[linux-dvb] DVB-S2 / Multiproto and future modulation support

Christophe Thommeret hftom at free.fr
Thu Sep 11 02:01:48 CEST 2008

Le Thursday 11 September 2008 00:59:31 Andreas Oberritter, vous avez écrit :
> Hans Werner wrote:
> >> So applications could know that these 2 frontends are exclusive.
> >> That would not require any API change, but would have to be a rule
> >> followed by
> >> all drivers.
> >
> > Yes, if we keep to that rule then only frontends which can operate truly
> > simultaneously should have a different adapter number.
> An adapter refers to a self-contained piece of hardware, whose parts can
> not be used by a second adapter (e.g. adapter0/demux0 can not access the
> data from adapter1/frontend1). In a commonly used setup it means that
> adapter0 is the first initialized PCI card and adapter1 is the second.
> Now, if you want a device with two tuners that can be accessed
> simultaneously to create a second adapter, then you would have to
> artificially divide its components so that it looks like two independant
> PCI cards. This might become very complicated and limits the functions
> of the hardware.
> However, on a setup with multiple accessible tuners you can expect at
> least the same amount of accessible demux devices on the same adapter
> (and also dvr devices for that matter). There is an ioctl to connect a
> frontend to a specific demux (DMX_SET_SOURCE).
> So, if there are demux0, frontend0 and frontend1, then the application
> knows that it can't use both frontends simultaneously. Otherwise, if 
> there are demux0, demux1, frontend0 and frontend1, then it can use both
> of them (by using both demux devices and connecting them to the
> frontends via the ioctl mentioned above).

Sounds logical. And that's why Kaffeine search for frontend/demux/dvr > 0 and 
uses demux1 with frontend1. (That was just a guess since i've never seen 
neither any such devices nor comments/recommendations/rules about such case).

However, all dual tuners devices drivers i know expose the 2 frontends as 
frontend0 in separate adapters. But all these devices seems to be USB.

The fact that Kaffeine works with the experimental hvr4000 driver indicates 
that this driver populates frontend1/demux1/dvr1 and then doesn't follow the 
way you describe (since the tuners can't be used at once).
I would like to hear from Steve on this point.

Christophe Thommeret

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