[vdr] VDR Development

Volker Schierz schierz at vschierz.de
Fri Sep 5 18:00:23 CEST 2008

Every Year the same discussion!

Klaus has already pointed out his side of view for several times!
And I would act like him. 

In some kind it is a Open Project. Just take the sources and enhance them. 
If it's meanfull and well done, Klaus will surely adopt it into VDR.
you can patch the new Version with the enhancement and no one will blame you
for that.

But! Coordinating such a Team is some thing that needs time, for itselfe.
But all thouse discussions, 
about the priority of a "feature" should be done befor coding starts. 
If there is a repository I strongly believe there are some people setting
there own
Priority, doing things they like to do. And afterwards, someone has to clean
up the mess.

I did not always agree with Klaus and his task list but! Show me some peace
of software 
in that dimension that works such stable if it is declared to be stable. 

aka vdrmojo

P.S.: Let them check out MythTV or something else. We'll welcome them soon.
And if not? So what?

-----Original Message-----
From: vdr-bounces at linuxtv.org [mailto:vdr-bounces at linuxtv.org] On Behalf Of
Sent: Freitag, 5. September 2008 17:30
To: VDR Mailing List
Subject: Re: [vdr] VDR Development

Yes, it's great idea to create the repositary for VDR


-----Original Message-----
From: Vladimir Kangin <v at kangin.org>
To: VDR Mailing List <vdr at linuxtv.org>
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:21:23 +0300
Subject: Re: [vdr] VDR Development

> If it would be helpful for the project VDR we can contribute by 
> setting up server at our DC. We are supporting LinuxMCE distro and 
> also want to help to VDR as a part of LinuxMCE project.
> Best regards,
> Vladimir
> On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 08:02 -0700, VDR User wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Magnus Hörlin <magnus at alefors.se> wrote:
> > > Of course you can fork it, and I'm sure someone eventually will, 
> > > but I think you should regard it as a totally different project 
> > > and give it some other name. This would lead to plugin developers 
> > > having to decide which project(s) to support and it will probably just
be a mess.
> > > I think VDR is Klaus's "child" and should remain so.
> > 
> > Woah, wait a minute here!  Nobody is suggesting to take VDR away 
> > from Klaus!  There are clearly some good coders who want to continue 
> > helping progress VDR along as they already have been.  The last 
> > released VDR update (1.7.0) was made 144 days ago.  Everything 
> > people needed from VDR before still holds except not much 
> > development has been done and VDR hasn't moved forward.  As much as 
> > I hate to say it, this is one of the main reasons so many users have 
> > abandoned VDR in favor of MythTV and other software.
> > 
> > Again, nobody is suggesting to take VDR from Klaus.. Just simply 
> > allow progress to be made without these huge gaps where nothing 
> > happens where the users continue to be left in the cold while VDR 
> > continues to be left behind.  Surely there are coders "worthy" of 
> > Klaus's 'coding approval' and if he doesn't want to work on VDR 
> > directly, it would still allow those that do to move forward and he 
> > can review the code rather then write it.  Or have a dev tree and 
> > main tree.  People can work on dev tree and what Klaus "approves" of 
> > could be adopted into main tree.
> > 
> > Let's be clear... I've been a huge advocate for VDR.  I do not want 
> > to see the project die, nor do I enjoy watching so many users abandon
> >  However, when much needed changes aren't made, what do you expect 
> > people to do?  I can promise I didn't bring this topic up again to 
> > cause a problem.  Only to point out that VDR is in need of help and 
> > there must be some way to move forward.  Especially for the guys who 
> > are ready & willing!


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