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[11:36] <hverkuil> svarbanov: are you attending the ELCE?
[11:47] <pinchartl> hverkuil: I'd like to briefly present the result of my experiments with the dim (drm maintainer tools) during the media summit, and discuss how we could apply it in the media subsystem. do you think that would be feasible ?
[11:48] <pinchartl> I know that Sakari would also like to talk about CI, as that's a related topic, maybe we could make a common presentation
[11:48] <hverkuil> pinchartl: how brief is brief? 10-15 minutes is fine, just post an [RFP] to the ML.
[11:49] <hverkuil> The CI topic feels like that falls under the already existing topic for automated test support.
[11:51] <hverkuil> Why are CI and dim related topics? Should both fall under the automated testing topic? I can extend that to an hour instead of 45 minutes.
[11:54] <mripard> pinchartl: do you really want to push dim ? :)
[11:55] <pinchartl> mripard: does that come as a surprise ? :-)
[11:56] <pinchartl> hverkuil: presentation shouldn't be more than 10 minutes, possibly 5, there might be discussions afterwards though
[11:56] <pinchartl> the topics are related because CI and maintainers tools are related
[11:56] <pinchartl> dim in itself isn't a CI tool
[11:57] <pinchartl> but whatever process we end up with, the tooling will have to work hand in hand with CI
[11:57] <pinchartl> we could discuss the two topics separately though
[11:57] <pinchartl> it's true that at this time we have a few steps to take before discussing integration
[12:01] <hverkuil> pinchartl: post an RFP for your topic.
[12:02] <pinchartl> hverkuil: sure
[12:03] <hverkuil> sailus: if you want to discuss CI then that can be done during ezequielg's 'Automated Testing' topic. If you feel that the 45 minutes I've allocated for that is too short, then let me know. If you want to present something, then it's best if you discuss that with ezequielg.
[12:04] <hverkuil> I plan to post the final (?) agenda next Monday.
[12:04] <pinchartl> ezequielg: how long do you think you will need for the presentation part, and how long will we have for discussions ?
[12:17] <hverkuil> mchehab: I can make a pull request with a final set of trivial cleanup patches/fixes this afternoon for 4.20, but only if you have time/are willing to process it. Up to you.
[14:51] <mchehab> hverkuil: feel free do do it
[14:52] <mchehab> I intend to do a final round of merges today
[14:57] <hverkuil> mchehab: OK, I'll prepare a pull request.
[14:58] <mchehab> ok
[15:21] <ezequielg> pinchartl: I don't know yet, but I think it'd be great to include sailus and you, and present everything. the more the merrier.
[15:21] <ezequielg> padovan: ^
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[16:18] <sailus> hverkuil: We'll see. I don't know if I'll have any material yet on the topic.
[16:19] <sailus> But... based on the little research I've done, I'm surprised of how little seems to be available out there, apart from a few options appearing pretty complicated for the task that sounds so simple.
[16:47] <sailus> hverkuil: How about the imx214 driver? :-)
[17:53] <padovan> pinchartl: I'd love to discuss dim! and we are working on kernelci + v4l2 test right now. We want to talk about CI too and how that can ease the development and upstreaming process
[18:15] <hverkuil> Wow, for the first time that I can remember there is not a single media developer among the 'most active 4.19 developers': https://lwn.net/Articles/767635/
[18:16] <hverkuil> 4.19 was apparently a very quite cycle for us.
[18:46] <ezequielg> hverkuil: too much preparation work going on, in several fronts
[19:09] <hverkuil> mchehab: posted fix for vivid: can you consider that for 4.20?
[19:14] <hverkuil> well, it needs to go to 4.20 regardless: it's a nasty hard to find bug.
[20:02] <sailus> padovan: Sounds good!
[20:02] <mchehab> hverkuil: please add a fixes:
[20:02] <sailus> I was looking at different options for doing automated testing, and I came across kernelci as well.
[20:03] <mchehab> with the patch that broke it, back on 4.1 days (from what I understood from your reply)
[20:03] <mchehab> wow. really sutile!
[20:03] <sailus> There seem to be few alternatives. Most CI (and automated testing) frameworks appear to be targetting solving very, very particular problems in a well defined environment. Many even seem to assume a single developer would be using them. I'm surprised.
[20:03] <mchehab> yeah, this should go for 4.20
[20:25] <pinchartl> padovan: note that my plans are to use dim as an example, not necessarily to push for the use of dim as-is. I think it has flaws
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