#linux-media 2024-08-29,Thu

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bemugHey, should my camera sensor driver controls be available through /dev/video0 ? From my understanding /dev/video0 is a video device, not a subdevice, and therefore if I want to access my camera sensor driver control (the subdevice) I have to perform ioctls on /dev/v4l-subdevX
But this is not necessary in RPI, I guess that's unicam magic ? Or do I miss something in my camera sensor driver to inherit subdevice controls ?
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pinchartlthere's support for control inheritance in V4L2
using v4l2_ctrl_add_handler()
but I don't recommend it
and it's not a decision of the sensor driver anyway
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bemugiirc this is something to be done in the isp driver, and that's what unicam does right ? [09:48]
pinchartlI don't see that function called by unicam
at least not upstream
it does in the rpi downstream kernel indeed
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bemugsince this is not recommended it could have been removed from the upstream process
would make sense
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pinchartlI've probably removed it, yes :-) [09:50]
bemugthank you [09:53]
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bemugpinchartl I still have a small the question, in the documentation it looks like the register_subdev() should automatically call add_handler(). Which does not seem to be the behavior we talked about. https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/driver-api/media/v4l2-controls.html#inheriting-sub-device-controls [10:01]
pinchartloh
pinchartl checks
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pinchartlonly if the v4l2_device has a ctrl_handler set
only 3 video capture drivers do so
and 5 radio drivers
I don't think that's recommended anymore either
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bemugOk I though it was automatically called by the register_subdev() by the code, but it looks more like a (outdated) guideline for drivers if I understand correctly [10:10]
hverkuilIt's still recommended for drivers using a standard simple video pipeline. Lots of drivers set it: git grep v4l2_dev.*ctrl_handler
You don't notice because you don't work on such drivers :-)
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bemugExactly :) Thank you [10:13]
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pinchartlhverkuil: ah indeed I missed the drivers that use v4l2_dev.ctrl_handler, I only grepped for v4l2_dev->ctrl_handler
I wouldn't expect many new drivers to do that
do we get new submissions for PCI capture cards these days ?
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hverkuilVery rarely. Same for usb. [12:02]
pinchartlI suppose TV isn't as big as it used to be [12:03]
hverkuilIt's a shame, really. I'd love to have a good quality HDMI 4k capture USB or PCIe card. I.e. one that doesn't act like a UVC camera :-) [12:04]
pinchartlmaybe cisco should make one ? :-) [12:06]
hverkuilWe did for internal use (1080p only). The driver is actually in mainline: the cobalt driver. I still use it once in a while.
Sadly, we never made a 4k version :-(
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pinchartlah, I didn't know the cobalt driver came from that, nice [12:11]
hverkuilMost of the general HDMI V4L2 support was developed using that hardware. [12:11]
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