[linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

timecop timecop at gmail.com
Tue Jul 10 13:55:37 CEST 2007

On 7/10/07, Aidan Thornton <makosoft at googlemail.com> wrote:

I noticed one thing,
You sure seem to have plenty of time to argue about utterly irrelevant shit.
But you couldn't spare 5 minutes of your life to agree on accepting
this code a year ago.
I think this is purely your loss at this point, just eat it up, shut
up, stop playing lawyers, and get back to coding (or whatever you do).


> On 7/10/07, Markus Rechberger <mrechberger at gmail.com> wrote:
> > em2880-dvb and xc3028-tuner are not derived from v4l code; em28xx is
> > derived from GPL code but worthless without the other files. Also
> > people can write whatever they want as long as they don't compile it
> > and fact is that the code is still available.
> > Don't compile it against v4l-dvb and it's fine..
> > I can have whatever sourcecode I want to have on that server.
> I suspect there are all sorts of interesting legal issues here. In
> particular, the GPL is intended to cover entire works - relicensing
> individual source files in a GPLed piece of software in a
> non-GPL-compatible way when those files are intended to be combined
> with other source files which are still GPLed is a grey area at best.
> Since I'm not a lawyer, and I can't afford to hire one, this makes me
> want to not touch this code with a bargepole. I suppose I could always
> fork the GPL-licensed version, but getting it to compile with new
> kernel releases would be a real pain.
> (Incidentally, I assume that, since you say that "em2880-dvb and
> xc3028-tuner are not derived from v4l code", you rewrote em2880-dvb
> from scratch at some point. It certainly looks that way, but I know
> that I did have some code in em2880-dvb at one point.)
> > I'd appreciate if you could stop having useless discussions, a few
> > linuxtv people proved it during the last year that they aren't capable
> > of participating from the beginning on or helping at all to get
> > forward, so I'd appreciate if you could just shut up and wait for the
> > endresult.
> > Not everyone might know why I did that, people who participated at the
> > merging requests are responsible for that.
> Basically, I'm left without a working, maintained, legally sound Linux
> driver for the hardware I'm using, through no fault of my own (except
> perhaps relying on an out-of-tree driver by someone who turns out to
> be unable to co-operate with the v4l and dvb developers).
> PS. Sorry for the semi-duplicate email; accidentally forgot to send to list.
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