[linux-dvb] Re: Patch 3 / 3 for bt8xx cards
uwe.bugla at gmx.de
Thu Apr 13 11:30:17 CEST 2006
> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: Michael Krufky <mkrufky at linuxtv.org>
> An: christophpfister at bluemail.ch
> Kopie: linux-dvb at linuxtv.org
> Betreff: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Patch 3 / 3 for bt8xx cards
> Datum: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:33:33 -0400
> christophpfister at bluemail.ch wrote:
> >>> I will not apologize for this, because it is the truth what I am
> >> Amen :)
> > We (members and developers) aren't an anarchic society. We're democratic
> > (at least I hope so - I'm not a maintainer...). So please follow rules
> > preserve a good develop environment.
> > If a patch isn't accepted by a maintainer, he has to give reasons for
> > decision. If you don't agree with his decision, you can just call for a
> vote among maintainers and nothing more.
> Thank you for your effort in trying to provide some order to this flame.
> As far as for providing reasons for patch rejection -- Yes, it would be
> nice, but it can't _always_ happen. You must remember that the people
> maintaining this subsystem are doing it in their spare time. It is far
> more useful for the maintainers to spend their time writing code and
> applying good patches instead of explaining what is wrong with the bad
> patches to people that refuse to listen to reason. <-- Now, don't quote
> me out of context here. I do agree that every rejection deserves an
> explanation, within reason. But you cannot expect anybody to respond to
> a repetitious flamer, who continually re-posts the same patch after
> being told over and over that it will not be applied.
> In this particular circumstance, the patch author is behaving in a
> hostile manner. Previous patches from this guy were rejected, and
> explanations were provided. Instead of accepting this, the author
> starts an email flame, pointing fingers at anyone imaginable. Surely
> with my comments in this thread, I am due to be the next victim.
> With that said, it should be noted that the author of this patch is
> attempting to remove the names of copyright holders from the
> documentation. His patch removes everybody's name from the bottom of
> the document, replacing with his own name. Nobody has the right to do
> this, especially not without approval from the names in question. Once
> a copyright is added, it cannot be removed, and the same hold true for
> documentation, unless agreed upon by the original copyright holder.
> In addition to the above, I really don't see any benefit to making this
> change, nor do I think this requires any further debate. The case is
> simple enough -- this same patch has been proposed repeatedly, it has
> been rejected repeatedly, and the author continues to press the issue.
> If there are parts of the documentation that really need to be changed,
> it would be a *much* better game plan to make small changes in separate
> patches. Only then can the individual changes be dealt with separately,
> and perhaps someone could be convinced to apply some parts.
> For patch guidelines, please see:
> ...and also please see README.patches from within the v4l-dvb mercurial
> Given that the author knows how everybody feels about it, I see nothing
> wrong if he feels the need to re-post his patch for each new kernel
> version. This is an open community, and it causes no harm to post a
> patch that will never be included. However, at this point, it is well
> known that the patch will not be accepted, and it has gone far beyond
> the point where an explanation should be required. The flames are
> highly inappropriate, and I ask that everyone stop wasting their time on
> this issue.
> Michael Krufky
> linux-dvb mailing list
> linux-dvb at linuxtv.org
Krufky and Abraham!
You personally ARE personal mismatches, no maintainers at all.
You aren´t even gatekeepers, you are just nothings.
You both are completely incapable stupid nuts, and it would be a real
progress to get especially YOU TWO out of this scenery here.
P. S.: The persons I prefer are capable ones like Gerd Knorr, Peter
Hettkamp, Ralph Metzler, Edgar Toernig, Bjorn Helgaas, Matthieu Castet,
Andrew Morton ...........
Those are really fine as the have a kind of class that YOU TWO will never
have, even not after the 50th reincarnation.
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