On 8/15/2013 9:08 PM, Brian-Imap wrote:

On 8/15/2013 5:58 PM, Arthur wrote:
15.08.2013 18:37, Brian-Imap kirjutas:

On 8/14/2013 10:16 PM, Arthur wrote:

14.08.2013 19:01, Brian-Imap kirjutas:

On 8/11/2013 11:43 AM, Brian-Imap wrote:

On 8/8/2013 10:22 PM, Lars Hanisch wrote:

Am 08.08.2013 16:23, schrieb Brian-Imap:

On 8/7/2013 9:58 PM, Lars Hanisch wrote:

Hi,

Am 07.08.2013 21:04, schrieb Brian-Imap:

Hi,
I now a have a 4 Tuner Cine S2 setup that I want to run with 3
cables, I want to keep the fourth cable for a test VDR.
Reading about this I only see how to do it together with the
Dynamite Plugin, is that correct that I must use that
Plugin to get it to work for VDR?

I am currently running a plain VDR setup on Ubuntu, with very few
plugins and had no need for the Dynamite Plugin
up till now.

You don't really need dynamite. If you want to omit the fourth
tuner (in kernel count order), you can start vdr with
the -D parameter (see vdr --help).

vdr -D0 -D1 -D2 <other parameters as usual>

Regards,
Lars.

Cheers Brian

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Hi Lars,

OK I knew about this, but I thought that the Card/Tuners numbers
could change
from boot to boot. Are you saying that they will not change?

If it's one bridge with 4 tuners, I doubt their order will change.

You may want to read about "device bonding", where you split one
cable on two tuners so they share polarisation and
band, but may be tuned to different transponders.

But I'm a cable user, I don't know much about it, just that there
are some people out there who use it successfully. :)

Regards,
Lars.

Cheers Brian

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Hi,
thanks for the tips, unfotunately I ended up needing to keep using a
FF Card for a short while.

So I followed the CT tip and added a TT C-2300 Cable FF card that is
not connected to cable at all.
That part seems to work really well.

Using the -D parameter in VDR I limited VDR to using the first 4 DVB
Devices and this is what it gave me:

Aug 11 11:09:31 localhost vdr: [936] frontend 0/0 provides
DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK ("STV090x Multistandard")
Aug 11 11:09:31 localhost vdr: [936] frontend 1/0 provides DVB-C with
QAM16,QAM32,QAM64,QAM128,QAM256 ("ST STV0297 DVB-C")
Aug 11 11:09:31 localhost vdr: [936] frontend 2/0 provides
DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK ("STV090x Multistandard")
Aug 11 11:09:31 localhost vdr: [936] frontend 4/0 provides
DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK ("STV090x Multistandard")

So tuners 1-3 of the Cine S2 and Duoflex are now in use. DBV device 1
provides nothing but MPEG output.

I guess I'll keep an eye on the DVB device ordering for a while to see
how it goes.

Cheers Brian
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Hi,
well the DVB device numbering is not consistent:

"VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2): 15:25   [995] frontend 3/0 provides
DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"
"VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2): 15:25   [995] frontend 2/0 provides
DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"
"VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2): 15:25   [995] frontend 1/0 provides DVB-C with
QAM16,QAM32,QAM64,QAM128,QAM256 (""ST STV0297 DVB"
"VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2): 15:25   [995] frontend 0/0 provides
DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"

"VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2): 05:10   [1018] frontend 3/0 provides
DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"
"VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2): 05:10   [1018] frontend 2/0 provides DVB-C with
QAM16,QAM32,QAM64,QAM128,QAM256 (""ST STV0297 DV"
"VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2): 05:10   [1018] frontend 1/0 provides
DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"
"VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2): 05:10   [1018] frontend 0/0 provides
DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"

"VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2): 06:52   [1080] frontend 3/0 provides DVB-C with
QAM16,QAM32,QAM64,QAM128,QAM256 (""ST STV0297 DV"
"VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2): 06:52   [1080] frontend 2/0 provides
DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"
"VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2): 06:52   [1080] frontend 1/0 provides
DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"
"VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2): 06:52   [1080] frontend 0/0 provides
DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"

"VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2): 19:16   [1015] frontend 3/0 provides
DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"
"VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2): 19:16   [1015] frontend 2/0 provides
DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"
"VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2): 19:16   [1015] frontend 1/0 provides DVB-C with
QAM16,QAM32,QAM64,QAM128,QAM256 (""ST STV0297 DV"
"VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2): 19:16   [1015] frontend 0/0 provides
DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"

Up till now it has not been a problem, the one without a cable must be
4/0. Still I am wondering if this can be controlled?
Before VDR start unload the DVB drivers, then load DVBTTPCI first and
give it a short delay and then load DDBridge maybe?
Still, then is it then guaranteed that DDBridge will number its 4 tuners
correctly?

Cheers Brian

Do you tried udev rules for controlling multiple DVB device numbering?

br,
Arthur

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Arthur,
No. Please tell me how?
Cheers Brian

At the moment I don't use it, but I found it from my archive.
Attached file has been placed in the /etc/udev/rules.d folder in my Slackware PC.

br,
Arthur
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Arthur, thanks very much

I'll only get around to trying it at the weekend though.

Cheers
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Hi,
so I tried to look for some kind of info to help me identify the tuners, this is the most interesting bit I guess:

VDR-test-cellar (SDB1): udevadm info --query=all --name=/dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0 --attribute-walk
looking at device '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0d.0/0000:02:00.0/dvb/dvb1.frontend0':
    KERNEL=="dvb1.frontend0"
    SUBSYSTEM=="dvb"
    DRIVER==""

VDR-test-cellar (SDB1): udevadm info --query=all --name=/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 --attribute-walk
looking at device '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0d.0/0000:02:00.0/dvb/dvb0.frontend0':
    KERNEL=="dvb0.frontend0"
    SUBSYSTEM=="dvb"
    DRIVER==""

VDR-test-cellar (SDB1): udevadm info --query=all --name=/dev/dvb/adapter2/frontend0 --attribute-walk
looking at device '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0d.0/0000:02:00.0/dvb/dvb2.frontend0':
    KERNEL=="dvb2.frontend0"
    SUBSYSTEM=="dvb"
    DRIVER==""

VDR-test-cellar (SDB1): udevadm info --query=all --name=/dev/dvb/adapter3/frontend0 --attribute-walk
looking at device '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:06.0/0000:01:06.0/dvb/dvb3.frontend0':
    KERNEL=="dvb3.frontend0"
    SUBSYSTEM=="dvb"
    DRIVER==""

VDR-test-cellar (SDB1): udevadm info --query=all --name=/dev/dvb/adapter4/frontend0 --attribute-walk
looking at device '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0d.0/0000:02:00.0/dvb/dvb4.frontend0':
    KERNEL=="dvb4.frontend0"
    SUBSYSTEM=="dvb"
    DRIVER==""

At the moment I cannot find anything to identify the 4 Tuners on the Cine S2, the FF on 01:06 is easy.
I got hit by tuning problems a few days ago as the tuner without a cable was given FE3/0. The FF got FE4/0
at that time. I'm wondering if the DDBridge driver will always number in the correct order.

So I guess I'll try to make the FF FE0/0, and hope that the DDBRidge driver will do the rest.

Cheers Brian