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[linux-dvb] Re: satellite newbie in the US looking for set up DVB on linux
- To: "Holger Waechtler" <holger@convergence.de>,"Jack Thomasson" <jkt@Helius.COM>
- Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: satellite newbie in the US looking for set up DVB on linux
- From: "Michael Glaum" <mglaum@kvh.com>
- Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 09:16:32 -0400
- Cc: <linux-dvb@linuxtv.org>
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MG> Really, I don't think anybody is doing LinuxDVB on
MG> North America birds. There are several FTA DVB birds
MG> (Telstar 5?) I think but I haven't heard too much noise
MG> on the maillist.
JT> mostly we're seeing commercial DVB/IP applications. globecast has up
JT> some foreign video on T5 at 11.874 and 12.123. i don't know what else
JT> is out there.
HW> while we're talking about the US modes, is anybody of you aware of the
HW> transmit modes they use in the US for DirecTV and DSS? From the public
HW> frontend ducumentation spec sheets I've seen that DSS uses basically a
HW> similiar MPEG packet format but 130 bytes packet length. Most modern
HW> frontends even can transparently handle both DVB and DSS.
HW> Would it make sense to add these modes to the LinuxDVB API so that the
HW> same applications can at the end work everywhere all over the world?
Considering DTV's legal action against card hackers, trying to
reverse engineer the actual RF would be a big mistake.
Perhaps, however, HNS might be receptive to a LinuxDVB client for
the DirecPC service. I asked a former HNS employee that question.
He doubted we could reverse engineer the stream.
While it is true that the Windohs install of DPC drivers give you
the keys for your data, who knows what else HNS did to encode the
data. Probably nobody ever pumped the RF into a modem to see what
showed up and how it compared to rekeyed data.
DVB-IP EU maillist readers might be interested in the flipping
though the SourceForge direcpc project. That being said I understood
that when you sign up for DPC service you agree to only use HNS
client software. Probably likewise with HNS hardware. There have
also been court cases over DPC reverse engineering stunts.
Bell ExpressVu uses runs a DirecPC service but I think they use
DVB framing instead of DSS.
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