[linux-dvb] TT S2-3200 stable, CI, go or no-go?

P. van Gaans w3ird_n3rd at gmx.net
Mon Aug 13 04:27:12 CEST 2007

On 08/12/2007 11:02 AM, Manu Abraham wrote:
> On 8/12/07, P. van Gaans <w3ird_n3rd at gmx.net> wrote:
>> I know there have been some posts about the card - but I didn't see the
>> questions asked I have.
>> [story you can skip]
>> The problem is this: currently I have a KNC1 DVB-S card + cineview CI.
>> But it's breaking down, SNR appears to get worse by the day. Bad luck :'(
> Can you please get your hardware details of this card you mention ?
> Like which tuner, which PLL, which demod etc. The more detailed, the
> better.

Should I read out some of those specifications in software (if so, what 
software) or should I just get the card out and tell you all the numbers 
and stuff on it?

It's not going that fast, but over the last weeks, reception really 
seems to be getting a little worse - and it's not the dish. Reception on 
Windows is much better, but still not what it should be. I don't know if 
the reception is going backwards on Windows as well (it's been a while 
since I opened the Windows).

>> I also have a TT S-1500 with budget CI. I would use that, but the CI
>> doesn't work for no reason! Bad luck again :'(
> AFAIK, There is an experimental patch floating around which "seems to"
> fix this issue.
> Please test the patch and get back whether it fixes. you can search in
> the archives for the  S 1500 thread. Some people have reported
> success. But that is just not enough to pull it in, since applying
> that, could probably break others -- We need more testers, who get
> back with valid results.

I've found different patches. I tried the most recent, posted by Simon 
Baxter on 29/07/2007 01:06 AM, it would be written by Mark Anderson. 
When trying to patch, I see this:

patching file drivers/media/dvb/dvb-core/dvb_ca_en50221.c
Hunk #1 FAILED at 721.
Hunk #2 FAILED at 757.
2 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file 
patching file drivers/media/common/saa7146_i2c.c
Hunk #1 FAILED at 179.
Hunk #2 FAILED at 195.
Hunk #3 FAILED at 207.
Hunk #4 FAILED at 250.
4 out of 4 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file 

Do I have to try to apply them by hand? In cases like this, I prefer a 
complete file.. Thing is: the system really does not see the CI. dmesg 
says absolutely nothing, like the CI isn't there at all. No error, just 
totally nothing. I can physically disconnect the CI and report back 
exactly the same results. There is no ca0.

>> I've got a Phoenix reader, I know someone will be going to suggest that
>> - so I would put my smartcard in that - the Phoenix is OK, but it
>> refuses to init the satellite smartcard (another smartcard for cable did
>> work but that's worthless for me!) - how much bad luck can I have?
>> [/story you can skip]
>> So I have to buy a new card, and I feel it would be a waste to buy
>> another DVB-S1 card nowadays. S2 cards are not really expensive anymore.
>> So I would be perfectly happy with a TT S2-3200 that only works on
>> DVB-S1 (stable!) for the moment and with a working CI. I can perfectly
>> live with DVB-S2 support in the drivers being added at a later stage.
> I guess by here, you would be pretty frustrated. Hardware
> configuration as days pass by gets more and more complicated, not
> simpler. Gone are the days of the simple hardware.
> Users need to have some amount of patience. The developers do this
> mostly out of their free time. It is not that very simple to get
> devices working properly. Users pressurizing the developers to release
> early, brings in those half baked drivers, so a certain percentage of
> the attributes go to the users as well.
> It is not easy, when a user comes with a patch for something stating,
> well this fixes issue "x" whereas in reality the patch has got nothing
> to do with "x".
> Moreover we have had just high noise levels alone rather than useful
> talks, which hasd additional attributes for developments to crawl.

I don't want to pressurize you, that was not my intention. I know it's 
far from easy. I just had no idea where the current development was and 
wanted to know - when would anything for the S2-3200 come into hg, does 
the CI work, what's the stability ATM, I just had no idea. I just wanted 
to say I wouldn't need the S2 functionality yet. The latest files I have 
found appear to be from february, so I really had no idea.

And I'd like to say thank you, because it really is a lot of work, and 
not easy. Thank you, all developers and people who send in 
patches/drivers. Your work really is appreciated.

>> I have the feeling the answer is going to be "no", but I want to ask
>> anyway.. Could I expect this from the S2-3200 at this stage, or really
>> soon (weeks I mean)?
>> And when will S2-3200 support be added to hg?
> Most probably, if all goes well sometime next month.
> Manu

That's good news!

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