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| *** | ChanServ sets mode: +v mchehab` | [06:28] |
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| mchehab | hi all | [11:58] |
| sailus | Hello!
It's quiet here. | [12:05] |
| mchehab | yep
pinchartl is travelling not sure about hverkuil1 from my side, I'd like to organize a meeting maybe in Japan during OSS JP in order to discuss the issues with MC-based drivers usage on PCs as we've discussed a few weeks ago (e. g. IPU3) I've been talking with Google, with, in turn, talked with Intel China got also an internal approval for such project sailus, hverkuil1: would you be able to join us during OSS Japan? pinchartl: same question to you (when you'll be able to read the backlogs) basically, addressing what we've discussed on Apr, 19: https://linuxtv.org/irc/irclogger_log/media-maint?date=2018-04-19,Thu | [12:05] |
| sailus | mchehab: When would that be? | [12:13] |
| mchehab | https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/open-source-summit-japan-2018/
June 20 - 22, 2018 Tokyo Conference Center Ariake Tokyo, Japan hi mkrufky | [12:14] |
| mkrufky | hey, almost forgot to join today | [12:16] |
| mchehab | backlogs for today's meeting: https://linuxtv.org/irc/irclogger_log/media-maint?date=2018-05-17,Thu | [12:17] |
| mkrufky | but i read the backlog
yes :-) | [12:17] |
| mchehab | OK! | [12:17] |
| syoung | Hello! | [12:17] |
| mkrufky | I'd love to join in Japan, never been there, but unfortunately, I realize that I don't really have any expertise to add on the exact subject | [12:18] |
| mchehab | yeah, it is mostly related to webcam support
any thing from your side? FYI, I had to rebase my tree today I kept the old branch as a tag, to avoid conflicts when pulling | [12:18] |
| syoung | mchehab: would you mind reviewing by IR BPF patches please? Would be good to get your input. | [12:20] |
| mchehab | three patches went there without the SOB from its author | [12:20] |
| sailus | mchehab: I've resend the patches in question, squashing the fix for the compiler warning while at that. | [12:20] |
| mchehab | yeah, I saw your comments
I'll pull it after solving some issues with smatch database | [12:20] |
| sailus | I've got way more sensor driver patches in queue. | [12:21] |
| mchehab | never used it, but, apparently, smatch requires it for some kind of reports | [12:21] |
| sailus | I've rebased them on the resend patches, so I have all of that in a single branch; I'll send a pull request soonish. | [12:22] |
| mchehab | sailus: ok, be sure to have the author's SOB, specially on new drivers | [12:22] |
| sailus | mchehab: Yes, I will.
I missed checking that since git gets that right automatically. | [12:22] |
| mchehab | no, git doesn't check it automatically | [12:22] |
| sailus | It doesn't check it, but you have to manually remove these lines to get rid of them. | [12:23] |
| mchehab | ?
I've no idea about what you're talking about SOB is only added when the author explicitly use "-s" | [12:23] |
| pinchartl | mchehab: I'll be at OSsJ, so the venue would be ideal for me | [12:24] |
| mchehab | (or when config is changed to auto-add it)
pinchartl: good! if this is OK for the others, I'll talk with LF and see if we can get a room there | [12:24] |
| pinchartl | I have heard that the Intel Beijing team would prefer to host the meeting in Beijing during linuxcon china the week after OSSJ, but I'm afraid that I'm not available that week
mchehab: I'm sure we could get a conference room at Google if needed | [12:25] |
| mchehab | yes, I guess so | [12:25] |
| pinchartl | I'll also have a meeting room available for the whole week, but it might be a bit too small depending on the number of attendees. I think I can host 6 people at most | [12:26] |
| mchehab | yeah, seems small
but let's see once I heard from sailus and hverkuil1, I'll write an e-mail to the ML asking if are there other interested parties for this invitation-only discussion | [12:26] |
| pinchartl | from a schedule point of view, I'll give a talk at OSSJ on Friday at 15:15, that's my only commitment I can't escape | [12:27] |
| mchehab | ok | [12:28] |
| pinchartl | Sakari is working for a different team at Intel and his travel budget is limited, I don't think he would get funding from his boss. however, if you convey the message to Intel Beijing that his participation would be very valuable and ask for them to sponsor his trip, I think it should be doable
(assuming he's available personally during that week of course) | [12:29] |
| sailus | pinchartl: Thanks a lot but I think we could handle this internally. | [12:29] |
| mchehab | ok | [12:29] |
| pinchartl | sailus: :-) | [12:30] |
| mchehab | please let us know if you need any help
sailus: will this week work for you? | [12:30] |
| pinchartl | sailus: internally would be much better of course | [12:30] |
| mchehab | June 20 - 22, 2018
(we could do before June 20 if needed) | [12:30] |
| pinchartl | I could attend on June the 19th too
but I'll land in Japan on Monday the 18th in the morning, so Monday wouldn't be a very good option for me | [12:31] |
| mchehab | Jun, 19 seems a good option to me, as it won't conflict with any speech
I suspect that one day could be enough, but we may use more if needed syoung: I'll try to look at the BPF patches | [12:32] |
| pinchartl | I think one day should be enough
we could use more if we turned this into a code camp, but that's too early | [12:33] |
| mchehab | I don't know much about BPF, so I was actually waiting for more BPF reviews before looking into it :-D | [12:34] |
| syoung | mchehab: that would be great, thanks
ok, well it is unlikely to make it for 4.18 so there is no particular rush. | [12:34] |
| mchehab | yeah, I don't like to rush this for 4.18
we don't have past experiences with BPF on media so, better to take some time to be sure that we're doing it right anything else for discussions? | [12:36] |
| syoung | I've been thinking about changing the interface to microseconds. I don't know why rc-core does everything in nanoseconds | [12:38] |
| mchehab | sailus: I'm waiting for your answer about the June 19-22 week | [12:38] |
| syoung | even with a carrier of 70kHz one period is still 14 microseconds. | [12:38] |
| mchehab | hverkuil1: the same: I'm waiting for your answer if you'll be available during June 19-22 week for a meeting during OSS Japan
I'll start preparing an ANN email about that | [12:39] |
| syoung | mchehab: do know why nanoseconds was chosen? Everything in userspace is microseconds, so maybe bpf should do the same | [12:39] |
| mchehab | I guess it was chosen based on the time structs we have/had | [12:40] |
| pinchartl | mchehab: there will be lots of participants, if we want the meeting to be useful we'll need a clear agenda with a limited set of clear goals. otherwise I fear it will go in all directions and nothing will happen | [12:40] |
| mchehab | yes, sure
I'm actually thinking on a sort of CFP at the announcement e-mail asking for the things to be discussed we can then discuss here about the themes that will be there and the ones that we'll postpone for discussions via e-mail (or on some other meeting, if really needed a second round of discussions) I'll be in KR on July. So, if we really need a second meeting in Asia, we try to do it there... otherwise, doing together with the media summit, likely in Vancouver | [12:40] |
| sailus | mchehab: At the moment I can confirm I won't be on holidays that week.
I'm however just arriving back to Finland at the end of the previous week. | [12:45] |
| mchehab | (I'm thinking that we should do our media summit this year together with Plumbers/Kernel Summit - in November at Vancouver) | [12:47] |
| sailus | How about ELc-E? | [12:48] |
| mchehab | sailus: do you have an alternative date in mind, for doing it in Asia? | [12:48] |
| sailus | mchehab: Just that Monday that week likely won't be an option.
Tuesday onwards would work, in principle. | [12:49] |
| mchehab | ok
with regards to media-summit, let's discuss it later. ELCE is an interesting option, although, IMHO, doing together with KS has advantages we don't need to decide it yet | [12:50] |
| mkrufky | I assumed it would be during ELCE
I must get approval soon, etc... I want to attend the right conf | [12:52] |
| mchehab | do you need an approval soon for an event in October (or November?) | [12:53] |
| mkrufky | is KS colocated with ELCE this year? | [12:53] |
| mchehab | no. KS is co-located with Plumbers
in Vancouver | [12:53] |
| mkrufky | ah
I ws thinking of booking ELCE this week, but maybe I'll wait if we're not going to do media summit there | [12:53] |
| mchehab | well, you could reserve budget for Oct/Nov
it should either be on ELCE or KS but it is premature to book, IMHO | [12:54] |
| mkrufky | understood. when will we decide? i like to book early because the hotels closer to the event sell out quicker
just my preference :-) hopefully we can decide over the next month? | [12:55] |
| pinchartl | I will likely attend both LPC and ELCE, so feel free to pick any | [12:57] |
| mchehab | let's discuss about that on a next meeting | [13:00] |
| mkrufky | Anyway, I also see the value of colocating with KS, but with my diminished contributions, I hope I could be invited to KS as well | [13:00] |
| mchehab | KS now has a different model | [13:00] |
| mkrufky | (hint hint nudge nudge) | [13:01] |
| mchehab | the thing is that other Kernel developers will be there, so it helps to discuss things that could cross other sub-systems | [13:01] |
| mkrufky | yes, for sure | [13:01] |
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| hverkuil1 | A meeting in June 19-22 is very short notice for me. I am available in that I am not on vacation or anything but to get funding for such a meeting I need a really good reason.
Do I understand correctly that Intel China wants to work on creating a userspace solution for this? I.e. they are really willing to money and resources into this? I don't want to travel all the way for a vaporware project. Re media summit: I'll be at the ELCE (last chance to stock up on whiskies while the UK is still in the EU!) I have no plans to attend the LPC. Given the number of European developers, I believe the ELCE is more suitable, but that's my opinion. (I meant "European media developers") | [17:04] |
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| pinchartl | hverkuil1: my understanding is that Google is pushing Intel Beijing to provide a solution. the interest comes from Google, for Chrome OS
and regarding LPC Vancouver is a nice city ;-) | [20:18] |
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