[11:26] <mchehab> pinchartl, hverkuil, sailus, javier__: can we finish our MC discussions today?
[11:27] <pinchartl> mchehab: Sakari is away, he will return on Tuesday evening
[11:27] <pinchartl> I'll have time on Monday but not today I'm afraid
[11:31] <mchehab> I guess we should do it then via e-mail
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[11:34] <hverkuil> I have time today and Monday.
[11:37] <pinchartl> hverkuil: have you seen "media: Add type field to struct media_entity" ?
[11:38] <hverkuil> I got it, but didn't read it.
[11:38] <hverkuil> yet
[12:11] <javier__> mchehab: I've also time today and on Monday
[12:13] <javier__> mchehab: for the input connectors discussion, for now I've posted a patch that reverts the DT binding portion for tvp5150 until that is settled
[12:13] <javier__> that was suggested by pinchartl
[12:13] <mchehab> e-mail with the proposal sent
[12:13] <mchehab> it basically returns the discussions to the poing where we stopped on Fri, 12
[12:15] <mchehab> as you all have time on Monday, please review the e-mail. If needed, we can do some discussions on IRC. sailus can also comment the e-mail
[12:15] <mchehab> even not being able to join us on IRC
[12:15] <mchehab> so, we should hopefully have a definition on Tuesday
[12:15] <pinchartl> mchehab: Sakari is abroad, I don't think he'll read his e-mails over the weekend
[12:17] <mchehab> well, as he'll be back on Tuesday, we should still have some feedback from him in time
[12:19] <javier__> mchehab: I believe more important than the input connectors discussion for now is to finish the one about struct media_v2_topology and compat32
[12:20] <javier__> since the ioctl is visible to user-space again so it has to be finished before v4.5
[12:21] <javier__> s/v4.5/v4.6
[12:36] <javier__> well, I don't know if more important but other important question to close
[12:37] <mchehab> javier__: connectors are also visible, even if we postpone G_TOPOLOGY to 4.6
[12:38] <javier__> mchehab: right
[12:39] <mchehab> anyway, doing it via e-mail seems the best way, as we can't find an agenda for IRC meeting that everyone is able to join (and even when we find, some may not be able to join, like what happened this Monday)
[12:40] <_franck__> pinchartl: do you have any work in progress for Xilinx TPG v7.0 ? I had a hard time to get it probed (I'm using it on a PCIe board, on a x86 machine) and now I discover that v7.0 is completely different than previous versions :(
[12:40] <javier__> mchehab: agreed
[12:45] <mchehab> with regards to G_TOPOLOGY, I'll do some tests with an arm64 and x86_64 to check for compat issues
[12:45] <mchehab> today or up to Monday
[12:51] <pinchartl> _franck__: I don't, but I believe Xilinx is working on it
[12:54] <pinchartl> mchehab: I think we're very close to agreeing on "media: Add type field to struct media_entity", it's just naming issues now. could you have a look at Sakari's reply and mine ? I'll then send a v2
[12:55] <_franck__> pinchartl: that would be great to have it tomorrow :) Do you have any contact at Xilinx ? Someone I could ask for updates on this ?
[12:56] <mchehab> pinchartl: sure, I'll read it and answer in a few
[12:59] <_franck__> pinchartl: https://github.com/Xilinx/linux-xlnx/blob/master/drivers/media/platform/xilinx/xilinx-tpg.c#L1147
[12:59] <pinchartl> _franck__: I was about to mention that :-)
[13:21] <mchehab> pinchartl: answer sent
[13:32] <hverkuil> agreed with the comments regarding 'Add type field'. I'm trying to come up with a better name than 'type' which is indeed too generic.
[13:34] <pinchartl> it's really a type though
[13:34] <pinchartl> the fact that we used the name type incorrectly earlier doesn't preclude us from using it correctly now :-)
[13:56] <javier__> mchehab: thanks a lot for the explanation about pad labels and the properties API, is very clear for me now
[13:57] <pinchartl> pad labels ??
[13:57] <pinchartl> why would we need that ?
[13:57] <javier__> pinchartl: s/label/symbolic names
[13:58] <javier__> pinchartl: just to make it easier to describe that a s-video input connector will have a Y and C sink pads
[13:58] <pinchartl> source, not sink
[13:58] <mchehab> pinchartl: it helps humans when looking at the graphs... yet, this is a separate discussion, that we don't need to do right now... as the idea is to do it via properties API
[13:58] <pinchartl> and I'd much rather have well-defined indexes for the pads
[13:59] <pinchartl> good, let's keep it separate then :-)
[13:59] <pinchartl> there's already too much to discuss
[13:59] <mchehab> agreed
[13:59] <mchehab> please se my e-mail... It is focused on what we need
[14:00] <mchehab> and, except for naming, I guess we all agreed with that on the last meeting (or we were very close to)
[14:00] <pinchartl> I don't think we've agreed on the concept of replacing connector entities with input entities
[14:01] <javier__> pinchartl: right, source
[14:01] <mchehab> well, read my e-mail and comment to it with your proposal, then
[14:01] <mchehab> (or to adjustments to it, if you agree with most parts)
[14:02] <pinchartl> I'll read it before Monday
[14:02] <pinchartl> in a meeting now
[14:02] <pinchartl> actually in meeting*s* for the next 7 hours
[14:05] <mchehab> ok
[15:24] <hverkuil> mchehab: do you already know whether you'll be at the ELC?
[15:24] <mchehab> I should likely know later today or on Monday
[15:25] <hverkuil> OK. Let me know as soon as you know. I'd like to book my flight on Monday if possible.
[15:26] <hverkuil> And if you are coming, should we take the Thursday for a meeting or not?
[15:26] <hverkuil> That's really the thing I need to know :-)
[15:32] <pinchartl> hverkuil: I'll have to fly to SFO on Thursday evening at the latest
[15:42] <hverkuil> pinchartl: when do you arrive? I have meetings before the weekend, so I'm in San Diego during the weekend.
[15:43] <hverkuil> lyakh: same question
[15:44] <hverkuil> To be honest, my preference would be to leave Thursday as well.
[15:44] <pinchartl> I'll propably arrive on Saturday, but I'm not sure yet
[15:44] <pinchartl> I'll spend Friday in meetings in Mountain View, hence the deadline for the flight on Thursday
[15:45] <hverkuil> I just want to spend the weekend at home instead of in an airplane :-)
[15:46] <pinchartl> I feel like I live in airplanes, so maybe I should consider that as home :-)
[16:03] <lyakh> hverkuil: I arrive on Sunday late evening
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