mchehab: why is https://git.linuxtv.org/media_tree.git older than https://git.linuxtv.org/media_tree.git/ ? I just got a report about that from a libreelec guy, and that's indeed the case. hverkuil: Ouch - that's nasty :D and so subtle ! hverkuil: do you have any TV model to recommend to test CEC and HDMI 4k ? I don't want anything "smart" :-) pinchartl, good luck finding a dumb 4k TV.... bparrot: I know :-/ I want a large HDMI monitor with CEC support not a TV pinchartl: there aren't. I am not aware of any monitors with CEC (don't ask me why, I don't understand that either). TVs have it, monitors do not. You can get a small 1080p TV with CEC or a small 4k monitor without CEC. Or a big 4k TV with CEC. I'm using one of those. I'd like a large 4k screen with CEC but without Android, Tizen, WebOS or any similar crap I assume it doesn't exist :-/ or a smart TV vendor who not only offers firmware upgrade for their TVs, but also firmware removal :) hverkuil: no idea... just removed the caches they're now identical I suspect cgit get some cache corruption, but no idea why