Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
- Explain current merging process (Mauro) - Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro) - Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, etc. (Hans Verkuil) - V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil) - TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat - dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test (Mauro/Samsung) - Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is needed) - Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung, only if time is available)
For those whose name is behind a topic: please prepare something before the meeting.
We have currently 17 or 18 attendees of a maximum of 25, so there is room for a few more people.
Regards,
Hans
Hello,
On Monday 22 October 2012 10:35:56 Hans Verkuil wrote:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
Thank you Hans for taking care of the agenda.
- Explain current merging process (Mauro)
- Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
- Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance,
etc. (Hans Verkuil)
- V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
- TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
- dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test (Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is needed)
- Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung,
only if time is available)
This last topic will likely require lots of brainstorming, and thus time. If the schedule permits, would anyone be interested in meeting earlier during the week already ?
For those whose name is behind a topic: please prepare something before the meeting.
We have currently 17 or 18 attendees of a maximum of 25, so there is room for a few more people.
Hi Laurent,
On 10/22/2012 12:39 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
Hello,
On Monday 22 October 2012 10:35:56 Hans Verkuil wrote:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
Thank you Hans for taking care of the agenda.
- Explain current merging process (Mauro)
- Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
- Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance,
etc. (Hans Verkuil)
- V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
- TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
- dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test (Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is needed)
- Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung,
only if time is available)
This last topic will likely require lots of brainstorming, and thus time. If the schedule permits, would anyone be interested in meeting earlier during the week already ?
My intention was to also possibly discuss it with others before the actual media workshop. Would be nice if we could have arranged such a meeting. I'm not sure about the room conditions though. It's probably not a big issue, unless there is really many people interested in that topic.
-- Regards, Sylwester
Hi all,
Could someone summaries very rapidly what is this create/select context stuff ? For now I do not plan to be in Barcelona more than 1 day but at the same time don't want to miss something that might be useful for us.
Regards,
Alain
-----Original Message----- From: media-workshop-bounces@linuxtv.org [mailto:media-workshop- bounces@linuxtv.org] On Behalf Of Sylwester Nawrocki Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:53 PM To: Laurent Pinchart Cc: media-workshop@linuxtv.org; linux-media Subject: Re: [media-workshop] Tentative Agenda for the November workshop
Hi Laurent,
On 10/22/2012 12:39 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
Hello,
On Monday 22 October 2012 10:35:56 Hans Verkuil wrote:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8,
If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
Thank you Hans for taking care of the agenda.
- Explain current merging process (Mauro)
- Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
- Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers,
both for
staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, etc. (Hans Verkuil)
- V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
- TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
- dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test
(Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is
needed)
- Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this
(Samsung, only if time is available)
This last topic will likely require lots of brainstorming, and thus time. If the schedule permits, would anyone be interested in meeting earlier during the week already ?
My intention was to also possibly discuss it with others before the actual media workshop. Would be nice if we could have arranged such a meeting. I'm not sure about the room conditions though. It's probably not a big issue, unless there is really many people interested in that topic.
-- Regards, Sylwester
media-workshop mailing list media-workshop@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/media-workshop
Hi,
On 10/22/2012 12:57 PM, Alain VOLMAT wrote:
Hi all,
Could someone summaries very rapidly what is this create/select context stuff ? For now I do not plan to be in Barcelona more than 1 day but at the same time don't want to miss something that might be useful for us.
Please see this thread for more details: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-media@vger.kernel.org/msg52168.html
This is about creating, selecting device configuration contexts and handling e.g. camera modes like viewfinder and still capture. Currently only mem-to-mem devices in V4L2 API are allowed to support multiple device contexts, and those are per file handle.
I hope this clarifies it a bit for you.
-- Regards, Sylwester
Hi Sylwester,
On Monday 22 October 2012 12:53:02 Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
On 10/22/2012 12:39 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Monday 22 October 2012 10:35:56 Hans Verkuil wrote:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
Thank you Hans for taking care of the agenda.
- Explain current merging process (Mauro)
- Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
- Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both
for
staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance,
etc. (Hans Verkuil)
- V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
- TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
- dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test (Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is
needed) - Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung, only if time is available)
This last topic will likely require lots of brainstorming, and thus time. If the schedule permits, would anyone be interested in meeting earlier during the week already ?
My intention was to also possibly discuss it with others before the actual media workshop. Would be nice if we could have arranged such a meeting. I'm not sure about the room conditions though. It's probably not a big issue, unless there is really many people interested in that topic.
A small room with a projector would be nice if possible, although not required. Who would be interested in attending a brainstorming session on contexts ?
On Mon October 22 2012 13:18:46 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
Hi Sylwester,
On Monday 22 October 2012 12:53:02 Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
On 10/22/2012 12:39 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Monday 22 October 2012 10:35:56 Hans Verkuil wrote:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
Thank you Hans for taking care of the agenda.
- Explain current merging process (Mauro)
- Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
- Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both
for
staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance,
etc. (Hans Verkuil)
- V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
- TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
- dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test (Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is
needed) - Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung, only if time is available)
This last topic will likely require lots of brainstorming, and thus time. If the schedule permits, would anyone be interested in meeting earlier during the week already ?
My intention was to also possibly discuss it with others before the actual media workshop. Would be nice if we could have arranged such a meeting. I'm not sure about the room conditions though. It's probably not a big issue, unless there is really many people interested in that topic.
A small room with a projector would be nice if possible, although not required. Who would be interested in attending a brainstorming session on contexts ?
I would be, but the problem is that the conference is also interesting. The only day I have really available is the Friday *after* the summit.
Regards,
Hans
On Monday 22 October 2012 14:06:06 Hans Verkuil wrote:
On Mon October 22 2012 13:18:46 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Monday 22 October 2012 12:53:02 Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
On 10/22/2012 12:39 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Monday 22 October 2012 10:35:56 Hans Verkuil wrote:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
Thank you Hans for taking care of the agenda.
- Explain current merging process (Mauro)
- Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
- Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance,
etc. (Hans Verkuil)
- V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
- TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
- dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test
(Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is
needed) - Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung, only if time is available)
This last topic will likely require lots of brainstorming, and thus time. If the schedule permits, would anyone be interested in meeting earlier during the week already ?
My intention was to also possibly discuss it with others before the actual media workshop. Would be nice if we could have arranged such a meeting. I'm not sure about the room conditions though. It's probably not a big issue, unless there is really many people interested in that topic.
A small room with a projector would be nice if possible, although not required. Who would be interested in attending a brainstorming session on contexts ?
I would be, but the problem is that the conference is also interesting.
More interesting than a brainstorming session about hardware contexts ? ;-) There's of course talks I want to attend, but I can probably skip some of them.
The only day I have really available is the Friday *after* the summit.
We'll probably need several brainstorming sessions anyway. I'd like to organize one before the media summit though, as we'll have limited time to discuss the topic during the summit, which doesn't suit brainstorming sessions very well.
On Tue October 23 2012 03:03:35 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Monday 22 October 2012 14:06:06 Hans Verkuil wrote:
On Mon October 22 2012 13:18:46 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Monday 22 October 2012 12:53:02 Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
On 10/22/2012 12:39 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Monday 22 October 2012 10:35:56 Hans Verkuil wrote:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
Thank you Hans for taking care of the agenda.
- Explain current merging process (Mauro)
- Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
- Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance,
etc. (Hans Verkuil)
- V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
- TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
- dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test
(Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is
needed) - Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung, only if time is available)
This last topic will likely require lots of brainstorming, and thus time. If the schedule permits, would anyone be interested in meeting earlier during the week already ?
My intention was to also possibly discuss it with others before the actual media workshop. Would be nice if we could have arranged such a meeting. I'm not sure about the room conditions though. It's probably not a big issue, unless there is really many people interested in that topic.
A small room with a projector would be nice if possible, although not required. Who would be interested in attending a brainstorming session on contexts ?
I would be, but the problem is that the conference is also interesting.
More interesting than a brainstorming session about hardware contexts ? ;-) There's of course talks I want to attend, but I can probably skip some of them.
The only day I have really available is the Friday *after* the summit.
We'll probably need several brainstorming sessions anyway. I'd like to organize one before the media summit though, as we'll have limited time to discuss the topic during the summit, which doesn't suit brainstorming sessions very well.
Sylwester, would Samsung be able to prepare for a brainstorming session on Monday or Tuesday? Both Laurent and myself have presentations on Wednesday, so that's not the best day for such a session.
Do you think we should do a half-day or a full day session on this?
Regards,
Hans
Hi Hans,
On Tuesday 23 October 2012 08:46:21 Hans Verkuil wrote:
On Tue October 23 2012 03:03:35 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Monday 22 October 2012 14:06:06 Hans Verkuil wrote:
On Mon October 22 2012 13:18:46 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Monday 22 October 2012 12:53:02 Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
On 10/22/2012 12:39 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Monday 22 October 2012 10:35:56 Hans Verkuil wrote: > Hi all, > > This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November > 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, > or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me > know so I can update the list.
Thank you Hans for taking care of the agenda.
> - Explain current merging process (Mauro) > - Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro) > - Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) > drivers, both for staging and mainline acceptance: which > frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, etc. (Hans Verkuil) > - V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil) > - TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat > - dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test > (Mauro/Samsung) > - Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic > is needed) - Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that > supports this (Samsung, only if time is available)
This last topic will likely require lots of brainstorming, and thus time. If the schedule permits, would anyone be interested in meeting earlier during the week already ?
My intention was to also possibly discuss it with others before the actual media workshop. Would be nice if we could have arranged such a meeting. I'm not sure about the room conditions though. It's probably not a big issue, unless there is really many people interested in that topic.
A small room with a projector would be nice if possible, although not required. Who would be interested in attending a brainstorming session on contexts ?
I would be, but the problem is that the conference is also interesting.
More interesting than a brainstorming session about hardware contexts ? ;-) There's of course talks I want to attend, but I can probably skip some of them.
The only day I have really available is the Friday *after* the summit.
We'll probably need several brainstorming sessions anyway. I'd like to organize one before the media summit though, as we'll have limited time to discuss the topic during the summit, which doesn't suit brainstorming sessions very well.
Sylwester, would Samsung be able to prepare for a brainstorming session on Monday or Tuesday? Both Laurent and myself have presentations on Wednesday, so that's not the best day for such a session.
Do you think we should do a half-day or a full day session on this?
Half a day should be more than enough to start with. The topic is quite complex, and we'll need to sleep over it, several times. A full day would just result in brain overheat. I was thinking more in the line of starting our thought process, so maybe twice an hour or two hours would be good. That would allow us to attend the ELCE talks as well :-) (there's definitely a couple of them that I would like to listen to).
Hi Hans, Laurent,
On 10/23/2012 12:22 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Tuesday 23 October 2012 08:46:21 Hans Verkuil wrote:
On Tue October 23 2012 03:03:35 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Monday 22 October 2012 14:06:06 Hans Verkuil wrote:
On Mon October 22 2012 13:18:46 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Monday 22 October 2012 12:53:02 Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
On 10/22/2012 12:39 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > On Monday 22 October 2012 10:35:56 Hans Verkuil wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November >> 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, >> or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me >> know so I can update the list. > > Thank you Hans for taking care of the agenda. > >> - Explain current merging process (Mauro) >> - Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro) >> - Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) >> drivers, both for staging and mainline acceptance: which >> frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, etc. (Hans Verkuil) >> - V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil) >> - TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat >> - dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test >> (Mauro/Samsung) >> - Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic >> is needed) - Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that >> supports this (Samsung, only if time is available) > > This last topic will likely require lots of brainstorming, and > thus time. If the schedule permits, would anyone be interested in > meeting earlier during the week already ?
My intention was to also possibly discuss it with others before the actual media workshop. Would be nice if we could have arranged such a meeting. I'm not sure about the room conditions though. It's probably not a big issue, unless there is really many people interested in that topic.
A small room with a projector would be nice if possible, although not required. Who would be interested in attending a brainstorming session on contexts ?
I would be, but the problem is that the conference is also interesting.
More interesting than a brainstorming session about hardware contexts ? ;-) There's of course talks I want to attend, but I can probably skip some of them.
The only day I have really available is the Friday *after* the summit.
We'll probably need several brainstorming sessions anyway. I'd like to organize one before the media summit though, as we'll have limited time to discuss the topic during the summit, which doesn't suit brainstorming sessions very well.
Sylwester, would Samsung be able to prepare for a brainstorming session on Monday or Tuesday? Both Laurent and myself have presentations on Wednesday, so that's not the best day for such a session.
Kamil has presentation on Tuesday so there would be only Monday left.
Do you think we should do a half-day or a full day session on this?
Half a day should be more than enough to start with. The topic is quite complex, and we'll need to sleep over it, several times. A full day would just result in brain overheat. I was thinking more in the line of starting our thought process, so maybe twice an hour or two hours would be good. That would allow us to attend the ELCE talks as well :-) (there's definitely a couple of them that I would like to listen to).
I agree, I wouldn't like to loose whole day of the conference for that as well. One, two hours for the starters could be sufficient. So we can possibly agree on some initial idea and could get back to it later. I don't think I have already material for a full day session.
--
Regards, Sylwester
Hi Sylwester,
On Tuesday 23 October 2012 13:59:01 Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
On 10/23/2012 12:22 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Tuesday 23 October 2012 08:46:21 Hans Verkuil wrote:
On Tue October 23 2012 03:03:35 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Monday 22 October 2012 14:06:06 Hans Verkuil wrote:
On Mon October 22 2012 13:18:46 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Monday 22 October 2012 12:53:02 Sylwester Nawrocki wrote: > On 10/22/2012 12:39 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote: >> On Monday 22 October 2012 10:35:56 Hans Verkuil wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November >>> 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, >>> or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me >>> know so I can update the list. >> >> Thank you Hans for taking care of the agenda. >> >>> - Explain current merging process (Mauro) >>> - Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro) >>> - Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) >>> >>> drivers, both for staging and mainline acceptance: which >>> frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, etc. (Hans Verkuil) >>> >>> - V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil) >>> - TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat >>> - dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test >>> >>> (Mauro/Samsung) >>> >>> - Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic >>> >>> is needed) - Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that >>> supports this (Samsung, only if time is available) >> >> This last topic will likely require lots of brainstorming, and >> thus time. If the schedule permits, would anyone be interested in >> meeting earlier during the week already ? > > My intention was to also possibly discuss it with others before the > actual media workshop. Would be nice if we could have arranged such > a meeting. I'm not sure about the room conditions though. It's > probably not a big issue, unless there is really many people > interested in that topic.
A small room with a projector would be nice if possible, although not required. Who would be interested in attending a brainstorming session on contexts ?
I would be, but the problem is that the conference is also interesting.
More interesting than a brainstorming session about hardware contexts ? ;-) There's of course talks I want to attend, but I can probably skip some of them.
The only day I have really available is the Friday *after* the summit.
We'll probably need several brainstorming sessions anyway. I'd like to organize one before the media summit though, as we'll have limited time to discuss the topic during the summit, which doesn't suit brainstorming sessions very well.
Sylwester, would Samsung be able to prepare for a brainstorming session on Monday or Tuesday? Both Laurent and myself have presentations on Wednesday, so that's not the best day for such a session.
Kamil has presentation on Tuesday so there would be only Monday left.
Do you think we should do a half-day or a full day session on this?
Half a day should be more than enough to start with. The topic is quite complex, and we'll need to sleep over it, several times. A full day would just result in brain overheat. I was thinking more in the line of starting our thought process, so maybe twice an hour or two hours would be good. That would allow us to attend the ELCE talks as well :-) (there's definitely a couple of them that I would like to listen to).
I agree, I wouldn't like to loose whole day of the conference for that as well. One, two hours for the starters could be sufficient. So we can possibly agree on some initial idea and could get back to it later. I don't think I have already material for a full day session.
One hour, possibly twice, would have my preference. That shouldn't be too difficult to organize. When will you and Kamil arrive ?
Hi Laurent,
On 10/25/2012 12:42 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
Sylwester, would Samsung be able to prepare for a brainstorming session on Monday or Tuesday? Both Laurent and myself have presentations on Wednesday, so that's not the best day for such a session.
Kamil has presentation on Tuesday so there would be only Monday left.
Do you think we should do a half-day or a full day session on this?
Half a day should be more than enough to start with. The topic is quite complex, and we'll need to sleep over it, several times. A full day would just result in brain overheat. I was thinking more in the line of starting our thought process, so maybe twice an hour or two hours would be good. That would allow us to attend the ELCE talks as well :-) (there's definitely a couple of them that I would like to listen to).
I agree, I wouldn't like to loose whole day of the conference for that as well. One, two hours for the starters could be sufficient. So we can possibly agree on some initial idea and could get back to it later. I don't think I have already material for a full day session.
One hour, possibly twice, would have my preference. That shouldn't be too difficult to organize. When will you and Kamil arrive ?
Sounds good to me. We'll arrive on Sunday afternoon, and staying until next Sunday.
--
Regards, Sylwester
On Thu October 25 2012 10:43:59 Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
Hi Laurent,
On 10/25/2012 12:42 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
Sylwester, would Samsung be able to prepare for a brainstorming session on Monday or Tuesday? Both Laurent and myself have presentations on Wednesday, so that's not the best day for such a session.
Kamil has presentation on Tuesday so there would be only Monday left.
Do you think we should do a half-day or a full day session on this?
Half a day should be more than enough to start with. The topic is quite complex, and we'll need to sleep over it, several times. A full day would just result in brain overheat. I was thinking more in the line of starting our thought process, so maybe twice an hour or two hours would be good. That would allow us to attend the ELCE talks as well :-) (there's definitely a couple of them that I would like to listen to).
I agree, I wouldn't like to loose whole day of the conference for that as well. One, two hours for the starters could be sufficient. So we can possibly agree on some initial idea and could get back to it later. I don't think I have already material for a full day session.
One hour, possibly twice, would have my preference. That shouldn't be too difficult to organize. When will you and Kamil arrive ?
Sounds good to me. We'll arrive on Sunday afternoon, and staying until next Sunday.
I've tried to get a small room for Monday, but they were all gone, so we will have to find some other place in the hotel.
Regards,
Hans
Hi Laurent
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
Hi Sylwester,
On Monday 22 October 2012 12:53:02 Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
On 10/22/2012 12:39 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Monday 22 October 2012 10:35:56 Hans Verkuil wrote:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
Thank you Hans for taking care of the agenda.
- Explain current merging process (Mauro)
- Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
- Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both
for
staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance,
etc. (Hans Verkuil)
- V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
- TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
- dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test (Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is
needed) - Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung, only if time is available)
This last topic will likely require lots of brainstorming, and thus time. If the schedule permits, would anyone be interested in meeting earlier during the week already ?
My intention was to also possibly discuss it with others before the actual media workshop. Would be nice if we could have arranged such a meeting. I'm not sure about the room conditions though. It's probably not a big issue, unless there is really many people interested in that topic.
A small room with a projector would be nice if possible, although not required. Who would be interested in attending a brainstorming session on contexts ?
I'd also be interested to participate.
Thanks Guennadi --- Guennadi Liakhovetski, Ph.D. Freelance Open-Source Software Developer http://www.open-technology.de/
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Hans Verkuil wrote:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
- Explain current merging process (Mauro)
- Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
- Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, etc. (Hans Verkuil)
- V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
- TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
- dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test (Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is needed)
+ asynchronous probing, I guess. It's probably implicitly included though.
Thanks Guennadi
- Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung, only if time is available)
For those whose name is behind a topic: please prepare something before the meeting.
We have currently 17 or 18 attendees of a maximum of 25, so there is room for a few more people.
Regards,
Hans
media-workshop mailing list media-workshop@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/media-workshop
--- Guennadi Liakhovetski, Ph.D. Freelance Open-Source Software Developer http://www.open-technology.de/
Hi all
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Hans Verkuil wrote:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
- Explain current merging process (Mauro)
- Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
- Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, etc. (Hans Verkuil)
- V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
- TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
- dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test (Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is needed)
- asynchronous probing, I guess. It's probably implicitly included though.
As the meeting approaches, it would be good to have a decision - do we want to discuss DT / async or not? My flights this time are not quite long enough to prepare for the discussion on them;-)
Thanks Guennadi
- Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung, only if time is available)
For those whose name is behind a topic: please prepare something before the meeting.
We have currently 17 or 18 attendees of a maximum of 25, so there is room for a few more people.
Regards,
Hans
media-workshop mailing list media-workshop@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/media-workshop
Guennadi Liakhovetski, Ph.D. Freelance Open-Source Software Developer http://www.open-technology.de/
--- Guennadi Liakhovetski, Ph.D. Freelance Open-Source Software Developer http://www.open-technology.de/
On Wed October 31 2012 14:12:05 Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
Hi all
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Hans Verkuil wrote:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
- Explain current merging process (Mauro)
- Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
- Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, etc. (Hans Verkuil)
- V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
- TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
- dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test (Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is needed)
- asynchronous probing, I guess. It's probably implicitly included though.
As the meeting approaches, it would be good to have a decision - do we want to discuss DT / async or not? My flights this time are not quite long enough to prepare for the discussion on them;-)
Looking at the current discussions I think discussing possible async solutions would be very useful. The DT implementation itself seems to be OK, at least I haven't seen any big discussions regarding that.
Regards,
Hans
On Thursday 01 November 2012 17:01:02 Hans Verkuil wrote:
On Wed October 31 2012 14:12:05 Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Hans Verkuil wrote:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
Explain current merging process (Mauro)
Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, etc. (Hans Verkuil)
V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test
(Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is
needed)
- asynchronous probing, I guess. It's probably implicitly included
though.
As the meeting approaches, it would be good to have a decision - do we want to discuss DT / async or not? My flights this time are not quite long enough to prepare for the discussion on them;-)
Looking at the current discussions I think discussing possible async solutions would be very useful. The DT implementation itself seems to be OK, at least I haven't seen any big discussions regarding that.
Agreed.
On 11/01/2012 05:05 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Thursday 01 November 2012 17:01:02 Hans Verkuil wrote:
On Wed October 31 2012 14:12:05 Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Hans Verkuil wrote:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
Explain current merging process (Mauro)
Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, etc. (Hans Verkuil)
V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test
(Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is
needed)
- asynchronous probing, I guess. It's probably implicitly included
though.
As the meeting approaches, it would be good to have a decision - do we want to discuss DT / async or not? My flights this time are not quite long enough to prepare for the discussion on them;-)
Looking at the current discussions I think discussing possible async solutions would be very useful. The DT implementation itself seems to be OK, at least I haven't seen any big discussions regarding that.
Agreed.
That was my impression too, the bindings itself look fine in general. At least basic features of hardware are now covered, the not very common ones might be easily covered later when needed.
I did an initial implementation for the s5p-fimc driver, with an I2C/SPI sensor subdev, based on current DT bindings and the (slightly modified) v4l2-of helpers. Relying only on the deferred probing mechanism and not using the notifiers.
It's relatively simple and works without that much changes comparing to the previous non-dt version. Still there are possible races when subdevs are loadable modules. However, the non-dt version has also problems in this respect, as I misinterpreted in the past the get_driver()/put_driver() functions [1]. So that needs to get fixed somehow to make the modules usage reliable.
-- Regards, Sylwester
[1] http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git;a=commitdi...
Hi Hans,
Em Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:35:56 +0200 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
Thank you for taking care of it.
- Explain current merging process (Mauro)
- Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
- Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, etc. (Hans Verkuil)
- V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
- TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
- dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test (Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is needed)
- Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung, only if time is available)
I have an extra theme for discussions there: what should we do with the drivers that don't have any MAINTAINERS entry.
It probably makes sense to mark them as "Orphan" (or, at least, have some criteria to mark them as such). Perhaps before doing that, we could try to see if are there any developer at the community with time and patience to handle them.
This could of course be handled as part of the discussions about how to improve the merge process, but I suspect that this could generate enough discussions to be handled as a separate theme.
There are some issues by not having a MAINTAINERS entry: - patches may not flow into the driver maintainer; - patches will likely be applied without tests/reviews or may stay for a long time queued; - ./scripts/get_maintainer.pl at --no-git-fallback won't return any maintainer[1].
[1] Letting get_maintainer.pl is very time/CPU consuming. Letting it would delay a lot the patch review process, if applied for every patch, with unreliable and doubtful results. I don't do it, due to the large volume of patches, and because the 'other' results aren't typically the driver maintainer.
An example of this is the results for a patch I just applied (changeset 2866aed103b915ca8ba0ff76d5790caea4e62ced):
$ git show --pretty=email|./scripts/get_maintainer.pl Mauro Carvalho Chehab mchehab@infradead.org (maintainer:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...,commit_signer:7/7=100%) Hans Verkuil hans.verkuil@cisco.com (commit_signer:4/7=57%) Anatolij Gustschin agust@denx.de (commit_signer:1/7=14%) Wei Yongjun yongjun_wei@trendmicro.com.cn (commit_signer:1/7=14%) Hans de Goede hdegoede@redhat.com (commit_signer:1/7=14%) linux-media@vger.kernel.org (open list:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...) linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (open list)
According with this driver's copyrights:
* Copyright 2008-2010 Freescale Semiconductor, Inc. All Rights Reserved. * * Freescale VIU video driver * * Authors: Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com * Porting to 2.6.35 by DENX Software Engineering, * Anatolij Gustschin agust@denx.de
The driver author (Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com) was not even shown there, and the co-author got only 15% hit, while I got 100% and Hans got 57%.
This happens not only to this driver. In a matter of fact, on most cases where no MAINTAINERS entry exist, the driver's author gets a very small hit chance, as, on several of those drivers, the author doesn't post anything else but the initial patch series.
Regards, Mauro
Bah - my flight back is on the 8th ... I'll see if I can change it to the 9th to actually join in on this ...
-- Regards
Kieran
On 25 October 2012 18:27, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mchehab@redhat.com wrote:
Hi Hans,
Em Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:35:56 +0200 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is
wrong
or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
Thank you for taking care of it.
- Explain current merging process (Mauro)
- Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
- Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both
for
staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use,
v4l2-compliance,
etc. (Hans Verkuil)
- V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
- TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
- dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test (Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is
needed)
- Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung,
only
if time is available)
I have an extra theme for discussions there: what should we do with the drivers that don't have any MAINTAINERS entry.
It probably makes sense to mark them as "Orphan" (or, at least, have some criteria to mark them as such). Perhaps before doing that, we could try to see if are there any developer at the community with time and patience to handle them.
This could of course be handled as part of the discussions about how to improve the merge process, but I suspect that this could generate enough discussions to be handled as a separate theme.
There are some issues by not having a MAINTAINERS entry: - patches may not flow into the driver maintainer; - patches will likely be applied without tests/reviews or may stay for a long time queued; - ./scripts/get_maintainer.pl at --no-git-fallback won't return any maintainer[1].
[1] Letting get_maintainer.pl is very time/CPU consuming. Letting it would delay a lot the patch review process, if applied for every patch, with unreliable and doubtful results. I don't do it, due to the large volume of patches, and because the 'other' results aren't typically the driver maintainer.
An example of this is the results for a patch I just applied (changeset 2866aed103b915ca8ba0ff76d5790caea4e62ced):
$ git show --pretty=email|./scripts/get_maintainer.pl Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org> (maintainer:MEDIA
INPUT INFRA...,commit_signer:7/7=100%) Hans Verkuil hans.verkuil@cisco.com (commit_signer:4/7=57%) Anatolij Gustschin agust@denx.de (commit_signer:1/7=14%) Wei Yongjun yongjun_wei@trendmicro.com.cn (commit_signer:1/7=14%) Hans de Goede hdegoede@redhat.com (commit_signer:1/7=14%) linux-media@vger.kernel.org (open list:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...) linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (open list)
According with this driver's copyrights:
- Copyright 2008-2010 Freescale Semiconductor, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
- Freescale VIU video driver
- Authors: Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com
Porting to 2.6.35 by DENX Software Engineering,
Anatolij Gustschin <agust@denx.de>
The driver author (Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com) was not even shown there, and the co-author got only 15% hit, while I got 100% and Hans got 57%.
This happens not only to this driver. In a matter of fact, on most cases where no MAINTAINERS entry exist, the driver's author gets a very small hit chance, as, on several of those drivers, the author doesn't post anything else but the initial patch series.
Regards, Mauro -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
On Thu October 25 2012 19:27:01 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Hi Hans,
Em Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:35:56 +0200 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
Thank you for taking care of it.
- Explain current merging process (Mauro)
- Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
- Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, etc. (Hans Verkuil)
- V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
- TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
- dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test (Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is needed)
- Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung, only if time is available)
I have an extra theme for discussions there: what should we do with the drivers that don't have any MAINTAINERS entry.
I've added this topic to the list.
It probably makes sense to mark them as "Orphan" (or, at least, have some criteria to mark them as such). Perhaps before doing that, we could try to see if are there any developer at the community with time and patience to handle them.
This could of course be handled as part of the discussions about how to improve the merge process, but I suspect that this could generate enough discussions to be handled as a separate theme.
Do we have a 'Maintainer-Light' category? I have a lot of hardware that I can test. So while I wouldn't like to be marked as 'The Maintainer of driver X' (since I simply don't have the time for that), I wouldn't mind being marked as someone who can at least test patches if needed.
There are some issues by not having a MAINTAINERS entry:
- patches may not flow into the driver maintainer;
- patches will likely be applied without tests/reviews or may stay for a long time queued;
- ./scripts/get_maintainer.pl at --no-git-fallback won't return any maintainer[1].
[1] Letting get_maintainer.pl is very time/CPU consuming. Letting it would delay a lot the patch review process, if applied for every patch, with unreliable and doubtful results. I don't do it, due to the large volume of patches, and because the 'other' results aren't typically the driver maintainer.
An example of this is the results for a patch I just applied (changeset 2866aed103b915ca8ba0ff76d5790caea4e62ced):
$ git show --pretty=email|./scripts/get_maintainer.pl Mauro Carvalho Chehab mchehab@infradead.org (maintainer:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...,commit_signer:7/7=100%) Hans Verkuil hans.verkuil@cisco.com (commit_signer:4/7=57%) Anatolij Gustschin agust@denx.de (commit_signer:1/7=14%) Wei Yongjun yongjun_wei@trendmicro.com.cn (commit_signer:1/7=14%) Hans de Goede hdegoede@redhat.com (commit_signer:1/7=14%) linux-media@vger.kernel.org (open list:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...) linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (open list)
According with this driver's copyrights:
- Copyright 2008-2010 Freescale Semiconductor, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
- Freescale VIU video driver
- Authors: Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com
Porting to 2.6.35 by DENX Software Engineering,
Anatolij Gustschin <agust@denx.de>
The driver author (Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com) was not even shown there, and the co-author got only 15% hit, while I got 100% and Hans got 57%.
This happens not only to this driver. In a matter of fact, on most cases where no MAINTAINERS entry exist, the driver's author gets a very small hit chance, as, on several of those drivers, the author doesn't post anything else but the initial patch series.
We probably need to have an entry for all the media drivers, even if it just points to the linux-media mailinglist as being the 'collective default maintainer'.
A MAINTAINERS entry should probably be required as well for new drivers.
Regards,
Hans
Em Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:44:50 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
On Thu October 25 2012 19:27:01 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Hi Hans,
Em Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:35:56 +0200 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
Thank you for taking care of it.
- Explain current merging process (Mauro)
- Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
- Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, etc. (Hans Verkuil)
- V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
- TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
- dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test (Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is needed)
- Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung, only if time is available)
I have an extra theme for discussions there: what should we do with the drivers that don't have any MAINTAINERS entry.
I've added this topic to the list.
Thanks!
It probably makes sense to mark them as "Orphan" (or, at least, have some criteria to mark them as such). Perhaps before doing that, we could try to see if are there any developer at the community with time and patience to handle them.
This could of course be handled as part of the discussions about how to improve the merge process, but I suspect that this could generate enough discussions to be handled as a separate theme.
Do we have a 'Maintainer-Light' category? I have a lot of hardware that I can test. So while I wouldn't like to be marked as 'The Maintainer of driver X' (since I simply don't have the time for that), I wouldn't mind being marked as someone who can at least test patches if needed.
There are several "maintainance" status there:
S: Status, one of the following: Supported: Someone is actually paid to look after this. Maintained: Someone actually looks after it. Odd Fixes: It has a maintainer but they don't have time to do much other than throw the odd patch in. See below.. Orphan: No current maintainer [but maybe you could take the role as you write your new code]. Obsolete: Old code. Something tagged obsolete generally means it has been replaced by a better system and you should be using that.
(btw, I just realized that I should be changing the EDAC drivers I maintain to Supported; the media drivers I maintain should be kept as Maintained).
I suspect that the "maintainer-light" category for those radio and similar old stuff is likely "Odd Fixes".
There are some issues by not having a MAINTAINERS entry:
- patches may not flow into the driver maintainer;
- patches will likely be applied without tests/reviews or may stay for a long time queued;
- ./scripts/get_maintainer.pl at --no-git-fallback won't return any maintainer[1].
[1] Letting get_maintainer.pl is very time/CPU consuming. Letting it would delay a lot the patch review process, if applied for every patch, with unreliable and doubtful results. I don't do it, due to the large volume of patches, and because the 'other' results aren't typically the driver maintainer.
An example of this is the results for a patch I just applied (changeset 2866aed103b915ca8ba0ff76d5790caea4e62ced):
$ git show --pretty=email|./scripts/get_maintainer.pl Mauro Carvalho Chehab mchehab@infradead.org (maintainer:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...,commit_signer:7/7=100%) Hans Verkuil hans.verkuil@cisco.com (commit_signer:4/7=57%) Anatolij Gustschin agust@denx.de (commit_signer:1/7=14%) Wei Yongjun yongjun_wei@trendmicro.com.cn (commit_signer:1/7=14%) Hans de Goede hdegoede@redhat.com (commit_signer:1/7=14%) linux-media@vger.kernel.org (open list:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...) linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (open list)
According with this driver's copyrights:
- Copyright 2008-2010 Freescale Semiconductor, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
- Freescale VIU video driver
- Authors: Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com
Porting to 2.6.35 by DENX Software Engineering,
Anatolij Gustschin <agust@denx.de>
The driver author (Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com) was not even shown there, and the co-author got only 15% hit, while I got 100% and Hans got 57%.
This happens not only to this driver. In a matter of fact, on most cases where no MAINTAINERS entry exist, the driver's author gets a very small hit chance, as, on several of those drivers, the author doesn't post anything else but the initial patch series.
We probably need to have an entry for all the media drivers, even if it just points to the linux-media mailinglist as being the 'collective default maintainer'.
Yes, I think that all media drivers should be there. I prefer to tag the ones that nobody sends us a MAINTAINERS entry with "Orphan", as this tag indicates that help is wanted.
A MAINTAINERS entry should probably be required as well for new drivers.
Agreed.
Regards, Mauro
Em Thu, 1 Nov 2012 14:12:44 -0200 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mchehab@redhat.com escreveu:
Em Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:44:50 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
On Thu October 25 2012 19:27:01 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Hi Hans,
Em Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:35:56 +0200 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
Thank you for taking care of it.
- Explain current merging process (Mauro)
- Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
- Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, etc. (Hans Verkuil)
- V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
- TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
- dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test (Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is needed)
- Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung, only if time is available)
I have an extra theme for discussions there: what should we do with the drivers that don't have any MAINTAINERS entry.
I've added this topic to the list.
Thanks!
It probably makes sense to mark them as "Orphan" (or, at least, have some criteria to mark them as such). Perhaps before doing that, we could try to see if are there any developer at the community with time and patience to handle them.
This could of course be handled as part of the discussions about how to improve the merge process, but I suspect that this could generate enough discussions to be handled as a separate theme.
Do we have a 'Maintainer-Light' category? I have a lot of hardware that I can test. So while I wouldn't like to be marked as 'The Maintainer of driver X' (since I simply don't have the time for that), I wouldn't mind being marked as someone who can at least test patches if needed.
There are several "maintainance" status there:
S: Status, one of the following: Supported: Someone is actually paid to look after this. Maintained: Someone actually looks after it. Odd Fixes: It has a maintainer but they don't have time to do much other than throw the odd patch in. See below.. Orphan: No current maintainer [but maybe you could take the role as you write your new code]. Obsolete: Old code. Something tagged obsolete generally means it has been replaced by a better system and you should be using that.
(btw, I just realized that I should be changing the EDAC drivers I maintain to Supported; the media drivers I maintain should be kept as Maintained).
I suspect that the "maintainer-light" category for those radio and similar old stuff is likely "Odd Fixes".
There are some issues by not having a MAINTAINERS entry:
- patches may not flow into the driver maintainer;
- patches will likely be applied without tests/reviews or may stay for a long time queued;
- ./scripts/get_maintainer.pl at --no-git-fallback won't return any maintainer[1].
[1] Letting get_maintainer.pl is very time/CPU consuming. Letting it would delay a lot the patch review process, if applied for every patch, with unreliable and doubtful results. I don't do it, due to the large volume of patches, and because the 'other' results aren't typically the driver maintainer.
An example of this is the results for a patch I just applied (changeset 2866aed103b915ca8ba0ff76d5790caea4e62ced):
$ git show --pretty=email|./scripts/get_maintainer.pl Mauro Carvalho Chehab mchehab@infradead.org (maintainer:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...,commit_signer:7/7=100%) Hans Verkuil hans.verkuil@cisco.com (commit_signer:4/7=57%) Anatolij Gustschin agust@denx.de (commit_signer:1/7=14%) Wei Yongjun yongjun_wei@trendmicro.com.cn (commit_signer:1/7=14%) Hans de Goede hdegoede@redhat.com (commit_signer:1/7=14%) linux-media@vger.kernel.org (open list:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...) linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (open list)
According with this driver's copyrights:
- Copyright 2008-2010 Freescale Semiconductor, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
- Freescale VIU video driver
- Authors: Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com
Porting to 2.6.35 by DENX Software Engineering,
Anatolij Gustschin <agust@denx.de>
The driver author (Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com) was not even shown there, and the co-author got only 15% hit, while I got 100% and Hans got 57%.
This happens not only to this driver. In a matter of fact, on most cases where no MAINTAINERS entry exist, the driver's author gets a very small hit chance, as, on several of those drivers, the author doesn't post anything else but the initial patch series.
We probably need to have an entry for all the media drivers, even if it just points to the linux-media mailinglist as being the 'collective default maintainer'.
Yes, I think that all media drivers should be there. I prefer to tag the ones that nobody sends us a MAINTAINERS entry with "Orphan", as this tag indicates that help is wanted.
I wrote a small shell script to see what's missing, using the analyze_build.pl script at media-build devel_scripts dir:
DIR=$(dirname $0)
$DIR/analyze_build.pl --path drivers/media/ --show_files_per_module >/tmp/all_drivers grep drivers/media/ MAINTAINERS | perl -ne 's/F:\s+//;s,drivers/media/,,; print $_ if (!/^\n/)' >maintained grep -v -f maintained /tmp/all_drivers |grep -v -e keymaps -e v4l2-core/ -e dvb-core/ -e media.ko -e rc-core.ko -e ^#| sort >without_maint
I excluded the core files from the list, as they don't need any specific entry. RC keymaps is also a special case, as I don't think any maintainer is needed for them.
Basically, analyze_build.pl says that there are 613 drivers under drivers/media. The above script shows 348 drivers without an explicit maintainer. So, only 43% of the drivers have a formal maintainer.
Yet, on the list below, I think several of them can be easily tagged as "Odd fixes", like cx88 and saa7134.
I think I'll send today a few RFC MAINTAINERS patches for some stuff below that I can myself be added as "Odd fixes". Yet, I would very much prefer if someone with more time than me could be taking over the "Odd fixes" patches I'll propose.
Regards, Mauro
common/b2c2/b2c2-flexcop.ko = common/b2c2/flexcop-hw-filter.c common/b2c2/flexcop-sram.c common/b2c2/flexcop-eeprom.c common/b2c2/flexcop-misc.c common/b2c2/flexcop.c common/b2c2/flexcop-fe-tuner.c common/b2c2/flexcop-i2c.c common/siano/smsdvb.ko = common/siano/smsdvb.c common/siano/smsir.ko = common/siano/smsir.c common/siano/smsmdtv.ko = common/siano/smscoreapi.c common/siano/sms-cards.c common/siano/smsendian.c dvb-frontends/atbm8830.ko = dvb-frontends/atbm8830.c dvb-frontends/au8522_common.ko = dvb-frontends/au8522_common.c dvb-frontends/au8522_decoder.ko = dvb-frontends/au8522_decoder.c dvb-frontends/au8522_dig.ko = dvb-frontends/au8522_dig.c dvb-frontends/bcm3510.ko = dvb-frontends/bcm3510.c dvb-frontends/cx22700.ko = dvb-frontends/cx22700.c dvb-frontends/cx22702.ko = dvb-frontends/cx22702.c dvb-frontends/cx24110.ko = dvb-frontends/cx24110.c dvb-frontends/cx24113.ko = dvb-frontends/cx24113.c dvb-frontends/cx24116.ko = dvb-frontends/cx24116.c dvb-frontends/cx24123.ko = dvb-frontends/cx24123.c dvb-frontends/dib0070.ko = dvb-frontends/dib0070.c dvb-frontends/dib0090.ko = dvb-frontends/dib0090.c dvb-frontends/dib3000mb.ko = dvb-frontends/dib3000mb.c dvb-frontends/dib3000mc.ko = dvb-frontends/dib3000mc.c dvb-frontends/dib7000m.ko = dvb-frontends/dib7000m.c dvb-frontends/dib7000p.ko = dvb-frontends/dib7000p.c dvb-frontends/dib8000.ko = dvb-frontends/dib8000.c dvb-frontends/dib9000.ko = dvb-frontends/dib9000.c dvb-frontends/dibx000_common.ko = dvb-frontends/dibx000_common.c dvb-frontends/drxd.ko = dvb-frontends/drxd_firm.c dvb-frontends/drxd_hard.c dvb-frontends/drxk.ko = dvb-frontends/drxk_hard.c dvb-frontends/ds3000.ko = dvb-frontends/ds3000.c dvb-frontends/dvb_dummy_fe.ko = dvb-frontends/dvb_dummy_fe.c dvb-frontends/dvb-pll.ko = dvb-frontends/dvb-pll.c dvb-frontends/isl6405.ko = dvb-frontends/isl6405.c dvb-frontends/isl6421.ko = dvb-frontends/isl6421.c dvb-frontends/isl6423.ko = dvb-frontends/isl6423.c dvb-frontends/it913x-fe.ko = dvb-frontends/it913x-fe.c dvb-frontends/itd1000.ko = dvb-frontends/itd1000.c dvb-frontends/ix2505v.ko = dvb-frontends/ix2505v.c dvb-frontends/l64781.ko = dvb-frontends/l64781.c dvb-frontends/lgdt330x.ko = dvb-frontends/lgdt330x.c dvb-frontends/lgs8gl5.ko = dvb-frontends/lgs8gl5.c dvb-frontends/lgs8gxx.ko = dvb-frontends/lgs8gxx.c dvb-frontends/lnbp21.ko = dvb-frontends/lnbp21.c dvb-frontends/lnbp22.ko = dvb-frontends/lnbp22.c dvb-frontends/m88rs2000.ko = dvb-frontends/m88rs2000.c dvb-frontends/mb86a16.ko = dvb-frontends/mb86a16.c dvb-frontends/mb86a20s.ko = dvb-frontends/mb86a20s.c dvb-frontends/mt312.ko = dvb-frontends/mt312.c dvb-frontends/mt352.ko = dvb-frontends/mt352.c dvb-frontends/nxt200x.ko = dvb-frontends/nxt200x.c dvb-frontends/nxt6000.ko = dvb-frontends/nxt6000.c dvb-frontends/or51132.ko = dvb-frontends/or51132.c dvb-frontends/or51211.ko = dvb-frontends/or51211.c dvb-frontends/s5h1409.ko = dvb-frontends/s5h1409.c dvb-frontends/s5h1411.ko = dvb-frontends/s5h1411.c dvb-frontends/s5h1420.ko = dvb-frontends/s5h1420.c dvb-frontends/s5h1432.ko = dvb-frontends/s5h1432.c dvb-frontends/s921.ko = dvb-frontends/s921.c dvb-frontends/si21xx.ko = dvb-frontends/si21xx.c dvb-frontends/sp8870.ko = dvb-frontends/sp8870.c dvb-frontends/sp887x.ko = dvb-frontends/sp887x.c dvb-frontends/stb0899.ko = dvb-frontends/stb0899_drv.c dvb-frontends/stb0899_algo.c dvb-frontends/stb6000.ko = dvb-frontends/stb6000.c dvb-frontends/stb6100.ko = dvb-frontends/stb6100.c dvb-frontends/stv0288.ko = dvb-frontends/stv0288.c dvb-frontends/stv0297.ko = dvb-frontends/stv0297.c dvb-frontends/stv0299.ko = dvb-frontends/stv0299.c dvb-frontends/stv0367.ko = dvb-frontends/stv0367.c dvb-frontends/stv0900.ko = dvb-frontends/stv0900_core.c dvb-frontends/stv0900_sw.c dvb-frontends/stv090x.ko = dvb-frontends/stv090x.c dvb-frontends/stv6110.ko = dvb-frontends/stv6110.c dvb-frontends/stv6110x.ko = dvb-frontends/stv6110x.c dvb-frontends/tda10021.ko = dvb-frontends/tda10021.c dvb-frontends/tda10023.ko = dvb-frontends/tda10023.c dvb-frontends/tda10048.ko = dvb-frontends/tda10048.c dvb-frontends/tda1004x.ko = dvb-frontends/tda1004x.c dvb-frontends/tda10086.ko = dvb-frontends/tda10086.c dvb-frontends/tda18271c2dd.ko = dvb-frontends/tda18271c2dd.c dvb-frontends/tda665x.ko = dvb-frontends/tda665x.c dvb-frontends/tda8083.ko = dvb-frontends/tda8083.c dvb-frontends/tda8261.ko = dvb-frontends/tda8261.c dvb-frontends/tda826x.ko = dvb-frontends/tda826x.c dvb-frontends/tua6100.ko = dvb-frontends/tua6100.c dvb-frontends/ves1820.ko = dvb-frontends/ves1820.c dvb-frontends/ves1x93.ko = dvb-frontends/ves1x93.c dvb-frontends/zl10036.ko = dvb-frontends/zl10036.c dvb-frontends/zl10039.ko = dvb-frontends/zl10039.c dvb-frontends/zl10353.ko = dvb-frontends/zl10353.c firewire/firedtv.ko = + firewire/firedtv-rc.ko = firewire/firedtv-rc.c i2c/ad9389b.ko = i2c/ad9389b.c i2c/adp1653.ko = i2c/adp1653.c i2c/adv7170.ko = i2c/adv7170.c i2c/adv7175.ko = i2c/adv7175.c i2c/adv7180.ko = i2c/adv7180.c i2c/adv7183.ko = i2c/adv7183.c i2c/adv7343.ko = i2c/adv7343.c i2c/adv7393.ko = i2c/adv7393.c i2c/adv7604.ko = i2c/adv7604.c i2c/ak881x.ko = i2c/ak881x.c i2c/aptina-pll.ko = i2c/aptina-pll.c i2c/as3645a.ko = i2c/as3645a.c i2c/bt819.ko = i2c/bt819.c i2c/bt856.ko = i2c/bt856.c i2c/bt866.ko = i2c/bt866.c i2c/btcx-risc.ko = i2c/btcx-risc.c i2c/cs5345.ko = i2c/cs5345.c i2c/cs53l32a.ko = i2c/cs53l32a.c i2c/cx2341x.ko = i2c/cx2341x.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840.ko = i2c/cx25840/cx25840-core.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-audio.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-firmware.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-vbi.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-ir.c i2c/ir-kbd-i2c.ko = i2c/ir-kbd-i2c.c i2c/ks0127.ko = i2c/ks0127.c i2c/m52790.ko = i2c/m52790.c i2c/msp3400.ko = i2c/msp3400-driver.c i2c/msp3400-kthreads.c i2c/mt9m032.ko = i2c/mt9m032.c i2c/mt9p031.ko = i2c/mt9p031.c i2c/mt9t001.ko = i2c/mt9t001.c i2c/mt9v011.ko = i2c/mt9v011.c i2c/mt9v032.ko = i2c/mt9v032.c i2c/noon010pc30.ko = i2c/noon010pc30.c i2c/s5k4ecgx.ko = i2c/s5k4ecgx.c i2c/s5k6aa.ko = i2c/s5k6aa.c i2c/saa6588.ko = i2c/saa6588.c i2c/saa7110.ko = i2c/saa7110.c i2c/saa7115.ko = i2c/saa7115.c i2c/saa7127.ko = i2c/saa7127.c i2c/saa717x.ko = i2c/saa717x.c i2c/saa7185.ko = i2c/saa7185.c i2c/saa7191.ko = i2c/saa7191.c i2c/smiapp-pll.ko = i2c/smiapp-pll.c i2c/smiapp/smiapp.ko = i2c/smiapp/smiapp-core.c i2c/smiapp/smiapp-regs.c i2c/smiapp/smiapp-quirk.c i2c/smiapp/smiapp-limits.c i2c/sr030pc30.ko = i2c/sr030pc30.c i2c/tcm825x.ko = i2c/tcm825x.c i2c/tda7432.ko = i2c/tda7432.c i2c/tda9840.ko = i2c/tda9840.c i2c/tea6415c.ko = i2c/tea6415c.c i2c/tea6420.ko = i2c/tea6420.c i2c/ths7303.ko = i2c/ths7303.c i2c/tlv320aic23b.ko = i2c/tlv320aic23b.c i2c/tvaudio.ko = i2c/tvaudio.c i2c/tveeprom.ko = i2c/tveeprom.c i2c/tvp514x.ko = i2c/tvp514x.c i2c/tvp5150.ko = i2c/tvp5150.c i2c/tvp7002.ko = i2c/tvp7002.c i2c/upd64031a.ko = i2c/upd64031a.c i2c/upd64083.ko = i2c/upd64083.c i2c/vp27smpx.ko = i2c/vp27smpx.c i2c/vpx3220.ko = i2c/vpx3220.c i2c/vs6624.ko = i2c/vs6624.c i2c/wm8739.ko = i2c/wm8739.c i2c/wm8775.ko = i2c/wm8775.c mmc/siano/smssdio.ko = mmc/siano/smssdio.c parport/bw-qcam.ko = parport/bw-qcam.c parport/c-qcam.ko = parport/c-qcam.c parport/pms.ko = parport/pms.c parport/w9966.ko = parport/w9966.c pci/b2c2/b2c2-flexcop-pci.ko = pci/b2c2/flexcop-pci.c pci/b2c2/flexcop-dma.c pci/bt8xx/bt878.ko = pci/bt8xx/bt878.c pci/bt8xx/dst_ca.ko = pci/bt8xx/dst_ca.c pci/bt8xx/dst.ko = pci/bt8xx/dst.c pci/bt8xx/dvb-bt8xx.ko = pci/bt8xx/dvb-bt8xx.c pci/cx23885/altera-ci.ko = pci/cx23885/altera-ci.c pci/cx23885/cx23885.ko = pci/cx23885/cx23885-cards.c pci/cx23885/cx23885-video.c pci/cx23885/cx23885-vbi.c pci/cx23885/cx23885-core.c pci/cx23885/cx23885-i2c.c pci/cx23885/cx23885-dvb.c pci/cx23885/cx23885-417.c pci/cx23885/cx23885-ioctl.c pci/cx23885/cx23885-ir.c pci/cx23885/cx23885-av.c pci/cx23885/cx23885-input.c pci/cx23885/cx23888-ir.c pci/cx23885/netup-init.c pci/cx23885/cimax2.c pci/cx23885/netup-eeprom.c pci/cx23885/cx23885-f300.c pci/cx23885/cx23885-alsa.c pci/cx25821/cx25821-alsa.ko = pci/cx25821/cx25821-alsa.c pci/cx25821/cx25821.ko = pci/cx25821/cx25821-core.c pci/cx25821/cx25821-cards.c pci/cx25821/cx25821-i2c.c pci/cx25821/cx25821-gpio.c pci/cx25821/cx25821-medusa-video.c pci/cx25821/cx25821-video.c pci/cx25821/cx25821-video-upstream.c pci/cx25821/cx25821-video-upstream-ch2.c pci/cx25821/cx25821-audio-upstream.c pci/cx88/cx8800.ko = pci/cx88/cx88-video.c pci/cx88/cx88-vbi.c pci/cx88/cx8802.ko = pci/cx88/cx88-mpeg.c pci/cx88/cx88-alsa.ko = pci/cx88/cx88-alsa.c pci/cx88/cx88-blackbird.ko = pci/cx88/cx88-blackbird.c pci/cx88/cx88-dvb.ko = pci/cx88/cx88-dvb.c pci/cx88/cx88-vp3054-i2c.ko = pci/cx88/cx88-vp3054-i2c.c pci/cx88/cx88xx.ko = pci/cx88/cx88-cards.c pci/cx88/cx88-core.c pci/cx88/cx88-i2c.c pci/cx88/cx88-tvaudio.c pci/cx88/cx88-dsp.c pci/cx88/cx88-input.c pci/ddbridge/ddbridge.ko = pci/ddbridge/ddbridge-core.c pci/dm1105/dm1105.ko = pci/dm1105/dm1105.c pci/mantis/hopper.ko = pci/mantis/hopper_cards.c pci/mantis/hopper_vp3028.c pci/mantis/mantis_core.ko = pci/mantis/mantis_ioc.c pci/mantis/mantis_uart.c pci/mantis/mantis_dma.c pci/mantis/mantis_pci.c pci/mantis/mantis_i2c.c pci/mantis/mantis_dvb.c pci/mantis/mantis_evm.c pci/mantis/mantis_hif.c pci/mantis/mantis_ca.c pci/mantis/mantis_pcmcia.c pci/mantis/mantis_input.c pci/mantis/mantis.ko = pci/mantis/mantis_cards.c pci/mantis/mantis_vp1033.c pci/mantis/mantis_vp1034.c pci/mantis/mantis_vp1041.c pci/mantis/mantis_vp2033.c pci/mantis/mantis_vp2040.c pci/mantis/mantis_vp3030.c pci/ngene/ngene.ko = pci/ngene/ngene-core.c pci/ngene/ngene-i2c.c pci/ngene/ngene-cards.c pci/ngene/ngene-dvb.c pci/pluto2/pluto2.ko = pci/pluto2/pluto2.c pci/pt1/earth-pt1.ko = pci/pt1/pt1.c pci/pt1/va1j5jf8007s.c pci/pt1/va1j5jf8007t.c pci/saa7134/saa6752hs.ko = pci/saa7134/saa6752hs.c pci/saa7134/saa7134-alsa.ko = pci/saa7134/saa7134-alsa.c pci/saa7134/saa7134-dvb.ko = pci/saa7134/saa7134-dvb.c pci/saa7134/saa7134-empress.ko = pci/saa7134/saa7134-empress.c pci/saa7134/saa7134-input.ko = pci/saa7134/saa7134-input.c pci/saa7134/saa7134.ko = + pci/saa7164/saa7164.ko = pci/saa7164/saa7164-cards.c pci/saa7164/saa7164-core.c pci/saa7164/saa7164-i2c.c pci/saa7164/saa7164-dvb.c pci/saa7164/saa7164-fw.c pci/saa7164/saa7164-bus.c pci/saa7164/saa7164-cmd.c pci/saa7164/saa7164-api.c pci/saa7164/saa7164-buffer.c pci/saa7164/saa7164-encoder.c pci/saa7164/saa7164-vbi.c pci/sta2x11/sta2x11_vip.ko = pci/sta2x11/sta2x11_vip.c pci/ttpci/budget-av.ko = pci/ttpci/budget-av.c pci/ttpci/budget-ci.ko = pci/ttpci/budget-ci.c pci/ttpci/budget-core.ko = pci/ttpci/budget-core.c pci/ttpci/budget.ko = pci/ttpci/budget.c pci/ttpci/budget-patch.ko = pci/ttpci/budget-patch.c pci/ttpci/dvb-ttpci.ko = pci/ttpci/av7110_ir.c pci/ttpci/av7110_hw.c pci/ttpci/av7110_v4l.c pci/ttpci/av7110_av.c pci/ttpci/av7110_ca.c pci/ttpci/av7110.c pci/ttpci/av7110_ipack.c pci/ttpci/ttpci-eeprom.ko = pci/ttpci/ttpci-eeprom.c platform/arv.ko = platform/arv.c platform/blackfin/bfin_video_capture.ko = platform/blackfin/bfin_capture.c platform/blackfin/ppi.c platform/coda.ko = platform/coda.c platform/davinci/dm355_ccdc.ko = platform/davinci/dm355_ccdc.c platform/davinci/dm644x_ccdc.ko = platform/davinci/dm644x_ccdc.c platform/davinci/isif.ko = platform/davinci/isif.c platform/davinci/vpbe_display.ko = platform/davinci/vpbe_display.c platform/davinci/vpbe.ko = platform/davinci/vpbe.c platform/davinci/vpbe_osd.ko = platform/davinci/vpbe_osd.c platform/davinci/vpbe_venc.ko = platform/davinci/vpbe_venc.c platform/davinci/vpfe_capture.ko = platform/davinci/vpfe_capture.c platform/davinci/vpif_capture.ko = platform/davinci/vpif_capture.c platform/davinci/vpif_display.ko = platform/davinci/vpif_display.c platform/davinci/vpif.ko = platform/davinci/vpif.c platform/davinci/vpss.ko = platform/davinci/vpss.c platform/exynos-gsc/exynos-gsc.ko = platform/exynos-gsc/gsc-core.c platform/exynos-gsc/gsc-m2m.c platform/exynos-gsc/gsc-regs.c platform/fsl-viu.ko = platform/fsl-viu.c platform/indycam.ko = platform/indycam.c platform/m2m-deinterlace.ko = platform/m2m-deinterlace.c platform/mem2mem_testdev.ko = platform/mem2mem_testdev.c platform/mx2_emmaprp.ko = platform/mx2_emmaprp.c platform/omap2cam.ko = platform/omap24xxcam.c platform/omap24xxcam-dma.c platform/omap/omap-vout.ko = + platform/omap/omap_vout_vrfb.ko = platform/omap/omap_vout_vrfb.c platform/s5p-g2d/s5p-g2d.ko = platform/s5p-g2d/g2d.c platform/s5p-g2d/g2d-hw.c platform/s5p-jpeg/s5p-jpeg.ko = platform/s5p-jpeg/jpeg-core.c platform/sh_vou.ko = platform/sh_vou.c platform/timblogiw.ko = platform/timblogiw.c platform/via-camera.ko = platform/via-camera.c platform/vino.ko = platform/vino.c platform/vivi.ko = platform/vivi.c radio/dsbr100.ko = radio/dsbr100.c radio/radio-aimslab.ko = radio/radio-aimslab.c radio/radio-aztech.ko = radio/radio-aztech.c radio/radio-cadet.ko = radio/radio-cadet.c radio/radio-gemtek.ko = radio/radio-gemtek.c radio/radio-isa.ko = radio/radio-isa.c radio/radio-keene.ko = radio/radio-keene.c radio/radio-maxiradio.ko = radio/radio-maxiradio.c radio/radio-miropcm20.ko = radio/radio-miropcm20.c radio/radio-mr800.ko = radio/radio-mr800.c radio/radio-rtrack2.ko = radio/radio-rtrack2.c radio/radio-sf16fmi.ko = radio/radio-sf16fmi.c radio/radio-sf16fmr2.ko = radio/radio-sf16fmr2.c radio/radio-shark.ko = radio/radio-shark.c radio/radio-si4713.ko = radio/radio-si4713.c radio/radio-tea5764.ko = radio/radio-tea5764.c radio/radio-terratec.ko = radio/radio-terratec.c radio/radio-timb.ko = radio/radio-timb.c radio/radio-trust.ko = radio/radio-trust.c radio/radio-typhoon.ko = radio/radio-typhoon.c radio/radio-wl1273.ko = radio/radio-wl1273.c radio/radio-zoltrix.ko = radio/radio-zoltrix.c radio/saa7706h.ko = radio/saa7706h.c radio/shark2.ko = radio/radio-shark2.c radio/radio-tea5777.c radio/si470x/radio-i2c-si470x.ko = radio/si470x/radio-si470x-i2c.c radio/si470x/radio-si470x-common.c radio/si470x/radio-usb-si470x.ko = radio/si470x/radio-si470x-usb.c radio/si470x/radio-si470x-common.c radio/si4713-i2c.ko = radio/si4713-i2c.c radio/tef6862.ko = radio/tef6862.c radio/wl128x/fm_drv.ko = radio/wl128x/fmdrv_common.c radio/wl128x/fmdrv_rx.c radio/wl128x/fmdrv_tx.c radio/wl128x/fmdrv_v4l2.c rc/ati_remote.ko = rc/ati_remote.c rc/fintek-cir.ko = rc/fintek-cir.c rc/gpio-ir-recv.ko = rc/gpio-ir-recv.c rc/iguanair.ko = rc/iguanair.c rc/imon.ko = rc/imon.c rc/ir-jvc-decoder.ko = rc/ir-jvc-decoder.c rc/ir-lirc-codec.ko = rc/ir-lirc-codec.c rc/ir-mce_kbd-decoder.ko = rc/ir-mce_kbd-decoder.c rc/ir-nec-decoder.ko = rc/ir-nec-decoder.c rc/ir-rc5-decoder.ko = rc/ir-rc5-decoder.c rc/ir-rc5-sz-decoder.ko = rc/ir-rc5-sz-decoder.c rc/ir-rc6-decoder.ko = rc/ir-rc6-decoder.c rc/ir-rx51.ko = rc/ir-rx51.c rc/ir-sanyo-decoder.ko = rc/ir-sanyo-decoder.c rc/ir-sony-decoder.ko = rc/ir-sony-decoder.c rc/ite-cir.ko = rc/ite-cir.c rc/lirc_dev.ko = rc/lirc_dev.c rc/mceusb.ko = rc/mceusb.c rc/nuvoton-cir.ko = rc/nuvoton-cir.c rc/rc-loopback.ko = rc/rc-loopback.c rc/redrat3.ko = rc/redrat3.c rc/streamzap.ko = rc/streamzap.c rc/ttusbir.ko = rc/ttusbir.c tuners/fc0012.ko = tuners/fc0012.c tuners/fc0013.ko = tuners/fc0013.c tuners/max2165.ko = tuners/max2165.c tuners/mc44s803.ko = tuners/mc44s803.c tuners/mt2060.ko = tuners/mt2060.c tuners/mt2063.ko = tuners/mt2063.c tuners/mt20xx.ko = tuners/mt20xx.c tuners/mt2131.ko = tuners/mt2131.c tuners/mt2266.ko = tuners/mt2266.c tuners/mxl5005s.ko = tuners/mxl5005s.c tuners/tda827x.ko = tuners/tda827x.c tuners/tda9887.ko = tuners/tda9887.c tuners/tea5761.ko = tuners/tea5761.c tuners/tea5767.ko = tuners/tea5767.c tuners/tuner-simple.ko = tuners/tuner-simple.c tuners/tuner-types.ko = tuners/tuner-types.c tuners/tuner-xc2028.ko = tuners/tuner-xc2028.c tuners/xc4000.ko = tuners/xc4000.c tuners/xc5000.ko = tuners/xc5000.c usb/au0828/au0828.ko = usb/au0828/au0828-core.c usb/au0828/au0828-i2c.c usb/au0828/au0828-cards.c usb/au0828/au0828-dvb.c usb/au0828/au0828-video.c usb/au0828/au0828-vbi.c usb/b2c2/b2c2-flexcop-usb.ko = usb/b2c2/flexcop-usb.c usb/cpia2/cpia2.ko = usb/cpia2/cpia2_v4l.c usb/cpia2/cpia2_usb.c usb/cpia2/cpia2_core.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-alsa.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-audio.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-dvb.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-dvb.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-input.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-input.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx.ko = + usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-a800.ko = usb/dvb-usb/a800.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-af9005.ko = usb/dvb-usb/af9005.c usb/dvb-usb/af9005-fe.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-af9005-remote.ko = usb/dvb-usb/af9005-remote.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-az6027.ko = usb/dvb-usb/az6027.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-cinergyT2.ko = usb/dvb-usb/cinergyT2-core.c usb/dvb-usb/cinergyT2-fe.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-cxusb.ko = usb/dvb-usb/cxusb.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-dib0700.ko = usb/dvb-usb/dib0700_core.c usb/dvb-usb/dib0700_devices.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-dibusb-common.ko = usb/dvb-usb/dibusb-common.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-dibusb-mb.ko = usb/dvb-usb/dibusb-mb.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-dibusb-mc.ko = usb/dvb-usb/dibusb-mc.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-digitv.ko = usb/dvb-usb/digitv.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-dtt200u.ko = usb/dvb-usb/dtt200u.c usb/dvb-usb/dtt200u-fe.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-dtv5100.ko = usb/dvb-usb/dtv5100.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-dw2102.ko = usb/dvb-usb/dw2102.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-friio.ko = usb/dvb-usb/friio.c usb/dvb-usb/friio-fe.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-gp8psk.ko = usb/dvb-usb/gp8psk.c usb/dvb-usb/gp8psk-fe.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb.ko = usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-dvb.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-remote.c usb/dvb-usb/usb-urb.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-firmware.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-init.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-urb.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-i2c.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-m920x.ko = usb/dvb-usb/m920x.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-nova-t-usb2.ko = usb/dvb-usb/nova-t-usb2.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-opera.ko = usb/dvb-usb/opera1.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-pctv452e.ko = usb/dvb-usb/pctv452e.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-technisat-usb2.ko = usb/dvb-usb/technisat-usb2.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-ttusb2.ko = usb/dvb-usb/ttusb2.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-umt-010.ko = usb/dvb-usb/umt-010.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-vp702x.ko = usb/dvb-usb/vp702x.c usb/dvb-usb/vp702x-fe.c usb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-vp7045.ko = usb/dvb-usb/vp7045.c usb/dvb-usb/vp7045-fe.c usb/dvb-usb-v2/dvb-usb-az6007.ko = usb/dvb-usb-v2/az6007.c usb/dvb-usb-v2/dvb-usb-gl861.ko = usb/dvb-usb-v2/gl861.c usb/dvb-usb-v2/dvb-usb-it913x.ko = usb/dvb-usb-v2/it913x.c usb/dvb-usb-v2/dvb-usb-lmedm04.ko = usb/dvb-usb-v2/lmedm04.c usb/em28xx/em28xx-alsa.ko = usb/em28xx/em28xx-audio.c usb/em28xx/em28xx-dvb.ko = usb/em28xx/em28xx-dvb.c usb/em28xx/em28xx.ko = usb/em28xx/em28xx-core.c usb/em28xx/em28xx-vbi.c usb/em28xx/em28xx-video.c usb/em28xx/em28xx-i2c.c usb/em28xx/em28xx-cards.c usb/em28xx/em28xx-rc.ko = usb/em28xx/em28xx-input.c usb/hdpvr/hdpvr.ko = usb/hdpvr/hdpvr-control.c usb/hdpvr/hdpvr-core.c usb/hdpvr/hdpvr-video.c usb/hdpvr/hdpvr-i2c.c usb/pwc/pwc.ko = usb/pwc/pwc-dec1.c usb/pwc/pwc-dec23.c usb/pwc/pwc-kiara.c usb/pwc/pwc-timon.c usb/pwc/pwc-if.c usb/pwc/pwc-misc.c usb/pwc/pwc-ctrl.c usb/pwc/pwc-v4l.c usb/pwc/pwc-uncompress.c usb/s2255/s2255drv.ko = usb/s2255/s2255drv.c usb/siano/smsusb.ko = usb/siano/smsusb.c usb/stkwebcam/stkwebcam.ko = usb/stkwebcam/stk-webcam.c usb/stkwebcam/stk-sensor.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-alsa.ko = usb/tm6000/tm6000-alsa.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-dvb.ko = usb/tm6000/tm6000-dvb.c usb/tm6000/tm6000.ko = usb/tm6000/tm6000-cards.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-core.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-i2c.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-video.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-stds.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-input.c usb/ttusb-budget/dvb-ttusb-budget.ko = usb/ttusb-budget/dvb-ttusb-budget.c usb/ttusb-dec/ttusbdecfe.ko = usb/ttusb-dec/ttusbdecfe.c usb/ttusb-dec/ttusb_dec.ko = usb/ttusb-dec/ttusb_dec.c usb/usbvision/usbvision.ko = usb/usbvision/usbvision-core.c usb/usbvision/usbvision-video.c usb/usbvision/usbvision-i2c.c usb/usbvision/usbvision-cards.c
On Fri November 2 2012 14:13:10 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Thu, 1 Nov 2012 14:12:44 -0200 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mchehab@redhat.com escreveu:
Em Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:44:50 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
On Thu October 25 2012 19:27:01 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Hi Hans,
Em Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:35:56 +0200 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
Thank you for taking care of it.
- Explain current merging process (Mauro)
- Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
- Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, etc. (Hans Verkuil)
- V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
- TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
- dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test (Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is needed)
- Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung, only if time is available)
I have an extra theme for discussions there: what should we do with the drivers that don't have any MAINTAINERS entry.
I've added this topic to the list.
Thanks!
It probably makes sense to mark them as "Orphan" (or, at least, have some criteria to mark them as such). Perhaps before doing that, we could try to see if are there any developer at the community with time and patience to handle them.
This could of course be handled as part of the discussions about how to improve the merge process, but I suspect that this could generate enough discussions to be handled as a separate theme.
Do we have a 'Maintainer-Light' category? I have a lot of hardware that I can test. So while I wouldn't like to be marked as 'The Maintainer of driver X' (since I simply don't have the time for that), I wouldn't mind being marked as someone who can at least test patches if needed.
There are several "maintainance" status there:
S: Status, one of the following: Supported: Someone is actually paid to look after this. Maintained: Someone actually looks after it. Odd Fixes: It has a maintainer but they don't have time to do much other than throw the odd patch in. See below.. Orphan: No current maintainer [but maybe you could take the role as you write your new code]. Obsolete: Old code. Something tagged obsolete generally means it has been replaced by a better system and you should be using that.
(btw, I just realized that I should be changing the EDAC drivers I maintain to Supported; the media drivers I maintain should be kept as Maintained).
I suspect that the "maintainer-light" category for those radio and similar old stuff is likely "Odd Fixes".
There are some issues by not having a MAINTAINERS entry:
- patches may not flow into the driver maintainer;
- patches will likely be applied without tests/reviews or may stay for a long time queued;
- ./scripts/get_maintainer.pl at --no-git-fallback won't return any maintainer[1].
[1] Letting get_maintainer.pl is very time/CPU consuming. Letting it would delay a lot the patch review process, if applied for every patch, with unreliable and doubtful results. I don't do it, due to the large volume of patches, and because the 'other' results aren't typically the driver maintainer.
An example of this is the results for a patch I just applied (changeset 2866aed103b915ca8ba0ff76d5790caea4e62ced):
$ git show --pretty=email|./scripts/get_maintainer.pl Mauro Carvalho Chehab mchehab@infradead.org (maintainer:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...,commit_signer:7/7=100%) Hans Verkuil hans.verkuil@cisco.com (commit_signer:4/7=57%) Anatolij Gustschin agust@denx.de (commit_signer:1/7=14%) Wei Yongjun yongjun_wei@trendmicro.com.cn (commit_signer:1/7=14%) Hans de Goede hdegoede@redhat.com (commit_signer:1/7=14%) linux-media@vger.kernel.org (open list:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...) linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (open list)
According with this driver's copyrights:
- Copyright 2008-2010 Freescale Semiconductor, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
- Freescale VIU video driver
- Authors: Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com
Porting to 2.6.35 by DENX Software Engineering,
Anatolij Gustschin <agust@denx.de>
The driver author (Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com) was not even shown there, and the co-author got only 15% hit, while I got 100% and Hans got 57%.
This happens not only to this driver. In a matter of fact, on most cases where no MAINTAINERS entry exist, the driver's author gets a very small hit chance, as, on several of those drivers, the author doesn't post anything else but the initial patch series.
We probably need to have an entry for all the media drivers, even if it just points to the linux-media mailinglist as being the 'collective default maintainer'.
Yes, I think that all media drivers should be there. I prefer to tag the ones that nobody sends us a MAINTAINERS entry with "Orphan", as this tag indicates that help is wanted.
I wrote a small shell script to see what's missing, using the analyze_build.pl script at media-build devel_scripts dir:
DIR=$(dirname $0)
$DIR/analyze_build.pl --path drivers/media/ --show_files_per_module >/tmp/all_drivers grep drivers/media/ MAINTAINERS | perl -ne 's/F:\s+//;s,drivers/media/,,; print $_ if (!/^\n/)' >maintained grep -v -f maintained /tmp/all_drivers |grep -v -e keymaps -e v4l2-core/ -e dvb-core/ -e media.ko -e rc-core.ko -e ^#| sort >without_maint
I excluded the core files from the list, as they don't need any specific entry. RC keymaps is also a special case, as I don't think any maintainer is needed for them.
Basically, analyze_build.pl says that there are 613 drivers under drivers/media. The above script shows 348 drivers without an explicit maintainer. So, only 43% of the drivers have a formal maintainer.
Yet, on the list below, I think several of them can be easily tagged as "Odd fixes", like cx88 and saa7134.
I think I'll send today a few RFC MAINTAINERS patches for some stuff below that I can myself be added as "Odd fixes". Yet, I would very much prefer if someone with more time than me could be taking over the "Odd fixes" patches I'll propose.
Regards, Mauro
These two are 'Supported' by me:
i2c/ad9389b.ko = i2c/ad9389b.c i2c/adv7604.ko = i2c/adv7604.c
These are 'Maintained' by me:
i2c/cx2341x.ko = i2c/cx2341x.c parport/bw-qcam.ko = parport/bw-qcam.c parport/c-qcam.ko = parport/c-qcam.c radio/dsbr100.ko = radio/dsbr100.c radio/radio-cadet.ko = radio/radio-cadet.c radio/radio-isa.ko = radio/radio-isa.c radio/radio-keene.ko = radio/radio-keene.c
There are more radio drivers that can have that status, but I would need to check that when I'm back in Oslo.
I can do 'Odd fixes' for the following:
i2c/cx25840/cx25840.ko = i2c/cx25840/cx25840-core.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-audio.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-firmware.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-vbi.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-ir.c i2c/m52790.ko = i2c/m52790.c i2c/msp3400.ko = i2c/msp3400-driver.c i2c/msp3400-kthreads.c i2c/saa6588.ko = i2c/saa6588.c i2c/saa7110.ko = i2c/saa7110.c i2c/saa7115.ko = i2c/saa7115.c i2c/saa7127.ko = i2c/saa7127.c i2c/saa717x.ko = i2c/saa717x.c i2c/tda7432.ko = i2c/tda7432.c i2c/tda9840.ko = i2c/tda9840.c i2c/tea6415c.ko = i2c/tea6415c.c i2c/tea6420.ko = i2c/tea6420.c i2c/tvaudio.ko = i2c/tvaudio.c i2c/tveeprom.ko = i2c/tveeprom.c i2c/tvp5150.ko = i2c/tvp5150.c i2c/wm8739.ko = i2c/wm8739.c i2c/wm8775.ko = i2c/wm8775.c parport/pms.ko = parport/pms.c platform/vivi.ko = platform/vivi.c radio/radio-aimslab.ko = radio/radio-aimslab.c radio/radio-gemtek.ko = radio/radio-gemtek.c radio/radio-maxiradio.ko = radio/radio-maxiradio.c radio/radio-miropcm20.ko = radio/radio-miropcm20.c radio/radio-mr800.ko = radio/radio-mr800.c radio/radio-rtrack2.ko = radio/radio-rtrack2.c radio/radio-si4713.ko = radio/radio-si4713.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-alsa.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-audio.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-dvb.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-dvb.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-input.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-input.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx.ko = + usb/hdpvr/hdpvr.ko = usb/hdpvr/hdpvr-control.c usb/hdpvr/hdpvr-core.c usb/hdpvr/hdpvr-video.c usb/hdpvr/hdpvr-i2c.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-alsa.ko = usb/tm6000/tm6000-alsa.c usb/tm6000/tm6000.ko = usb/tm6000/tm6000-cards.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-core.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-i2c.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-video.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-stds.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-input.c usb/usbvision/usbvision.ko = usb/usbvision/usbvision-core.c usb/usbvision/usbvision-video.c usb/usbvision/usbvision-i2c.c usb/usbvision/usbvision-cards.c
Regards,
Hans
Em Fri, 2 Nov 2012 14:47:49 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
On Fri November 2 2012 14:13:10 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Thu, 1 Nov 2012 14:12:44 -0200 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mchehab@redhat.com escreveu:
Em Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:44:50 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
On Thu October 25 2012 19:27:01 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Hi Hans,
Em Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:35:56 +0200 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
Thank you for taking care of it.
- Explain current merging process (Mauro)
- Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
- Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, etc. (Hans Verkuil)
- V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
- TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
- dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test (Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is needed)
- Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung, only if time is available)
I have an extra theme for discussions there: what should we do with the drivers that don't have any MAINTAINERS entry.
I've added this topic to the list.
Thanks!
It probably makes sense to mark them as "Orphan" (or, at least, have some criteria to mark them as such). Perhaps before doing that, we could try to see if are there any developer at the community with time and patience to handle them.
This could of course be handled as part of the discussions about how to improve the merge process, but I suspect that this could generate enough discussions to be handled as a separate theme.
Do we have a 'Maintainer-Light' category? I have a lot of hardware that I can test. So while I wouldn't like to be marked as 'The Maintainer of driver X' (since I simply don't have the time for that), I wouldn't mind being marked as someone who can at least test patches if needed.
There are several "maintainance" status there:
S: Status, one of the following: Supported: Someone is actually paid to look after this. Maintained: Someone actually looks after it. Odd Fixes: It has a maintainer but they don't have time to do much other than throw the odd patch in. See below.. Orphan: No current maintainer [but maybe you could take the role as you write your new code]. Obsolete: Old code. Something tagged obsolete generally means it has been replaced by a better system and you should be using that.
(btw, I just realized that I should be changing the EDAC drivers I maintain to Supported; the media drivers I maintain should be kept as Maintained).
I suspect that the "maintainer-light" category for those radio and similar old stuff is likely "Odd Fixes".
There are some issues by not having a MAINTAINERS entry:
- patches may not flow into the driver maintainer;
- patches will likely be applied without tests/reviews or may stay for a long time queued;
- ./scripts/get_maintainer.pl at --no-git-fallback won't return any maintainer[1].
[1] Letting get_maintainer.pl is very time/CPU consuming. Letting it would delay a lot the patch review process, if applied for every patch, with unreliable and doubtful results. I don't do it, due to the large volume of patches, and because the 'other' results aren't typically the driver maintainer.
An example of this is the results for a patch I just applied (changeset 2866aed103b915ca8ba0ff76d5790caea4e62ced):
$ git show --pretty=email|./scripts/get_maintainer.pl Mauro Carvalho Chehab mchehab@infradead.org (maintainer:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...,commit_signer:7/7=100%) Hans Verkuil hans.verkuil@cisco.com (commit_signer:4/7=57%) Anatolij Gustschin agust@denx.de (commit_signer:1/7=14%) Wei Yongjun yongjun_wei@trendmicro.com.cn (commit_signer:1/7=14%) Hans de Goede hdegoede@redhat.com (commit_signer:1/7=14%) linux-media@vger.kernel.org (open list:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...) linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (open list)
According with this driver's copyrights:
- Copyright 2008-2010 Freescale Semiconductor, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
- Freescale VIU video driver
- Authors: Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com
Porting to 2.6.35 by DENX Software Engineering,
Anatolij Gustschin <agust@denx.de>
The driver author (Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com) was not even shown there, and the co-author got only 15% hit, while I got 100% and Hans got 57%.
This happens not only to this driver. In a matter of fact, on most cases where no MAINTAINERS entry exist, the driver's author gets a very small hit chance, as, on several of those drivers, the author doesn't post anything else but the initial patch series.
We probably need to have an entry for all the media drivers, even if it just points to the linux-media mailinglist as being the 'collective default maintainer'.
Yes, I think that all media drivers should be there. I prefer to tag the ones that nobody sends us a MAINTAINERS entry with "Orphan", as this tag indicates that help is wanted.
I wrote a small shell script to see what's missing, using the analyze_build.pl script at media-build devel_scripts dir:
DIR=$(dirname $0)
$DIR/analyze_build.pl --path drivers/media/ --show_files_per_module >/tmp/all_drivers grep drivers/media/ MAINTAINERS | perl -ne 's/F:\s+//;s,drivers/media/,,; print $_ if (!/^\n/)' >maintained grep -v -f maintained /tmp/all_drivers |grep -v -e keymaps -e v4l2-core/ -e dvb-core/ -e media.ko -e rc-core.ko -e ^#| sort >without_maint
I excluded the core files from the list, as they don't need any specific entry. RC keymaps is also a special case, as I don't think any maintainer is needed for them.
Basically, analyze_build.pl says that there are 613 drivers under drivers/media. The above script shows 348 drivers without an explicit maintainer. So, only 43% of the drivers have a formal maintainer.
Yet, on the list below, I think several of them can be easily tagged as "Odd fixes", like cx88 and saa7134.
I think I'll send today a few RFC MAINTAINERS patches for some stuff below that I can myself be added as "Odd fixes". Yet, I would very much prefer if someone with more time than me could be taking over the "Odd fixes" patches I'll propose.
Regards, Mauro
These two are 'Supported' by me:
i2c/ad9389b.ko = i2c/ad9389b.c i2c/adv7604.ko = i2c/adv7604.c
These are 'Maintained' by me:
i2c/cx2341x.ko = i2c/cx2341x.c parport/bw-qcam.ko = parport/bw-qcam.c parport/c-qcam.ko = parport/c-qcam.c radio/dsbr100.ko = radio/dsbr100.c radio/radio-cadet.ko = radio/radio-cadet.c radio/radio-isa.ko = radio/radio-isa.c radio/radio-keene.ko = radio/radio-keene.c
OK. Could you please send patches for those? I think that the better is to write one patch by each MAINTAINERS entry (except, of course, if there are consecutive entries), as I suspect that MAINTAINERS is likely one of top-rated merge-conflicts file.
There are more radio drivers that can have that status, but I would need to check that when I'm back in Oslo.
I can do 'Odd fixes' for the following:
i2c/cx25840/cx25840.ko = i2c/cx25840/cx25840-core.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-audio.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-firmware.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-vbi.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-ir.c i2c/m52790.ko = i2c/m52790.c i2c/msp3400.ko = i2c/msp3400-driver.c i2c/msp3400-kthreads.c i2c/saa6588.ko = i2c/saa6588.c i2c/saa7110.ko = i2c/saa7110.c i2c/saa7115.ko = i2c/saa7115.c i2c/saa7127.ko = i2c/saa7127.c i2c/saa717x.ko = i2c/saa717x.c i2c/tda7432.ko = i2c/tda7432.c i2c/tda9840.ko = i2c/tda9840.c i2c/tea6415c.ko = i2c/tea6415c.c i2c/tea6420.ko = i2c/tea6420.c i2c/tvaudio.ko = i2c/tvaudio.c i2c/tveeprom.ko = i2c/tveeprom.c
i2c/tvp5150.ko = i2c/tvp5150.c
While I don't mind if you want to do odd fixes for this device, I think I can maintain this one, as the "default" device I use for random tests has this chipset (HVR-950), and I wrote this driver.
i2c/wm8739.ko = i2c/wm8739.c i2c/wm8775.ko = i2c/wm8775.c parport/pms.ko = parport/pms.c platform/vivi.ko = platform/vivi.c radio/radio-aimslab.ko = radio/radio-aimslab.c radio/radio-gemtek.ko = radio/radio-gemtek.c radio/radio-maxiradio.ko = radio/radio-maxiradio.c radio/radio-miropcm20.ko = radio/radio-miropcm20.c radio/radio-mr800.ko = radio/radio-mr800.c radio/radio-rtrack2.ko = radio/radio-rtrack2.c radio/radio-si4713.ko = radio/radio-si4713.c
usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-alsa.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-audio.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-dvb.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-dvb.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-input.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-input.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx.ko = +
I think we should check if the driver author is not interested on taking maintainership for this one, before putting it on Odd fixes status.
usb/hdpvr/hdpvr.ko = usb/hdpvr/hdpvr-control.c usb/hdpvr/hdpvr-core.c usb/hdpvr/hdpvr-video.c usb/hdpvr/hdpvr-i2c.c
usb/tm6000/tm6000-alsa.ko = usb/tm6000/tm6000-alsa.c usb/tm6000/tm6000.ko = usb/tm6000/tm6000-cards.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-core.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-i2c.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-video.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-stds.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-input.c
Just submitted an RFC patch for this one, also as "Odd fixes". Of course, I don't mind if you prefer to take it. Btw, you forgot the tm6000-dvb driver, that it is part of it.
usb/usbvision/usbvision.ko = usb/usbvision/usbvision-core.c usb/usbvision/usbvision-video.c usb/usbvision/usbvision-i2c.c usb/usbvision/usbvision-cards.c
Regards,
Hans
Regards, Mauro
Thanks Hans and Mauro.
On any of the CX drivers, if we do not have any "maintainer" or "odd fixer", you could add me to the "odd fixer" list.
Rgds, Palash
-----Original Message----- From: media-workshop-bounces@linuxtv.org [mailto:media-workshop-bounces@linuxtv.org] On Behalf Of Mauro Carvalho Chehab Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 7:35 AM To: Hans Verkuil Cc: media-workshop@linuxtv.org; linux-media Subject: Re: [media-workshop] drivers without explicit MAINTAINERS entry - was: Re: Tentative Agenda for the November workshop
Em Fri, 2 Nov 2012 14:47:49 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
On Fri November 2 2012 14:13:10 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Thu, 1 Nov 2012 14:12:44 -0200 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mchehab@redhat.com escreveu:
Em Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:44:50 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
On Thu October 25 2012 19:27:01 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Hi Hans,
Em Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:35:56 +0200 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
Thank you for taking care of it.
- Explain current merging process (Mauro)
- Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
- Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, etc. (Hans Verkuil)
- V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
- TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
- dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test
(Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this
topic is needed)
- Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung, only if time is available)
I have an extra theme for discussions there: what should we do with the drivers that don't have any MAINTAINERS entry.
I've added this topic to the list.
Thanks!
It probably makes sense to mark them as "Orphan" (or, at least, have some criteria to mark them as such). Perhaps before doing that, we could try to see if are there any developer at the community with time and patience to handle them.
This could of course be handled as part of the discussions about how to improve the merge process, but I suspect that this could generate enough discussions to be handled as a separate theme.
Do we have a 'Maintainer-Light' category? I have a lot of hardware that I can test. So while I wouldn't like to be marked as 'The Maintainer of driver X' (since I simply don't have the time for that), I wouldn't mind being marked as someone who can at least test patches if needed.
There are several "maintainance" status there:
S: Status, one of the following: Supported: Someone is actually paid to look after this. Maintained: Someone actually looks after it. Odd Fixes: It has a maintainer but they don't have time to do much other than throw the odd patch in. See below.. Orphan: No current maintainer [but maybe you could take the role as you write your new code]. Obsolete: Old code. Something tagged obsolete generally means it has been replaced by a better system and you should be using that.
(btw, I just realized that I should be changing the EDAC drivers I maintain to Supported; the media drivers I maintain should be kept as Maintained).
I suspect that the "maintainer-light" category for those radio and similar old stuff is likely "Odd Fixes".
There are some issues by not having a MAINTAINERS entry:
- patches may not flow into the driver maintainer;
- patches will likely be applied without tests/reviews or may stay for a long time queued;
- ./scripts/get_maintainer.pl at --no-git-fallback won't return any maintainer[1].
[1] Letting get_maintainer.pl is very time/CPU consuming. Letting it would delay a lot the patch review process, if applied for every patch, with unreliable and doubtful results. I don't do it, due to the large volume of patches, and because the 'other' results aren't typically the driver maintainer.
An example of this is the results for a patch I just applied (changeset 2866aed103b915ca8ba0ff76d5790caea4e62ced):
$ git show --pretty=email|./scripts/get_maintainer.pl Mauro Carvalho Chehab mchehab@infradead.org (maintainer:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...,commit_signer:7/7=100%) Hans Verkuil hans.verkuil@cisco.com (commit_signer:4/7=57%) Anatolij Gustschin agust@denx.de (commit_signer:1/7=14%) Wei Yongjun yongjun_wei@trendmicro.com.cn (commit_signer:1/7=14%) Hans de Goede hdegoede@redhat.com (commit_signer:1/7=14%) linux-media@vger.kernel.org (open list:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...) linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (open list)
According with this driver's copyrights:
- Copyright 2008-2010 Freescale Semiconductor, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
- Freescale VIU video driver
- Authors: Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com
Porting to 2.6.35 by DENX Software Engineering,
Anatolij Gustschin <agust@denx.de>
The driver author (Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com) was not even shown there, and the co-author got only 15% hit, while I got 100% and Hans got 57%.
This happens not only to this driver. In a matter of fact, on most cases where no MAINTAINERS entry exist, the driver's author gets a very small hit chance, as, on several of those drivers, the author doesn't post anything else but the initial patch series.
We probably need to have an entry for all the media drivers, even if it just points to the linux-media mailinglist as being the 'collective default maintainer'.
Yes, I think that all media drivers should be there. I prefer to tag the ones that nobody sends us a MAINTAINERS entry with "Orphan", as this tag indicates that help is wanted.
I wrote a small shell script to see what's missing, using the analyze_build.pl script at media-build devel_scripts dir:
DIR=$(dirname $0)
$DIR/analyze_build.pl --path drivers/media/ --show_files_per_module >/tmp/all_drivers grep drivers/media/ MAINTAINERS | perl -ne 's/F:\s+//;s,drivers/media/,,; print $_ if (!/^\n/)' >maintained grep -v -f maintained /tmp/all_drivers |grep -v -e keymaps -e v4l2-core/ -e dvb-core/ -e media.ko -e rc-core.ko -e ^#| sort
without_maint
I excluded the core files from the list, as they don't need any specific entry. RC keymaps is also a special case, as I don't think any maintainer is needed for them.
Basically, analyze_build.pl says that there are 613 drivers under drivers/media. The above script shows 348 drivers without an explicit maintainer. So, only 43% of the drivers have a formal maintainer.
Yet, on the list below, I think several of them can be easily tagged as "Odd fixes", like cx88 and saa7134.
I think I'll send today a few RFC MAINTAINERS patches for some stuff below that I can myself be added as "Odd fixes". Yet, I would very much prefer if someone with more time than me could be taking over the "Odd fixes" patches I'll propose.
Regards, Mauro
These two are 'Supported' by me:
i2c/ad9389b.ko = i2c/ad9389b.c i2c/adv7604.ko = i2c/adv7604.c
These are 'Maintained' by me:
i2c/cx2341x.ko = i2c/cx2341x.c parport/bw-qcam.ko = parport/bw-qcam.c parport/c-qcam.ko = parport/c-qcam.c radio/dsbr100.ko = radio/dsbr100.c radio/radio-cadet.ko = radio/radio-cadet.c radio/radio-isa.ko = radio/radio-isa.c radio/radio-keene.ko = radio/radio-keene.c
OK. Could you please send patches for those? I think that the better is to write one patch by each MAINTAINERS entry (except, of course, if there are consecutive entries), as I suspect that MAINTAINERS is likely one of top-rated merge-conflicts file.
There are more radio drivers that can have that status, but I would need to check that when I'm back in Oslo.
I can do 'Odd fixes' for the following:
i2c/cx25840/cx25840.ko = i2c/cx25840/cx25840-core.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-audio.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-firmware.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-vbi.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-ir.c i2c/m52790.ko = i2c/m52790.c i2c/msp3400.ko = i2c/msp3400-driver.c i2c/msp3400-kthreads.c i2c/saa6588.ko = i2c/saa6588.c i2c/saa7110.ko = i2c/saa7110.c i2c/saa7115.ko = i2c/saa7115.c i2c/saa7127.ko = i2c/saa7127.c i2c/saa717x.ko = i2c/saa717x.c i2c/tda7432.ko = i2c/tda7432.c i2c/tda9840.ko = i2c/tda9840.c i2c/tea6415c.ko = i2c/tea6415c.c i2c/tea6420.ko = i2c/tea6420.c i2c/tvaudio.ko = i2c/tvaudio.c i2c/tveeprom.ko = i2c/tveeprom.c
i2c/tvp5150.ko = i2c/tvp5150.c
While I don't mind if you want to do odd fixes for this device, I think I can maintain this one, as the "default" device I use for random tests has this chipset (HVR-950), and I wrote this driver.
i2c/wm8739.ko = i2c/wm8739.c i2c/wm8775.ko = i2c/wm8775.c parport/pms.ko = parport/pms.c platform/vivi.ko = platform/vivi.c radio/radio-aimslab.ko = radio/radio-aimslab.c radio/radio-gemtek.ko = radio/radio-gemtek.c radio/radio-maxiradio.ko = radio/radio-maxiradio.c radio/radio-miropcm20.ko = radio/radio-miropcm20.c radio/radio-mr800.ko = radio/radio-mr800.c radio/radio-rtrack2.ko = radio/radio-rtrack2.c radio/radio-si4713.ko = radio/radio-si4713.c
usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-alsa.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-audio.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-dvb.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-dvb.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-input.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-input.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx.ko = +
I think we should check if the driver author is not interested on taking maintainership for this one, before putting it on Odd fixes status.
usb/hdpvr/hdpvr.ko = usb/hdpvr/hdpvr-control.c usb/hdpvr/hdpvr-core.c usb/hdpvr/hdpvr-video.c usb/hdpvr/hdpvr-i2c.c
usb/tm6000/tm6000-alsa.ko = usb/tm6000/tm6000-alsa.c usb/tm6000/tm6000.ko = usb/tm6000/tm6000-cards.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-core.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-i2c.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-video.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-stds.c usb/tm6000/tm6000-input.c
Just submitted an RFC patch for this one, also as "Odd fixes". Of course, I don't mind if you prefer to take it. Btw, you forgot the tm6000-dvb driver, that it is part of it.
usb/usbvision/usbvision.ko = usb/usbvision/usbvision-core.c usb/usbvision/usbvision-video.c usb/usbvision/usbvision-i2c.c usb/usbvision/usbvision-cards.c
Regards,
Hans
Regards, Mauro
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Hi Mauro, Hans, all,
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mchehab@redhat.com wrote:
Em Fri, 2 Nov 2012 14:47:49 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
On Fri November 2 2012 14:13:10 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Thu, 1 Nov 2012 14:12:44 -0200 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mchehab@redhat.com escreveu:
Em Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:44:50 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
On Thu October 25 2012 19:27:01 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Hi Hans,
Em Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:35:56 +0200 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
> Hi all, > > This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. > If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong > or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
Thank you for taking care of it.
> - Explain current merging process (Mauro) > - Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro) > - Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for > staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, > etc. (Hans Verkuil) > - V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil) > - TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat > - dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test (Mauro/Samsung) > - Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is needed) > - Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung, only > if time is available)
I have an extra theme for discussions there: what should we do with the drivers that don't have any MAINTAINERS entry.
I've added this topic to the list.
Thanks!
It probably makes sense to mark them as "Orphan" (or, at least, have some criteria to mark them as such). Perhaps before doing that, we could try to see if are there any developer at the community with time and patience to handle them.
This could of course be handled as part of the discussions about how to improve the merge process, but I suspect that this could generate enough discussions to be handled as a separate theme.
Do we have a 'Maintainer-Light' category? I have a lot of hardware that I can test. So while I wouldn't like to be marked as 'The Maintainer of driver X' (since I simply don't have the time for that), I wouldn't mind being marked as someone who can at least test patches if needed.
There are several "maintainance" status there:
S: Status, one of the following: Supported: Someone is actually paid to look after this. Maintained: Someone actually looks after it. Odd Fixes: It has a maintainer but they don't have time to do much other than throw the odd patch in. See below.. Orphan: No current maintainer [but maybe you could take the role as you write your new code]. Obsolete: Old code. Something tagged obsolete generally means it has been replaced by a better system and you should be using that.
(btw, I just realized that I should be changing the EDAC drivers I maintain to Supported; the media drivers I maintain should be kept as Maintained).
I suspect that the "maintainer-light" category for those radio and similar old stuff is likely "Odd Fixes".
There are some issues by not having a MAINTAINERS entry: - patches may not flow into the driver maintainer; - patches will likely be applied without tests/reviews or may stay for a long time queued; - ./scripts/get_maintainer.pl at --no-git-fallback won't return any maintainer[1].
[1] Letting get_maintainer.pl is very time/CPU consuming. Letting it would delay a lot the patch review process, if applied for every patch, with unreliable and doubtful results. I don't do it, due to the large volume of patches, and because the 'other' results aren't typically the driver maintainer.
An example of this is the results for a patch I just applied (changeset 2866aed103b915ca8ba0ff76d5790caea4e62ced):
$ git show --pretty=email|./scripts/get_maintainer.pl Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org> (maintainer:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...,commit_signer:7/7=100%) Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@cisco.com> (commit_signer:4/7=57%) Anatolij Gustschin <agust@denx.de> (commit_signer:1/7=14%) Wei Yongjun <yongjun_wei@trendmicro.com.cn> (commit_signer:1/7=14%) Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com> (commit_signer:1/7=14%) linux-media@vger.kernel.org (open list:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...) linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (open list)
According with this driver's copyrights:
- Copyright 2008-2010 Freescale Semiconductor, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
- Freescale VIU video driver
- Authors: Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com
Porting to 2.6.35 by DENX Software Engineering,
Anatolij Gustschin <agust@denx.de>
The driver author (Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com) was not even shown there, and the co-author got only 15% hit, while I got 100% and Hans got 57%.
This happens not only to this driver. In a matter of fact, on most cases where no MAINTAINERS entry exist, the driver's author gets a very small hit chance, as, on several of those drivers, the author doesn't post anything else but the initial patch series.
We probably need to have an entry for all the media drivers, even if it just points to the linux-media mailinglist as being the 'collective default maintainer'.
Yes, I think that all media drivers should be there. I prefer to tag the ones that nobody sends us a MAINTAINERS entry with "Orphan", as this tag indicates that help is wanted.
I wrote a small shell script to see what's missing, using the analyze_build.pl script at media-build devel_scripts dir:
DIR=$(dirname $0) $DIR/analyze_build.pl --path drivers/media/ --show_files_per_module >/tmp/all_drivers grep drivers/media/ MAINTAINERS | perl -ne 's/F:\s+//;s,drivers/media/,,; print $_ if (!/^\n/)' >maintained grep -v -f maintained /tmp/all_drivers |grep -v -e keymaps -e v4l2-core/ -e dvb-core/ -e media.ko -e rc-core.ko -e ^#| sort >without_maint
I excluded the core files from the list, as they don't need any specific entry. RC keymaps is also a special case, as I don't think any maintainer is needed for them.
Basically, analyze_build.pl says that there are 613 drivers under drivers/media. The above script shows 348 drivers without an explicit maintainer. So, only 43% of the drivers have a formal maintainer.
Yet, on the list below, I think several of them can be easily tagged as "Odd fixes", like cx88 and saa7134.
I think I'll send today a few RFC MAINTAINERS patches for some stuff below that I can myself be added as "Odd fixes". Yet, I would very much prefer if someone with more time than me could be taking over the "Odd fixes" patches I'll propose.
Regards, Mauro
These two are 'Supported' by me:
i2c/ad9389b.ko = i2c/ad9389b.c i2c/adv7604.ko = i2c/adv7604.c
These are 'Maintained' by me:
i2c/cx2341x.ko = i2c/cx2341x.c parport/bw-qcam.ko = parport/bw-qcam.c parport/c-qcam.ko = parport/c-qcam.c radio/dsbr100.ko = radio/dsbr100.c radio/radio-cadet.ko = radio/radio-cadet.c radio/radio-isa.ko = radio/radio-isa.c radio/radio-keene.ko = radio/radio-keene.c
OK. Could you please send patches for those? I think that the better is to write one patch by each MAINTAINERS entry (except, of course, if there are consecutive entries), as I suspect that MAINTAINERS is likely one of top-rated merge-conflicts file.
There are more radio drivers that can have that status, but I would need to check that when I'm back in Oslo.
I can do 'Odd fixes' for the following:
i2c/cx25840/cx25840.ko = i2c/cx25840/cx25840-core.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-audio.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-firmware.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-vbi.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-ir.c i2c/m52790.ko = i2c/m52790.c i2c/msp3400.ko = i2c/msp3400-driver.c i2c/msp3400-kthreads.c i2c/saa6588.ko = i2c/saa6588.c i2c/saa7110.ko = i2c/saa7110.c i2c/saa7115.ko = i2c/saa7115.c i2c/saa7127.ko = i2c/saa7127.c i2c/saa717x.ko = i2c/saa717x.c i2c/tda7432.ko = i2c/tda7432.c i2c/tda9840.ko = i2c/tda9840.c i2c/tea6415c.ko = i2c/tea6415c.c i2c/tea6420.ko = i2c/tea6420.c i2c/tvaudio.ko = i2c/tvaudio.c i2c/tveeprom.ko = i2c/tveeprom.c
i2c/tvp5150.ko = i2c/tvp5150.c
While I don't mind if you want to do odd fixes for this device, I think I can maintain this one, as the "default" device I use for random tests has this chipset (HVR-950), and I wrote this driver.
i2c/wm8739.ko = i2c/wm8739.c i2c/wm8775.ko = i2c/wm8775.c parport/pms.ko = parport/pms.c platform/vivi.ko = platform/vivi.c radio/radio-aimslab.ko = radio/radio-aimslab.c radio/radio-gemtek.ko = radio/radio-gemtek.c radio/radio-maxiradio.ko = radio/radio-maxiradio.c radio/radio-miropcm20.ko = radio/radio-miropcm20.c radio/radio-mr800.ko = radio/radio-mr800.c radio/radio-rtrack2.ko = radio/radio-rtrack2.c radio/radio-si4713.ko = radio/radio-si4713.c
usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-alsa.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-audio.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-dvb.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-dvb.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-input.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-input.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx.ko = +
I think we should check if the driver author is not interested on taking maintainership for this one, before putting it on Odd fixes status.
I'm very sorry for long silence but i'm ready to take maintainership for radio-mr800. By the way, i think that only fixes will be present for this driver in the future.
Is it possible for driver to have two maintainers or for example one person marked as maintainer and another one marked as "odd fixes" ? I mean i'm interested to be in c/c regarding all email, news, interesting patches for radio-mr800, dsbr100 and usb radio part of si470x but i don't know how to mark it that i want to help with these drivers. I have only dsbr100, mr800 and kworld fm700 (based on si470x) usb radios and i'm ready to test any patches and help as much as i can. I don't have usb radio for radio-keene.c driver but i probably will take a look how to buy it here..
And i'm also ready to maintain driver radio-ma901.c. I posted patches for this device about two weeks ago. Driver is rather small (first working version) but i hope to add more features there in future.
Best regards and wishes, Alexey Klimov
Em Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:41:57 +0400 Alexey Klimov klimov.linux@gmail.com escreveu:
Hi Mauro, Hans, all,
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mchehab@redhat.com wrote:
Em Fri, 2 Nov 2012 14:47:49 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
On Fri November 2 2012 14:13:10 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Thu, 1 Nov 2012 14:12:44 -0200 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mchehab@redhat.com escreveu:
Em Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:44:50 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
On Thu October 25 2012 19:27:01 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > Hi Hans, > > Em Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:35:56 +0200 > Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu: > > > Hi all, > > > > This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. > > If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong > > or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list. > > Thank you for taking care of it. > > > - Explain current merging process (Mauro) > > - Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro) > > - Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for > > staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, > > etc. (Hans Verkuil) > > - V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil) > > - TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat > > - dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test (Mauro/Samsung) > > - Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is needed) > > - Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung, only > > if time is available) > > I have an extra theme for discussions there: what should we do with the drivers > that don't have any MAINTAINERS entry.
I've added this topic to the list.
Thanks!
> It probably makes sense to mark them as "Orphan" (or, at least, have some > criteria to mark them as such). Perhaps before doing that, we could try > to see if are there any developer at the community with time and patience > to handle them. > > This could of course be handled as part of the discussions about how to improve > the merge process, but I suspect that this could generate enough discussions > to be handled as a separate theme.
Do we have a 'Maintainer-Light' category? I have a lot of hardware that I can test. So while I wouldn't like to be marked as 'The Maintainer of driver X' (since I simply don't have the time for that), I wouldn't mind being marked as someone who can at least test patches if needed.
There are several "maintainance" status there:
S: Status, one of the following: Supported: Someone is actually paid to look after this. Maintained: Someone actually looks after it. Odd Fixes: It has a maintainer but they don't have time to do much other than throw the odd patch in. See below.. Orphan: No current maintainer [but maybe you could take the role as you write your new code]. Obsolete: Old code. Something tagged obsolete generally means it has been replaced by a better system and you should be using that.
(btw, I just realized that I should be changing the EDAC drivers I maintain to Supported; the media drivers I maintain should be kept as Maintained).
I suspect that the "maintainer-light" category for those radio and similar old stuff is likely "Odd Fixes".
> There are some issues by not having a MAINTAINERS entry: > - patches may not flow into the driver maintainer; > - patches will likely be applied without tests/reviews or may > stay for a long time queued; > - ./scripts/get_maintainer.pl at --no-git-fallback won't return > any maintainer[1]. > > [1] Letting get_maintainer.pl is very time/CPU consuming. Letting it would > delay a lot the patch review process, if applied for every patch, with > unreliable and doubtful results. I don't do it, due to the large volume > of patches, and because the 'other' results aren't typically the driver > maintainer. > > An example of this is the results for a patch I just applied > (changeset 2866aed103b915ca8ba0ff76d5790caea4e62ced): > > $ git show --pretty=email|./scripts/get_maintainer.pl > Mauro Carvalho Chehab mchehab@infradead.org (maintainer:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...,commit_signer:7/7=100%) > Hans Verkuil hans.verkuil@cisco.com (commit_signer:4/7=57%) > Anatolij Gustschin agust@denx.de (commit_signer:1/7=14%) > Wei Yongjun yongjun_wei@trendmicro.com.cn (commit_signer:1/7=14%) > Hans de Goede hdegoede@redhat.com (commit_signer:1/7=14%) > linux-media@vger.kernel.org (open list:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...) > linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (open list) > > According with this driver's copyrights: > > * Copyright 2008-2010 Freescale Semiconductor, Inc. All Rights Reserved. > * > * Freescale VIU video driver > * > * Authors: Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com > * Porting to 2.6.35 by DENX Software Engineering, > * Anatolij Gustschin agust@denx.de > > The driver author (Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com) was not even > shown there, and the co-author got only 15% hit, while I got 100% and Hans > got 57%. > > This happens not only to this driver. In a matter of fact, on most cases where > no MAINTAINERS entry exist, the driver's author gets a very small hit chance, > as, on several of those drivers, the author doesn't post anything else but > the initial patch series.
We probably need to have an entry for all the media drivers, even if it just points to the linux-media mailinglist as being the 'collective default maintainer'.
Yes, I think that all media drivers should be there. I prefer to tag the ones that nobody sends us a MAINTAINERS entry with "Orphan", as this tag indicates that help is wanted.
I wrote a small shell script to see what's missing, using the analyze_build.pl script at media-build devel_scripts dir:
DIR=$(dirname $0) $DIR/analyze_build.pl --path drivers/media/ --show_files_per_module >/tmp/all_drivers grep drivers/media/ MAINTAINERS | perl -ne 's/F:\s+//;s,drivers/media/,,; print $_ if (!/^\n/)' >maintained grep -v -f maintained /tmp/all_drivers |grep -v -e keymaps -e v4l2-core/ -e dvb-core/ -e media.ko -e rc-core.ko -e ^#| sort >without_maint
I excluded the core files from the list, as they don't need any specific entry. RC keymaps is also a special case, as I don't think any maintainer is needed for them.
Basically, analyze_build.pl says that there are 613 drivers under drivers/media. The above script shows 348 drivers without an explicit maintainer. So, only 43% of the drivers have a formal maintainer.
Yet, on the list below, I think several of them can be easily tagged as "Odd fixes", like cx88 and saa7134.
I think I'll send today a few RFC MAINTAINERS patches for some stuff below that I can myself be added as "Odd fixes". Yet, I would very much prefer if someone with more time than me could be taking over the "Odd fixes" patches I'll propose.
Regards, Mauro
These two are 'Supported' by me:
i2c/ad9389b.ko = i2c/ad9389b.c i2c/adv7604.ko = i2c/adv7604.c
These are 'Maintained' by me:
i2c/cx2341x.ko = i2c/cx2341x.c parport/bw-qcam.ko = parport/bw-qcam.c parport/c-qcam.ko = parport/c-qcam.c radio/dsbr100.ko = radio/dsbr100.c radio/radio-cadet.ko = radio/radio-cadet.c radio/radio-isa.ko = radio/radio-isa.c radio/radio-keene.ko = radio/radio-keene.c
OK. Could you please send patches for those? I think that the better is to write one patch by each MAINTAINERS entry (except, of course, if there are consecutive entries), as I suspect that MAINTAINERS is likely one of top-rated merge-conflicts file.
There are more radio drivers that can have that status, but I would need to check that when I'm back in Oslo.
I can do 'Odd fixes' for the following:
i2c/cx25840/cx25840.ko = i2c/cx25840/cx25840-core.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-audio.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-firmware.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-vbi.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-ir.c i2c/m52790.ko = i2c/m52790.c i2c/msp3400.ko = i2c/msp3400-driver.c i2c/msp3400-kthreads.c i2c/saa6588.ko = i2c/saa6588.c i2c/saa7110.ko = i2c/saa7110.c i2c/saa7115.ko = i2c/saa7115.c i2c/saa7127.ko = i2c/saa7127.c i2c/saa717x.ko = i2c/saa717x.c i2c/tda7432.ko = i2c/tda7432.c i2c/tda9840.ko = i2c/tda9840.c i2c/tea6415c.ko = i2c/tea6415c.c i2c/tea6420.ko = i2c/tea6420.c i2c/tvaudio.ko = i2c/tvaudio.c i2c/tveeprom.ko = i2c/tveeprom.c
i2c/tvp5150.ko = i2c/tvp5150.c
While I don't mind if you want to do odd fixes for this device, I think I can maintain this one, as the "default" device I use for random tests has this chipset (HVR-950), and I wrote this driver.
i2c/wm8739.ko = i2c/wm8739.c i2c/wm8775.ko = i2c/wm8775.c parport/pms.ko = parport/pms.c platform/vivi.ko = platform/vivi.c radio/radio-aimslab.ko = radio/radio-aimslab.c radio/radio-gemtek.ko = radio/radio-gemtek.c radio/radio-maxiradio.ko = radio/radio-maxiradio.c radio/radio-miropcm20.ko = radio/radio-miropcm20.c radio/radio-mr800.ko = radio/radio-mr800.c radio/radio-rtrack2.ko = radio/radio-rtrack2.c radio/radio-si4713.ko = radio/radio-si4713.c
usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-alsa.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-audio.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-dvb.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-dvb.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-input.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-input.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx.ko = +
I think we should check if the driver author is not interested on taking maintainership for this one, before putting it on Odd fixes status.
I'm very sorry for long silence but i'm ready to take maintainership for radio-mr800. By the way, i think that only fixes will be present for this driver in the future.
Good. could you please send us a patch for Maintainers then?
Is it possible for driver to have two maintainers or for example one person marked as maintainer and another one marked as "odd fixes" ?
Well, it is possible to have two maintainers for a driver. A few of them have it, but, AFAIKT, the driver maintainership status should be just one for the entire driver.
I mean i'm interested to be in c/c regarding all email, news, interesting patches for radio-mr800, dsbr100 and usb radio part of si470x but i don't know how to mark it that i want to help with these drivers. I have only dsbr100, mr800 and kworld fm700 (based on si470x) usb radios and i'm ready to test any patches and help as much as i can.
If the above drivers have a maintainer, the patch adding you there as another maintainer should be sent by him (or with his ack).
I don't have usb radio for radio-keene.c driver but i probably will take a look how to buy it here..
And i'm also ready to maintain driver radio-ma901.c. I posted patches for this device about two weeks ago. Driver is rather small (first working version) but i hope to add more features there in future.
Ok. Please send us a maintainership patch for it as well.
Thank you! Mauro
Best regards and wishes, Alexey Klimov
Hi Alexey,
On Mon November 12 2012 19:41:57 Alexey Klimov wrote:
Hi Mauro, Hans, all,
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mchehab@redhat.com wrote:
Em Fri, 2 Nov 2012 14:47:49 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
On Fri November 2 2012 14:13:10 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Thu, 1 Nov 2012 14:12:44 -0200 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mchehab@redhat.com escreveu:
Em Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:44:50 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu:
On Thu October 25 2012 19:27:01 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > Hi Hans, > > Em Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:35:56 +0200 > Hans Verkuil hverkuil@xs4all.nl escreveu: > > > Hi all, > > > > This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. > > If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong > > or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list. > > Thank you for taking care of it. > > > - Explain current merging process (Mauro) > > - Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro) > > - Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for > > staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, > > etc. (Hans Verkuil) > > - V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil) > > - TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat > > - dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test (Mauro/Samsung) > > - Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is needed) > > - Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung, only > > if time is available) > > I have an extra theme for discussions there: what should we do with the drivers > that don't have any MAINTAINERS entry.
I've added this topic to the list.
Thanks!
> It probably makes sense to mark them as "Orphan" (or, at least, have some > criteria to mark them as such). Perhaps before doing that, we could try > to see if are there any developer at the community with time and patience > to handle them. > > This could of course be handled as part of the discussions about how to improve > the merge process, but I suspect that this could generate enough discussions > to be handled as a separate theme.
Do we have a 'Maintainer-Light' category? I have a lot of hardware that I can test. So while I wouldn't like to be marked as 'The Maintainer of driver X' (since I simply don't have the time for that), I wouldn't mind being marked as someone who can at least test patches if needed.
There are several "maintainance" status there:
S: Status, one of the following: Supported: Someone is actually paid to look after this. Maintained: Someone actually looks after it. Odd Fixes: It has a maintainer but they don't have time to do much other than throw the odd patch in. See below.. Orphan: No current maintainer [but maybe you could take the role as you write your new code]. Obsolete: Old code. Something tagged obsolete generally means it has been replaced by a better system and you should be using that.
(btw, I just realized that I should be changing the EDAC drivers I maintain to Supported; the media drivers I maintain should be kept as Maintained).
I suspect that the "maintainer-light" category for those radio and similar old stuff is likely "Odd Fixes".
> There are some issues by not having a MAINTAINERS entry: > - patches may not flow into the driver maintainer; > - patches will likely be applied without tests/reviews or may > stay for a long time queued; > - ./scripts/get_maintainer.pl at --no-git-fallback won't return > any maintainer[1]. > > [1] Letting get_maintainer.pl is very time/CPU consuming. Letting it would > delay a lot the patch review process, if applied for every patch, with > unreliable and doubtful results. I don't do it, due to the large volume > of patches, and because the 'other' results aren't typically the driver > maintainer. > > An example of this is the results for a patch I just applied > (changeset 2866aed103b915ca8ba0ff76d5790caea4e62ced): > > $ git show --pretty=email|./scripts/get_maintainer.pl > Mauro Carvalho Chehab mchehab@infradead.org (maintainer:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...,commit_signer:7/7=100%) > Hans Verkuil hans.verkuil@cisco.com (commit_signer:4/7=57%) > Anatolij Gustschin agust@denx.de (commit_signer:1/7=14%) > Wei Yongjun yongjun_wei@trendmicro.com.cn (commit_signer:1/7=14%) > Hans de Goede hdegoede@redhat.com (commit_signer:1/7=14%) > linux-media@vger.kernel.org (open list:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...) > linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (open list) > > According with this driver's copyrights: > > * Copyright 2008-2010 Freescale Semiconductor, Inc. All Rights Reserved. > * > * Freescale VIU video driver > * > * Authors: Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com > * Porting to 2.6.35 by DENX Software Engineering, > * Anatolij Gustschin agust@denx.de > > The driver author (Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com) was not even > shown there, and the co-author got only 15% hit, while I got 100% and Hans > got 57%. > > This happens not only to this driver. In a matter of fact, on most cases where > no MAINTAINERS entry exist, the driver's author gets a very small hit chance, > as, on several of those drivers, the author doesn't post anything else but > the initial patch series.
We probably need to have an entry for all the media drivers, even if it just points to the linux-media mailinglist as being the 'collective default maintainer'.
Yes, I think that all media drivers should be there. I prefer to tag the ones that nobody sends us a MAINTAINERS entry with "Orphan", as this tag indicates that help is wanted.
I wrote a small shell script to see what's missing, using the analyze_build.pl script at media-build devel_scripts dir:
DIR=$(dirname $0) $DIR/analyze_build.pl --path drivers/media/ --show_files_per_module >/tmp/all_drivers grep drivers/media/ MAINTAINERS | perl -ne 's/F:\s+//;s,drivers/media/,,; print $_ if (!/^\n/)' >maintained grep -v -f maintained /tmp/all_drivers |grep -v -e keymaps -e v4l2-core/ -e dvb-core/ -e media.ko -e rc-core.ko -e ^#| sort >without_maint
I excluded the core files from the list, as they don't need any specific entry. RC keymaps is also a special case, as I don't think any maintainer is needed for them.
Basically, analyze_build.pl says that there are 613 drivers under drivers/media. The above script shows 348 drivers without an explicit maintainer. So, only 43% of the drivers have a formal maintainer.
Yet, on the list below, I think several of them can be easily tagged as "Odd fixes", like cx88 and saa7134.
I think I'll send today a few RFC MAINTAINERS patches for some stuff below that I can myself be added as "Odd fixes". Yet, I would very much prefer if someone with more time than me could be taking over the "Odd fixes" patches I'll propose.
Regards, Mauro
These two are 'Supported' by me:
i2c/ad9389b.ko = i2c/ad9389b.c i2c/adv7604.ko = i2c/adv7604.c
These are 'Maintained' by me:
i2c/cx2341x.ko = i2c/cx2341x.c parport/bw-qcam.ko = parport/bw-qcam.c parport/c-qcam.ko = parport/c-qcam.c radio/dsbr100.ko = radio/dsbr100.c radio/radio-cadet.ko = radio/radio-cadet.c radio/radio-isa.ko = radio/radio-isa.c radio/radio-keene.ko = radio/radio-keene.c
OK. Could you please send patches for those? I think that the better is to write one patch by each MAINTAINERS entry (except, of course, if there are consecutive entries), as I suspect that MAINTAINERS is likely one of top-rated merge-conflicts file.
There are more radio drivers that can have that status, but I would need to check that when I'm back in Oslo.
I can do 'Odd fixes' for the following:
i2c/cx25840/cx25840.ko = i2c/cx25840/cx25840-core.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-audio.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-firmware.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-vbi.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-ir.c i2c/m52790.ko = i2c/m52790.c i2c/msp3400.ko = i2c/msp3400-driver.c i2c/msp3400-kthreads.c i2c/saa6588.ko = i2c/saa6588.c i2c/saa7110.ko = i2c/saa7110.c i2c/saa7115.ko = i2c/saa7115.c i2c/saa7127.ko = i2c/saa7127.c i2c/saa717x.ko = i2c/saa717x.c i2c/tda7432.ko = i2c/tda7432.c i2c/tda9840.ko = i2c/tda9840.c i2c/tea6415c.ko = i2c/tea6415c.c i2c/tea6420.ko = i2c/tea6420.c i2c/tvaudio.ko = i2c/tvaudio.c i2c/tveeprom.ko = i2c/tveeprom.c
i2c/tvp5150.ko = i2c/tvp5150.c
While I don't mind if you want to do odd fixes for this device, I think I can maintain this one, as the "default" device I use for random tests has this chipset (HVR-950), and I wrote this driver.
i2c/wm8739.ko = i2c/wm8739.c i2c/wm8775.ko = i2c/wm8775.c parport/pms.ko = parport/pms.c platform/vivi.ko = platform/vivi.c radio/radio-aimslab.ko = radio/radio-aimslab.c radio/radio-gemtek.ko = radio/radio-gemtek.c radio/radio-maxiradio.ko = radio/radio-maxiradio.c radio/radio-miropcm20.ko = radio/radio-miropcm20.c radio/radio-mr800.ko = radio/radio-mr800.c radio/radio-rtrack2.ko = radio/radio-rtrack2.c radio/radio-si4713.ko = radio/radio-si4713.c
usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-alsa.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-audio.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-dvb.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-dvb.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-input.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-input.c usb/cx231xx/cx231xx.ko = +
I think we should check if the driver author is not interested on taking maintainership for this one, before putting it on Odd fixes status.
I'm very sorry for long silence but i'm ready to take maintainership for radio-mr800. By the way, i think that only fixes will be present for this driver in the future.
Is it possible for driver to have two maintainers or for example one person marked as maintainer and another one marked as "odd fixes" ? I mean i'm interested to be in c/c regarding all email, news, interesting patches for radio-mr800, dsbr100 and usb radio part of si470x but i don't know how to mark it that i want to help with these drivers. I have only dsbr100, mr800 and kworld fm700 (based on si470x) usb radios and i'm ready to test any patches and help as much as i can.
I saw that you made a MAINTAINERS entry for radio-mr800, but not for dsbr100 or si470x. Do you want to be the maintainer for those two, or shall I add myself as the 'Odd Fixes' entry? I have hardware for both.
I don't have usb radio for radio-keene.c driver but i probably will take a look how to buy it here..
I wrote the driver for that one, so I'll be the maintainer for this driver (I'm preparing MAINTAINERS patches as I write this).
And i'm also ready to maintain driver radio-ma901.c. I posted patches for this device about two weeks ago. Driver is rather small (first working version) but i hope to add more features there in future.
I missed this post, I'll try to do a quick review today.
Did you run v4l2-compliance on this driver? If not, then you should do that (v4l2-compliance -r /dev/radioX) and fix any errors it produces.
Regards,
Hans
Hi Mauro,
On Friday 02 November 2012 11:13:10 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Thu, 1 Nov 2012 14:12:44 -0200 Mauro Carvalho Chehab escreveu:
Em Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:44:50 +0100 Hans Verkuil escreveu:
On Thu October 25 2012 19:27:01 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:35:56 +0200 Hans Verkuil escreveu:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
Thank you for taking care of it.
- Explain current merging process (Mauro)
- Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro)
- Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, etc. (Hans Verkuil)
- V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil)
- TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat
- dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test (Mauro/Samsung)
- Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is needed) - Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung, only if time is available)
I have an extra theme for discussions there: what should we do with the drivers that don't have any MAINTAINERS entry.
I've added this topic to the list.
Thanks!
It probably makes sense to mark them as "Orphan" (or, at least, have some criteria to mark them as such). Perhaps before doing that, we could try to see if are there any developer at the community with time and patience to handle them.
This could of course be handled as part of the discussions about how to improve the merge process, but I suspect that this could generate enough discussions to be handled as a separate theme.
Do we have a 'Maintainer-Light' category? I have a lot of hardware that I can test. So while I wouldn't like to be marked as 'The Maintainer of driver X' (since I simply don't have the time for that), I wouldn't mind being marked as someone who can at least test patches if needed.
There are several "maintainance" status there: S: Status, one of the following: Supported: Someone is actually paid to look after this. Maintained: Someone actually looks after it. Odd Fixes: It has a maintainer but they don't have time to do much other than throw the odd patch in. See below.. Orphan: No current maintainer [but maybe you could take the role as you write your new code]. Obsolete: Old code. Something tagged obsolete generally means it has been replaced by a better system and you should be using that.
(btw, I just realized that I should be changing the EDAC drivers I maintain to Supported; the media drivers I maintain should be kept as Maintained).
I suspect that the "maintainer-light" category for those radio and similar old stuff is likely "Odd Fixes".
There are some issues by not having a MAINTAINERS entry:
- patches may not flow into the driver maintainer;
- patches will likely be applied without tests/reviews or may stay for a long time queued;
- ./scripts/get_maintainer.pl at --no-git-fallback won't return any maintainer[1].
[1] Letting get_maintainer.pl is very time/CPU consuming. Letting it would delay a lot the patch review process, if applied for every patch, with unreliable and doubtful results. I don't do it, due to the large volume of patches, and because the 'other' results aren't typically the driver maintainer.
An example of this is the results for a patch I just applied
(changeset 2866aed103b915ca8ba0ff76d5790caea4e62ced): $ git show --pretty=email|./scripts/get_maintainer.pl Mauro Carvalho Chehab mchehab@infradead.org (maintainer:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...,commit_signer:7/7=100%) Hans Verkuil hans.verkuil@cisco.com (commit_signer:4/7=57%) Anatolij Gustschin agust@denx.de (commit_signer:1/7=14%) Wei Yongjun yongjun_wei@trendmicro.com.cn (commit_signer:1/7=14%) Hans de Goede hdegoede@redhat.com (commit_signer:1/7=14%) linux-media@vger.kernel.org (open list:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...) linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (open list)
According with this driver's copyrights:
- Copyright 2008-2010 Freescale Semiconductor, Inc. All Rights
Reserved.
- Freescale VIU video driver
- Authors: Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com
Porting to 2.6.35 by DENX Software Engineering,
Anatolij Gustschin <agust@denx.de>
The driver author (Hongjun Chen hong-jun.chen@freescale.com) was not even shown there, and the co-author got only 15% hit, while I got 100% and Hans got 57%.
This happens not only to this driver. In a matter of fact, on most cases where no MAINTAINERS entry exist, the driver's author gets a very small hit chance, as, on several of those drivers, the author doesn't post anything else but the initial patch series.
We probably need to have an entry for all the media drivers, even if it just points to the linux-media mailinglist as being the 'collective default maintainer'.
Yes, I think that all media drivers should be there. I prefer to tag the ones that nobody sends us a MAINTAINERS entry with "Orphan", as this tag indicates that help is wanted.
I wrote a small shell script to see what's missing, using the analyze_build.pl script at media-build devel_scripts dir:
DIR=$(dirname $0)
$DIR/analyze_build.pl --path drivers/media/ --show_files_per_module
/tmp/all_drivers grep drivers/media/ MAINTAINERS | perl -ne
's/F:\s+//;s,drivers/media/,,; print $_ if (!/^\n/)' >maintained grep -v -f maintained /tmp/all_drivers |grep -v -e keymaps -e v4l2-core/ -e dvb-core/ -e media.ko -e rc-core.ko -e ^#| sort >without_maint
I excluded the core files from the list, as they don't need any specific entry. RC keymaps is also a special case, as I don't think any maintainer is needed for them.
Basically, analyze_build.pl says that there are 613 drivers under drivers/media. The above script shows 348 drivers without an explicit maintainer. So, only 43% of the drivers have a formal maintainer.
Yet, on the list below, I think several of them can be easily tagged as "Odd fixes", like cx88 and saa7134.
I think I'll send today a few RFC MAINTAINERS patches for some stuff below that I can myself be added as "Odd fixes". Yet, I would very much prefer if someone with more time than me could be taking over the "Odd fixes" patches I'll propose.
These are 'Maintained' by me:
i2c/aptina-pll.ko = i2c/aptina-pll.c i2c/mt9p031.ko = i2c/mt9p031.c i2c/mt9t001.ko = i2c/mt9t001.c i2c/mt9v032.ko = i2c/mt9v032.c
I can maintain the following driver if needed:
i2c/mt9m032.ko = i2c/mt9m032.c
I could also take over maintenance the following driver, but I don't have access to a hardware platform that uses it:
i2c/mt9v011.ko = i2c/mt9v011.c
These are, as far as I know, co-maintained by Sakari and me :-)
i2c/adp1653.ko = i2c/adp1653.c i2c/as3645a.ko = i2c/as3645a.c
Hi Martin,
On Thursday 08 November 2012 15:18:38 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Friday 02 November 2012 11:13:10 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Thu, 1 Nov 2012 14:12:44 -0200 Mauro Carvalho Chehab escreveu:
Em Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:44:50 +0100 Hans Verkuil escreveu:
On Thu October 25 2012 19:27:01 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:35:56 +0200 Hans Verkuil escreveu:
Hi all,
This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list.
[snip]
I have an extra theme for discussions there: what should we do with the drivers that don't have any MAINTAINERS entry.
I've added this topic to the list.
Thanks!
It probably makes sense to mark them as "Orphan" (or, at least, have some criteria to mark them as such). Perhaps before doing that, we could try to see if are there any developer at the community with time and patience to handle them.
This could of course be handled as part of the discussions about how to improve the merge process, but I suspect that this could generate enough discussions to be handled as a separate theme.
Do we have a 'Maintainer-Light' category? I have a lot of hardware that I can test. So while I wouldn't like to be marked as 'The Maintainer of driver X' (since I simply don't have the time for that), I wouldn't mind being marked as someone who can at least test patches if needed.
There are several "maintainance" status there: S: Status, one of the following: Supported: Someone is actually paid to look after this. Maintained: Someone actually looks after it. Odd Fixes: It has a maintainer but they don't have time to do much other than throw the odd patch in. See below.. Orphan: No current maintainer [but maybe you could take the role as you write your new code]. Obsolete: Old code. Something tagged obsolete generally means it has been replaced by a better system and you should be using that.
[snip]
We probably need to have an entry for all the media drivers, even if it just points to the linux-media mailinglist as being the 'collective default maintainer'.
Yes, I think that all media drivers should be there. I prefer to tag the ones that nobody sends us a MAINTAINERS entry with "Orphan", as this tag indicates that help is wanted.
I wrote a small shell script to see what's missing, using the
analyze_build.pl script at media-build devel_scripts dir: DIR=$(dirname $0)
$DIR/analyze_build.pl --path drivers/media/ --show_files_per_module
/tmp/all_drivers grep drivers/media/ MAINTAINERS | perl -ne
's/F:\s+//;s,drivers/media/,,; print $_ if (!/^\n/)' >maintained grep -v -f maintained /tmp/all_drivers |grep -v -e keymaps -e v4l2-core/ -e dvb-core/ -e media.ko -e rc-core.ko -e ^#| sort >without_maint
I excluded the core files from the list, as they don't need any specific entry. RC keymaps is also a special case, as I don't think any maintainer is needed for them.
Basically, analyze_build.pl says that there are 613 drivers under drivers/media. The above script shows 348 drivers without an explicit maintainer. So, only 43% of the drivers have a formal maintainer.
Yet, on the list below, I think several of them can be easily tagged as "Odd fixes", like cx88 and saa7134.
I think I'll send today a few RFC MAINTAINERS patches for some stuff below that I can myself be added as "Odd fixes". Yet, I would very much prefer if someone with more time than me could be taking over the "Odd fixes" patches I'll propose.
These are 'Maintained' by me:
i2c/aptina-pll.ko = i2c/aptina-pll.c i2c/mt9p031.ko = i2c/mt9p031.c i2c/mt9t001.ko = i2c/mt9t001.c i2c/mt9v032.ko = i2c/mt9v032.c
I can maintain the following driver if needed:
i2c/mt9m032.ko = i2c/mt9m032.c
Do you plan to send a MAINTAINERS patch for this driver (and thus maintain the driver :-)), or should I maintain it ?
I could also take over maintenance the following driver, but I don't have access to a hardware platform that uses it:
i2c/mt9v011.ko = i2c/mt9v011.c
These are, as far as I know, co-maintained by Sakari and me :-)
i2c/adp1653.ko = i2c/adp1653.c i2c/as3645a.ko = i2c/as3645a.c
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:53:17AM +0100, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
Hi Martin,
On Thursday 08 November 2012 15:18:38 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
[ snip ]
These are 'Maintained' by me:
i2c/aptina-pll.ko = i2c/aptina-pll.c i2c/mt9p031.ko = i2c/mt9p031.c i2c/mt9t001.ko = i2c/mt9t001.c i2c/mt9v032.ko = i2c/mt9v032.c
I can maintain the following driver if needed:
i2c/mt9m032.ko = i2c/mt9m032.c
Do you plan to send a MAINTAINERS patch for this driver (and thus maintain the driver :-)), or should I maintain it ?
I sadly neigher have time nor hardware to maintain this driver at the moment so i would be more than happy if you can maintain it.
Thanks, - Martin Hostettler
I could also take over maintenance the following driver, but I don't have access to a hardware platform that uses it:
i2c/mt9v011.ko = i2c/mt9v011.c
These are, as far as I know, co-maintained by Sakari and me :-)
i2c/adp1653.ko = i2c/adp1653.c i2c/as3645a.ko = i2c/as3645a.c
-- Regards,
Laurent Pinchart
Hi Martin,
On Monday 10 December 2012 23:01:31 martin@neutronstar.dyndns.org wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:53:17AM +0100, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
Hi Martin,
On Thursday 08 November 2012 15:18:38 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
[ snip ]
These are 'Maintained' by me:
i2c/aptina-pll.ko = i2c/aptina-pll.c i2c/mt9p031.ko = i2c/mt9p031.c i2c/mt9t001.ko = i2c/mt9t001.c i2c/mt9v032.ko = i2c/mt9v032.c
I can maintain the following driver if needed:
i2c/mt9m032.ko = i2c/mt9m032.c
Do you plan to send a MAINTAINERS patch for this driver (and thus maintain the driver :-)), or should I maintain it ?
I sadly neigher have time nor hardware to maintain this driver at the moment so i would be more than happy if you can maintain it.
OK, I will do that.
I could also take over maintenance the following driver, but I don't have access to a hardware platform that uses it:
i2c/mt9v011.ko = i2c/mt9v011.c
These are, as far as I know, co-maintained by Sakari and me :-)
i2c/adp1653.ko = i2c/adp1653.c i2c/as3645a.ko = i2c/as3645a.c
Hi Mauro,
On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 11:13:10AM -0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: ... These are "Maintained" by me (with Laurent):
i2c/adp1653.ko = i2c/adp1653.c i2c/as3645a.ko = i2c/as3645a.c
"Maintained" by me:
i2c/smiapp-pll.ko = i2c/smiapp-pll.c i2c/smiapp/smiapp.ko = i2c/smiapp/smiapp-core.c i2c/smiapp/smiapp-regs.c i2c/smiapp/smiapp-quirk.c i2c/smiapp/smiapp-limits.c
"Odd fixes":
i2c/tcm825x.ko = i2c/tcm825x.c platform/omap2cam.ko = platform/omap24xxcam.c platform/omap24xxcam-dma.c
Regards,
Hi Sakari,
Em Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:55:22 +0200 Sakari Ailus sakari.ailus@iki.fi escreveu:
Hi Mauro,
On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 11:13:10AM -0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: ... These are "Maintained" by me (with Laurent):
i2c/adp1653.ko = i2c/adp1653.c i2c/as3645a.ko = i2c/as3645a.c
"Maintained" by me:
i2c/smiapp-pll.ko = i2c/smiapp-pll.c i2c/smiapp/smiapp.ko = i2c/smiapp/smiapp-core.c i2c/smiapp/smiapp-regs.c i2c/smiapp/smiapp-quirk.c i2c/smiapp/smiapp-limits.c
"Odd fixes":
i2c/tcm825x.ko = i2c/tcm825x.c platform/omap2cam.ko = platform/omap24xxcam.c platform/omap24xxcam-dma.c
Regards,
Care to send us a patch with the above? It is likely better to have one entry per driver, to reduce the risk of merge conflicts upstream.
And the smiapp-pll which is in a way part of the smiapp driver.
Signed-off-by: Sakari Ailus sakari.ailus@iki.fi --- MAINTAINERS | 16 ++++++++++++++++ 1 files changed, 16 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS index f4b3aa8..9c2a6bb 100644 --- a/MAINTAINERS +++ b/MAINTAINERS @@ -336,6 +336,13 @@ W: http://wireless.kernel.org/ S: Orphan F: drivers/net/wireless/adm8211.*
+ADP1653 FLASH CONTROLLER DRIVER +M: Sakari Ailus sakari.ailus@iki.fi +L: linux-media@vger.kernel.org +S: Maintained +F: drivers/media/i2c/adp1653.c +F: include/media/adp1653.h + ADP5520 BACKLIGHT DRIVER WITH IO EXPANDER (ADP5520/ADP5501) M: Michael Hennerich michael.hennerich@analog.com L: device-drivers-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org @@ -6685,6 +6692,15 @@ M: Nicolas Pitre nico@fluxnic.net S: Odd Fixes F: drivers/net/ethernet/smsc/smc91x.*
+SMIA AND SMIA++ IMAGE SENSOR DRIVER +M: Sakari Ailus sakari.ailus@iki.fi +L: linux-media@vger.kernel.org +S: Maintained +F: drivers/media/i2c/smiapp +F: include/media/smiapp.h +F: drivers/media/i2c/smiapp-pll.c +F: drivers/media/i2c/smiapp-pll.h + SMM665 HARDWARE MONITOR DRIVER M: Guenter Roeck linux@roeck-us.net L: lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org