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Attempting to clone https://git.linuxtv.org/media.git seems to hang. [20:52] <smlavine> oop, never mind. It's going now. Just took a /really/ long time to enumerate/count the objects. :) [21:07] *** Ampera has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [21:07] *** Ampera has joined #linux-media [21:08] *** dcz has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [21:19] <ndufresne> pinchartl: I was checking the downstream rk3588 camera driver, am I correct to think that its unusable to have 2 media graph while the second (ISP) has inline input from the first (CIF/VICAP) ? [21:19] <ndufresne> * unusual [21:50] <pinchartl> ndufresne: all the pieces that can be connected at the hardware level should be in the same media graph [21:50] <pinchartl> I haven't checked what the downstream drivers do, but it's common for vendors to take shortcuts and not do things right [21:58] <ndufresne> Well, can't blame them if there is no graph merging capabilities yet [22:06] <ndufresne> pinchartl: one thing that struck me when starting to look, is that the ISP daemon that does the 3A call into rknn driver, so I bet there is no algorithm to reverse there [22:15] *** tmerciai1 has joined #linux-media [22:39] <pinchartl> of course we can blame them [22:39] <pinchartl> new features are developed by the people who need them [22:39] <pinchartl> they could do things right if they wanted [22:39] <pinchartl> I'm not blaming them *much* [22:40] <pinchartl> but I don't agree with saying they have no choice because the feature isn't implemented [22:40] <pinchartl> new hardware drives new features [22:40] <pinchartl> and what do you mean by no algorithm to reverse ? 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