisat'''||''' Air2PC''' (1st)|| bcm3510 || flexcop || yes || no || no || no || no || hw
| - align="right"|'''BBTI/Technisat Air2PC''' (1st)||| bcm3510 || flexcop || yes || no || no || no || no || Hardware PID filtering <sup id="fn_3_back">[[#fn_3|3]]</sup>
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|style="background:#efefef;" - align="right"| ||'''Air2PC''' (2nd)|| nxt2002 || flexcop || yes || no<sup id="fn_5_back">[[#fn_5|5]]</sup> || no || no || no || hw
| - align="right"|'''Air2PC''' (2nd)||| nxt2002 || flexcop || yes || no<sup id="fn_5_back">[[#fn_5|5]]</sup> || no || no || no || Hardware PID filtering <sup id="fn_3_back">[[#fn_3|3]]</sup>
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|style="background:#efefef;" - align="right"| ||'''AirStar HD5000'''|| lgdt3303 || flexcop || yes || yes || no || no || no || hw
| - align="right"|'''AirStar HD5000'''||| lgdt3303 || flexcop || yes || yes || no || no || no || Hardware PID filtering <sup id="fn_3_back">[[#fn_3|3]]</sup>
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|style="background:#efefef;" - align="right"|'''Dvico'''||'''FusionHDTV3 Gold-Q'''|| lgdt3302 || cx23882 || yes || yes || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> || sw
| - align="right"|'''[[DVICO|Dvico]] FusionHDTV3 Gold-Q'''||| lgdt3302 || cx23882 || yes || yes || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> ||
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|style="background:#efefef;" - align="right"| ||'''FusionHDTV3 Gold-T'''|| lgdt3302 || cx23882 || yes || yes || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> || sw
| - align="right"|'''FusionHDTV3 Gold-T'''||| lgdt3302 || cx23882 || yes || yes || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> ||
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|style="background:#efefef;" - align="right"| ||'''FusionHDTV5 Lite'''|| lgdt3303 || bt878 || yes || yes || yes || yes<sup id="fn_6_back">[[#fn_6|6]]</sup> || yes || sw
| - align="right"|'''FusionHDTV5 Lite'''||| lgdt3303 || bt878 || yes || yes || yes || yes<sup id="fn_6_back">[[#fn_6|6]]</sup> || yes ||
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|style="background:#efefef;" - align="right"| ||'''FusionHDTV5 Gold'''|| lgdt3303 || cx23882 || yes || yes || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> || sw
| - align="right"|'''FusionHDTV5 Gold'''||| lgdt3303 || cx23882 || yes || yes || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> ||
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|style="background:#efefef;" - align="right"| ||'''FusionHDTV5 USB Gold'''|| lgdt3303 || Cypress FX2LP || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_4_back">[[#fn_4|4]]</sup> || no<sup id="fn_4_back">[[#fn_4|4]]</sup> || ? || sw
| - align="right"|'''FusionHDTV5 USB Gold'''||| lgdt3303 || Cypress FX2LP || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_4_back">[[#fn_4|4]]</sup> || no<sup id="fn_4_back">[[#fn_4|4]]</sup> || ? ||
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|style="background:#efefef;" - align="right"|'''Kworld'''||'''ATSC-110'''|| nxt2004 || saa7135 || yes || yes || yes || yes || ? || sw
| - align="right"|'''[[KWorld|KWorld]] ATSC 110'''||| nxt2004 || saa7135 || yes || yes || yes || yes || ? ||
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|style="background:#efefef;" - align="right"|'''pcHDTV'''||'''HD-2000'''|| or511xx || bt878? || yes || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? | sw
| - align="right"|'''pcHDTV HD-2000'''||| or511xx || bt878? || yes || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? |
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|style="background:#efefef;" - align="right"| ||'''HD-3000'''|| or51132|| cx23882 || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> || sw
| - align="right"|'''HD-3000'''||| or51132|| cx23882 || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> ||
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|style="background:#efefef;" - align="right"| ||'''HD-5500'''|| lgdt3303 || cx23883 || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || sw
| - align="right"|'''HD-5500'''||| lgdt3303 || cx23883 || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes ||
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|style="background:#efefef;" - align="right"|'''Skydigital'''||'''SKY-HDTV'''|| lgdt3303 || cx23881 || yes || yes || yes || yes || ? || sw
| - align="right"|'''Skydigital SKY-HDTV'''||| lgdt3303 || cx23881 || yes || yes || yes || yes || ? ||
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proof positive examples have materialized. Thus, in the current state of support, it would be prudent to assume that it will not work. Hopefully this can be rectified <br>
proof positive examples have materialized. Thus, in the current state of support, it would be prudent to assume that it will not work. Hopefully this can be rectified <br>
<cite id="fn_2">[[#fn_2_back|Note 2:]] </cite> The 5500 analog CC works, so the 3000 should too, but I haven't verified the 3000 personally. If you have, please remove this note.<br>
<cite id="fn_2">[[#fn_2_back|Note 2:]] </cite> The 5500 analog CC works, so the 3000 should too, but I haven't verified the 3000 personally. If you have, please remove this note.<br>
<cite id="fn_3">[[#fn_3_back|Note 3:]] </cite> 'hw' = hardware, 'sw' = software. Hardware PID filtering allows the card to discard unwanted packets. This typically amounts to saving <10% of the bitrate of a 8-VSB or QAM-64 broadcast, and >55% of the bitrate of a QAM-256 broadcast.<br>
<cite id="fn_3">[[#fn_3_back|Note 3:]] </cite> The Flexcop IC's hardware PID filtering capability allows the card to discard unwanted packets from the Transport Stream payload. This typically amounts to saving <10% off the bitrate of a 8-VSB (~19.4 Mbps) or 64-QAM (~27 Mbps) Transport Stream, and >55% of the bitrate of a 256-QAM (~38.8 Mbps) Transport Stream<br>
<cite id="fn_4">[[#fn_4_back|Note 4:]] </cite> Hardware should allow it, but the driver has no support yet.<br>
<cite id="fn_4">[[#fn_4_back|Note 4:]] </cite> Hardware should allow it, but the driver has no support yet.<br>
<cite id="fn_5">[[#fn_5_back|Note 5:]] </cite> The demodulator supports QAM-64/256, but the tuner can't handle cable frequencies.<br>
<cite id="fn_5">[[#fn_5_back|Note 5:]] </cite> The demodulator supports QAM-64/256, but the tuner can't handle cable frequencies.<br>

Revision as of 23:05, 4 February 2007

The following table lists the confirmed working ATSC PCI cards and provides a brief feature summary for them.

In addition to this list,

  • there are several cards that may actually work with existing drivers, but no reports have yet been provided. If you have such a non-listed but working device please do report your success (either here and/or on the dvb-mailing list). Your contribution would be greatly appreciated, and would allow for developers to add your device's definitions to the current drivers, so that it may be properly listed/named when detected.
  • if you do not see your card on the list, there may already be experimental support available. Currently, the best source for information on devices with experimental support is found by searching the dvb mailing list achieves (google works well) or by posting a question about the device directly to the list (but please conduct a search first, as it may already have been discussed).
  • There are also a few DVB cards requiring definition that have not been confirmed to work

Note: The table currently also contains a USB device. It will be removed and placed in the appropriate section shortly.


Vendor & Model Digital Demodulator Bridge Interface 8VSB QAM NTSC Comp/S-video Analog CC Other Features
ATI HDTV Wonder nxt2004 cx23882 yes no1 yes yes no2
AverMedia AVerTVHD A180 nxt2004 saa7135 yes yes no yes ?
BBTI/Technisat Air2PC (1st) bcm3510 flexcop yes no no no no Hardware PID filtering 3
Air2PC (2nd) nxt2002 flexcop yes no5 no no no Hardware PID filtering 3
AirStar HD5000 lgdt3303 flexcop yes yes no no no Hardware PID filtering 3
Dvico FusionHDTV3 Gold-Q lgdt3302 cx23882 yes yes yes yes no2
FusionHDTV3 Gold-T lgdt3302 cx23882 yes yes yes yes no2
FusionHDTV5 Lite lgdt3303 bt878 yes yes yes yes6 yes
FusionHDTV5 Gold lgdt3303 cx23882 yes yes yes yes no2
FusionHDTV5 USB Gold lgdt3303 Cypress FX2LP yes yes no4 no4 ?
KWorld ATSC 110 nxt2004 saa7135 yes yes yes yes ?
pcHDTV HD-2000 or511xx bt878? yes ? ? ? ?
HD-3000 or51132 cx23882 yes yes yes yes yes2
HD-5500 lgdt3303 cx23883 yes yes yes yes yes
Skydigital SKY-HDTV lgdt3303 cx23881 yes yes yes yes ?

Note 1: The demodulator supports 64/256-QAM, and it is rumoured that some may have had sucess -- However -- no proof positive examples have materialized. Thus, in the current state of support, it would be prudent to assume that it will not work. Hopefully this can be rectified
Note 2: The 5500 analog CC works, so the 3000 should too, but I haven't verified the 3000 personally. If you have, please remove this note.
Note 3: The Flexcop IC's hardware PID filtering capability allows the card to discard unwanted packets from the Transport Stream payload. This typically amounts to saving <10% off the bitrate of a 8-VSB (~19.4 Mbps) or 64-QAM (~27 Mbps) Transport Stream, and >55% of the bitrate of a 256-QAM (~38.8 Mbps) Transport Stream
Note 4: Hardware should allow it, but the driver has no support yet.
Note 5: The demodulator supports QAM-64/256, but the tuner can't handle cable frequencies.
Note 6: Has a working comp/s-video port hidden behind the card-plate.

Air2PC

The Air2PC cards usually consume less PCI and memory bandwidth than the other cards because they have a hardware PID filter. The hardware only handles a few streams, which may be limiting if collecting EIT data. The PID filtering is most useful when recording one program in a QAM-256 stream, or when recording low resolution streams. It doesn't save much bandwidth when recording an HDTV stream encoded with 8-VSB, since that set of streams consumes most of the bandwidth anyway.

DViCO

See DVICO.

Skydigital

See

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