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| mchehab | hi all | [11:58] |
| hverkuil | hi | [11:58] |
| syoung | hi all | [12:01] |
| mchehab | let's start the meeting...
from my side, I created a new status ("driver maintainer") and changed venus and hauppauge-related stuff (handled by brad) to it | [12:03] |
| hverkuil | nice | [12:04] |
| mchehab | I also handled all pending PRs
that's a temporary solution while we don't have a way to delegate patches to sub-maintainers s/sub-maintainers/driver maintainers/ we have now just 32 undelegated patches almost all from this month the only older patch is this one: https://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/56465/ this one is a behavior change, so we should look into it carefully | [12:04] |
| hverkuil | mchehab: it would be great if you can review https://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/56798 for those PCI drivers you maintain. | [12:07] |
| mchehab | not sure who can review it. sailus? pinchartl?
hverkuil: I'll take a look cx88 is a bit weird, as it works with sub-interfaces | [12:07] |
| hverkuil | I'm preparing a similar series where vidioc_enum_fmt is no longer filling in the description field, leaving it to the core instead to ensure consistent names. | [12:09] |
| mchehab | hverkuil: please notice that I won't be able to test those PCI devices | [12:09] |
| hverkuil | mchehab: if you have concerns about one or more of those devices then let me know. I can try to test next week. | [12:10] |
| mchehab | i would recommend testing cx88 | [12:11] |
| hverkuil | I might test ivtv myself: the old code looked flaky to me if you have an ivtv board with saa7114. But I don't know if I have one of those... | [12:11] |
| mchehab | the driver probe logic there is a little weird
if you have a blackbird board, you would be able to test everything | [12:11] |
| hverkuil | I have one of those.
sailus: when you read this, can you look at the remaining sparse warnings? You said you'd make a patch to fix those, and it would be nice to have that merged. I don't have anything else of importance in the pipeline. | [12:12] |
| mchehab | I didn't receive any news yet from LPC/KS comittee with regards to Lisbon meting | [12:15] |
| hverkuil | The stateful encoder/decoder tests are now merged in v4l-utils master, so that should help going forward. | [12:15] |
| mchehab | maybe we could try to seek for an alternative space there | [12:15] |
| hverkuil | No stateless decoder tests yet.
Lisbon is a nice city :-) I'm happy to have a good excuse to go there. | [12:16] |
| mchehab | yeah, me too
it is the shortest trip from Brazil among all places in EU and US | [12:17] |
| hverkuil | If we have to rent a space for a day (or perhaps two? It would hurt to use the opportunity to start brainstorming about the new proposed streaming and fmt ioctls), then I can probably get Cisco to sponsor at least part of the costs. | [12:18] |
| mchehab | as a plus, they speak Portuguese | [12:18] |
| hverkuil | Doesn't help me :-) | [12:18] |
| mchehab | this time, I don't think Samsung will be able to sponsor
do you know if Google has some facilities there? Perhaps our developers there could help getting an space if they have something | [12:19] |
| hverkuil | If it is in a place with some bars/restaurants in the neighborhood (they were everywhere last time I was in Lisbon), then we don't need sponsoring for drinks.
You mean Cisco? | [12:21] |
| mchehab | well, if Cisco has, that could help too
Google seems to have a place there... Perhaps tfiga could help us finding an space I bet that there are lots of bars//restaurants closeby but doing a long meeting on such environments is probably not to comfortable | [12:22] |
| hverkuil | There are companies that rent out office space for one or two days, similar to what hotels do. I remember that pinchartl arranged that one time in Brussels.
If you can find something like that in Lisbon in a decent location, then that would be an option. | [12:24] |
| mchehab | yeah, that would work.
anyway, just sent an email to Tomasz/Alexandre, in order to check if Google might help us on that | [12:26] |
| hverkuil | Or perhaps rent a room from a hotel. No idea how much they charge. | [12:27] |
| mchehab | it's a long shot, but it would make easier | [12:27] |
| hverkuil | (there is a sales Cisco office, but it is on the far outskirts of Lisbon in some office park. Quite close to the Samsung office there, actually) | [12:28] |
| mchehab | if we do the meeting before or after KS/LPC days, it can be on a separate location | [12:29] |
| hverkuil | I'm still not sure if I am actually going to attend LPC or just go for the media summit. | [12:31] |
| mchehab | There is a site with helps finding rent locations:
https://pt.hotelplanner.com/Search/Meeting-Space.htm?maxrows=10&startrow=1&zoom=5&sortby=Distance&radius=120&City=lisboa&latitude=&longitude=&StreetNumber=&InDate=09%2F12%2F2019&InDate_disp=12%2F09%2F2019&Duration=1&RoomType=1&NumPeople=18&TimeFrame=2&NumRooms=0&RoomSize=20&WidthMetric=Meters&HotelName=&Rating=&PriceMin=1&PriceMax=999999&ViewType=List but it doesn't show the prices hmm... it showed for one site Ramada by Wyndham Lisbon €100,00 for an entire day nah, that's nt the price A room for 40 people on round tables costs 250 euros I suspect that this is just the price for the room we'll need to add other services (wifi, projector, white board, mic) | [12:32] |
| hverkuil | If we organize this outside the main LPC, then I doubt we'll have many people. In any case, 250 would be fine.
Ah, yes. Personally I'd rather pay a bit more for a nice location (within reason, of course). | [12:35] |
| mchehab | well, there are some locations on some resorts near the beach in Cascais :-p
(with is a nearby city) to be clear: I'm just joking about that :-) | [12:38] |
| hverkuil | Thank heavens :-) | [12:39] |
| mchehab | hmm... Cascais is not that far... 30 mins from Lisbon downtown
didn't know that... I should try schedule a trip to it this time | [12:44] |
| hverkuil | I'm assuming you'll attend the kernel maintainer summit as well? | [12:45] |
| mchehab | I guess I won't attend this time, but who knows? | [12:45] |
| hverkuil | So if we organize something outside the LPC/KMS then it would be Friday, right?
Sep 13 | [12:45] |
| mchehab | yeah, Sept 13 would be perfect | [12:47] |
| hverkuil | I'll tentatively schedule around that date. | [12:48] |
| mchehab | I'll check if LF can help us reserve a room at the hotel on Sept, 13
and seek for other alternatives it sounds that renting a room won't be too expensive, if that 250 euros is a typical price over there mchehab never rent a room - so I've no idea about how it costs if the room itself is 250 euros, I suspect we would need ~750-1000 euros for the room + wifi + whiteboard + projector + snacks | [12:49] |
| hverkuil | wifi and snacks aren't really necessary. wifi is probably free anyway, snacks/drinks we can arrange ourselves.
whiteboard and projector are the main issue. If necessary I can set up a wifi hotspot on my phone. As long as nobody is going to clone the kernel git repo that should be fine :-) | [12:52] |
| mchehab | :-D | [12:54] |
| sailus | Hello!
Apologies for being around only now. | [12:54] |
| mchehab | one possibility would be to charge for participation... I would prefer avoiding it, though | [12:55] |
| sailus | Regarding a meeting in Lisbon, I might be able to attend, but I'd need to know ASAP.
hverkuil: Which sparse warnings did you refer to? I have a patchset for ImgU sparse warnings fixes but I may not have sent a pull request on the set yet. | [12:55] |
| hverkuil | sailus: https://hverkuil.home.xs4all.nl/logs/Wednesday.log
smatch warnings, not sparse. Sorry. | [12:57] |
| sailus | hverkuil: Ah, those. I think I sent the patches but I definitely have not sent a pull request.
I'll see if I have time today. Probably so. | [12:57] |
| mchehab | none of those appear when I run smatch here (i386)
but I'm not running smatch the right way | [12:57] |
| hverkuil | didn't see any patches, unless you sent them in the last 24 hours (vger.kernel.org is having problems) | [12:58] |
| mchehab | the right way to run smatch is to build a dictionary and run it twice or three times | [12:58] |
| sailus | It may also be I have not yet sent patches. :-) I can't remember. | [12:58] |
| mchehab | and the dict should be re-created once a week
(at least it seems that this is what smatch's author does) vger stopped working at 23:00 on its local time (about 6 hours ago) once it starts sending messages, it should take a while to flush everything I'll let you know if I rear that vger returned to normal service | [12:59] |
| sailus | hverkuil: Sent. | [13:04] |
| mchehab | sailus: it could be possible that you may need to re-send after vger returns - but better to wait for several hours after his return, as it currently has ~100k e-mails pending deliver | [13:08] |
| sailus | I wonder what kind of hardware it has.
If the problem is in the outgoing queue, there may be more than 100k e-mails in there. | [13:10] |
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