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This is my sandbox. Being a sandbox, everything you see here is a work in progress. However, my intention should be pretty clear from the content.
This is my sandbox. Being a sandbox, everything you see here is a work in progress.


==But if my intention isn't clear, here's what I propose:==
* Unification
* avoid duplication of effort, more efficient
* One stop shop
* More user friendly, spawn more interest
* more info (beyond supported -- spawns interest in new projects?)
* Co-ordination - / oversight ... reaching critical mass
* Reduce fragmentation -- common problem
* USB example of insanity


* User Accounts / Logons
* Exporting History and discussions -- preserve


==Wiki Main Page:==
* more inviting (web and wiki)
[[Image:Graphic_banner_rough_idea_test3.png]]
* branding (common)
* unified look and feel
* new features - like sortable tables, news (web, for kernel updates, discussions)




== User Sign up /Login Subpage:==
==Wiki Main Page==
'''A Few Notes Before you Begin'''
__NOTOC__
__NOEDITSECTION__


Before you jump in and make your contribution, please first familiarize yourself with the layout of the site. Doing so will help you to place your information in the right location. As the wiki grows, it takes an increasing amount of effort and discipline to keep it from quickly turning into a tangled mess. So it's up to each of us to make sure the information submitted is easy for everybody to find and access.
<div style="background-color:#6289AB; padding:0.3em; color:#ffffff; font-weight:bold; font-size:150%; text-align:center">
Welcome to the LinuxTV Wiki !
</div>
{|valign=top background=none
|valign=top|
<div style="vertical-align:top; margin:0; border:1px solid #6289AB; padding:0.5em; background-color:#ffffff">


If you make a contibution and later find that your submission has been edited or moved to another area of the wiki, please don't
'''''this welcome section is way toooooo wordy. it needs to be cut down to be short and sweet'''''
feel offended. Everyone understands and appreciates the time and efforts you took, but bear in mind that a factual and well-organized resource for everyone interested in analog or digital TV is the ultimate aim of the LinuxTV wiki.


Submitters should also know that, to keep the information contained in the wiki free, all contributions are automatically licensed under the GNU General Public License GPL. If you wish, you may specify in each case that your contribution is dual-licensed under the MIT License. Please do not reproduce or submit copyrighted works without obtaining the express consent of the owner or its agent.
This wiki is intended to serve as a community focus and reference source for the projects covered under the LinuxTV umbrella/framework. It is hoped that this Wiki will, in time, become an authoritative source of information and support regarding the use of [[analog TV|analog]] video and [[digital TV]] sources on Linux.


Lastly, to help keep the wiki free from spam, contributors are required to set up an account and to sign in before they can post to the wiki. (This is a painless process that only takes a few seconds). To sign up an
Whether that goal is achieved depends very much upon fellow users and developers such as yourself. Like all other wikis, the LinuxTV wiki relies upon the contributions of its users, and therefore will only be as useful as we make it. As every user of LinuxTV is bound to know something useful in relation to the project's coverage, we encourage you to help with the task of turning this site into a repository of knowledge.


Now enjoy and have fun! -- The LinuxTV WikiTeam [People behind V4L]
Whether it be by providing a set of instructions for how to get a certain device working; a minor improvement to an existing article; or an explanation for some complex concept -- whatever knowledge you can provide will be highly appreciated. Help ensure that your expertise acquired through dedication and hard work doesn't get lost in the ether, but can instead be passed on to new developers and users alike, and can help to keep free software thriving.


====Before you Begin====
But before you jump in and make your contribution, please first familiarize yourself with the layout of the site. Doing so will likely help you place your information in the right location. As the wiki grows, it takes an increasing amount of effort and discipline to keep it from quickly turning into a tangled mess. So it's up to each of us to make sure the information submitted is easy for everybody to find and access.


That said, it is important not to feel offended if, by chance, your contribution is moved to another area of the wiki or if the contents of your entry are edited. Everyone understands and appreciates the time and efforts you took, but bear in mind that a factual and well-organized resource for everyone interested in analog or digital TV is the ultimate aim of the LinuxTV wiki.
Submitters should also know that, to keep the information contained in the wiki free, all contributions are automatically licensed under the GNU General Public License [http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html GPL]. If you wish, you may specify in each case that your contribution is dual-licensed under the [http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.html MIT License]. Please do not reproduce or submit copyrighted works without obtaining the express consent of the owner or its agent.


==[[Image:Software_viewing_apps_icon.png|50px]] TV Related Software SubPage:==
Lastly, to help keep the wiki free from spam, contributors are required to set up an account and to sign in before they can post to the wiki. (This is a painless process that only takes a few seconds).


It would seem that, instead of re-inventing the wheel, the existing [[TV Related Software]] page is an ideal candidate to be reworked as the TV Software SubPage
Now enjoy and have fun! -- ''The LinuxTV WikiTeam'' [[People behind V4L]]


'''TV related items/issues''' that should be addressed are:
* scanning
* tuning/zapping
* watching/recording
* teletex/CC


* streaming
We want to aggregate information about available hardware, v4l experiences, HOWTOs, and technical information about the workings of v4l devices work, hardware quirks, software applications
''The basic plan is to collect facts about available hardware, v4l or dvb experiences, HOWTOs, encyclopedia-like information and explanations about how v4l and dvb work, what an [[EPG]] is and so on,
Save and share knowledge.'' '''
</div>




distinguish between tuner/tuning/to tune/receiver ...
{| width=100%
in contemporary dialogue/common language:
|
the terms "tuner" and "receiver" are often used interchangeably ... but its more appropriate to call it a receiver, with the tuner being part of the receiver
{| cellspacing=5 cellpadding=5 border=0 width=100%
|[[Image:User_Info_icon.png|50px]]
|'''[[User info]]'''<br><small>How to install your hardware, and software to use it with
|[[Image:Hardware_icon.png|50px]]
|'''[[Hardware & Components]]'''<br><small>Information on Hardware devices and related components
|-
|-
|-
|[[Image:Technical_background_icon.png|50px]]
|'''[[Technical Background & Developer Page|Technical Background]]'''<br><small>Technical details, standards, etc
|[[Image:Developer_icon.png|50px]]
|'''[[Technical Background & Developer Page|Developer Section]]'''<br><small>Information to help device driver development
|-
|-
|-
|[[Image:V4l_label.png|50px]]
|'''[[V4L Links]]'''<br><small>Misc V4L related links
|[[Image:DVB_label.png|50px]]
|'''[[DVB Links]]'''<br><small>Misc DVB related links
|}
| width=255 |
{| border="1" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5; style="background:#F7F9FB;" width=100%
|[[Image:More_info.png|50px|]]<big>'''Other Sources of Info'''</big><BR>
<small>If you didn't find what you were looking for in the wiki,try searching:<BR>
* the [http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-video V4L mailing list archives]
* the [DVB mailing list archives]
Or asking your unanswered question on the mailing lists ([https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/video4linux-list v4l mailing list] and
[DVB mailing list]). Don't leave your question on the wiki -- ask on the mailing list!<BR>
More immediate help may also be sought on the relevant irc channel (hosted on irc.freenode.net). See:
* the #v4l irc channel (for analog device discussion)
* the #linuxtv irc channel (for dvb device discussion)
Hopefully someone there will be able to help you!</small>
|}
|}


[[tuning]]
In electronics, tuning refers to a process in which, first, a specific [[RF]] signal is acquired and, second, is subsequently acted upon such that any underlying content (information/data) may be extracted.


One may "tune" to a specific frequency and find that there is no underlining content to be found -- in the context of radio or TV signal reception, this would be characteristic of static or white noise.


in which case the RF carrier signal
==[[Image:User_Info_icon.png|50px]] User Info Page==
list of known frequencies or obtained via a frequency scan
__NOTOC__
__NOEDITSECTION__


<div style="margin:0; border:1px solid #6289AB; padding:0.5em; background-color:#F7F9FB;">
{|valign=top cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 width=100%
|valign=top bgcolor=#F7F9FB width=30%|
* '''Tutorials, Howtos, Usage Info & Guides:'''
** [[Overview of TV/video on Linux]]
** [[How to install DVB]]
** [[First steps with a DVB card]]
** [[Example setup]]s and [[Use cases]] by country
** [[FAQ]]


* '''Software and Usage''' * '''Applications'''
** [[software|Commented software list]], including:
** Applications to watch TV ** [[TV Viewing]] ** [[TV Recording]]
*** [[Kaffeine]]
*** [[Klear]]
*** [[Mplayer]]
*** [[Xine]]
*** [[XdTV]]
** Full Media Centers
*** [[VDR]]
*** [[MythTV]]
*** [[Freevo]]
*** [[GeeXboX]]
** show Videotext/Teletext ** [[Text capture]] (Teletext/Closed Captioning)
*** [[alevt]]
** Tools for testing, tuning, streaming ** [[Streaming]]
*** [[femon]]
*** [[scan|(dvb)scan]]
*** [[zap|{a,s,c,t}zap]]
*** [[dvbstream]]
** Tools for unattended/headless recording
*** [[dvbrecord]]
*** [[dvbd]]
** Howto record [[multiple programs]] at once
** [[Post-processing]] of recorded material


|}
</div>


==Just toying ==
Would like to try to setup a table for the chipsets using templates such that, with using logic to define relevant fields, we have all the data contained in one spot (I guess much like Henrik was doing with the DVB-T USB stuff), but can then parse the info for display in relevant articles, such that there isn't duplication. Present duplication example:
* [[USB interface chipsets]]
* [[Demodulator#Digital_Demodulators|Demodulator]]


{| class="wikitable sortable"

|+'''A Sortable List of Chipsets'''
==[[Image:Hardware_icon.png|50px]] Hardware & Components Page==
__NOTOC__
__NOEDITSECTION__

<div style="margin:0; border:1px solid #6289AB; padding:0.5em; background-color:#F7F9FB;">
{|valign=top cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 width=100%




|valign=top bgcolor=#F7F9FB width=30%|
|valign=top bgcolor=#F7F9FB width=30%|
[[Image:Chipset_icon.png|50px]]'''Chipsets'''
* [[Tuners]]
* [[Audio Decoders]]
* [[Interface chipsets]] used for DVB devices
** [[PCI interface chipsets used for v4l cards]]
* [[Hard- or Software Decoder?]]
* [[Hardware vs software encoders]]
|valign=top bgcolor=#F7F9FB width=30%|
|-
|-
! Vendor !! Chipset !! style="background-color:#ffffcc;" | Tuner !! style="background-color:#B0C4DE;"| Analog <br>Demodulator !! style="background-color:#B0C4DE;" | Digital<br> Demodulator !! style="background-color:#B0C4DE;" | Standard !! style="background-color:#B0C4DE;" | Modulation<br>Schemes !! A/V <br> decoder !! MPEG <br>encoder !! MPEG<br>decoder !! style="background-color:#F08080;"| Interface<br> chipset !! style="background-color:#F08080;"|Bridge <br> Type !! style="background-color:#F08080;"|DVB <br>support !! style="background-color:#F5DEB3;"| Linux <br>Support !! style="background-color:#F5DEB3;" | Associated <br>Kernel Modules !! style="background-color:#F5DEB3;" | Firmware !! class="unsortable"| Comments
|colspan=3|<hr>
|-
| [[Afatech]] || [[Afatech AF9005|AF9005]] || {{No}} || {{No}} || {{Yes}} || [[DVB-T]] || [[COFDM]] || {{No}} || {{No}} || {{No}} || {{Yes}} || [[USB]] || {{Yes}} || {{Yes}} || ? || {{Yes}} ||
* A combo USB bridge & demod IC
|-
|-
|valign=top bgcolor=#F7F9FB |[[Image:V4l_label.png|50px]] '''Analog Devices'''
* Video via PCI
* Video via PCI Express
* Video via USB
* Video via PC104
* Graphics cards with TV tuner
* Other devices
|valign=center bgcolor=#F7F9FB width=30%|
<BR>
<BR>
* [[DVB receiver vendors|Devices sorted by Vendor]]
** [[v4l card vendors]]
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
[[Image:Peripheral_components_icon.png|50px]] '''Peripheral Components and Hardware Modifications'''
* [[Sat antenna]]
* [[DVB-T antenna]]
* [[DVB Conditional Access Modules]]
* [[DD receiver|Dolby Digital receiver]]
* [[Remote Controllers]]
** [[Remote controllers]]
* [[User Modifications to Supported Devices]]
|valign=top bgcolor=#F7F9FB |[[Image:DVB_label.png|50px]] '''DVB Devices'''<br>
* [[DVB-S_devices|DVB-S devices]]
* [[DVB-T_devices|DVB-T devices]]
* [[DVB-C_devices|DVB-C devices]]
* [[ATSC_devices|ATSC devices]]
** [[ Kworld ATSC-110 ]]
* Also see these articles (info to be mergered into the appropriate sections above):
** [[DVB USB|DVB/ATSC USB boxes sorted by driver]]
** [[DVB at the USB bus]]
** [[Em2880]] (USB Analog+DVB-T)
** [[Supported DVB cards]]
<BR><BR>
* '''Pre-configured DVB Systems and Set Top Hardware'''<BR>
... is this section even necessary ??


|}
|}
</div>




==Misc Info & ideas for me:==


'''Timestamp'''
----
* <nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki>


'''Colours'''
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_colors Web colours]
* v4l --> style="background-color:#006600;
* DVB --> style="background-color:#6289AB;


'''Sub pages'''


'''Tables'''
* [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tables table formating]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_markup Table_markup]
<br>
style="color:green; background-color:#ffffcc;"<br>
style="color:#e76700;"<br>
style="background-color:# ;"



'''Analog Devices'''

* '''Video via PCI'''
** [[List survey of cards in use now]]
** [[bttv devices (bt848, bt878)]]
*** [[btaudio (bt878)]]
** [[Matrox Meteor II cards]] (not working)
** [[Saa713x devices|saa713x devices (saa713x)]]
*** [[saa7134-alsa]]
** [[saa7146 devices]]
** [[cx88 devices (cx2388x) ]]
** [[ivtv devices (cx23415, cx23416)]]
** [[zoran devices (zr36057, zr36067)]]
** [[zoran devices (zr36120, zr36125)]]

* '''Video via PCI Express'''
** [[saa7162 devices]] (not yet supported)
** [[nGene devices]] (not supported)

* '''Video via USB'''
** [[USBVideo]] Request support for USB Video devices
** [[Em2820]] (USB Analog only)
** [[USBVision devices]]
** [[DiBcom USB devices]]
** [[OmniVision USB devices (OV511, etc)]]

* '''Video via PC104'''
** [[Sensoray devices]]

* '''Graphics cards with TV tuner'''
** [[ATI/AMD]]
** [[NVIDIA]]

* '''Other devices'''
** [[Radio]]s
** [[Webcams]]
** [[Scanners]]
** [[Loopback]]


'''DVB'''
* '''Pre-configured Systems and Set Top Hardware'''
** [[Examples of hardware]]
** [[Barebones and bundles]]
** [[Commercial solutions]]
*** [[VDR-based STBs]]
*** [[MythTV STBs]]
*** [[Enigma on the dbox2]]
*** [[Neutrino on the dbox2]]
*** [[Enigma on the Dreambox]]
** [[Streaming clients]]



==[[Image:Technical_background_icon.png|50px]] Technical Background & Developers Page [[Image:Developer_icon.png|50px]]==
__NOTOC__
__NOEDITSECTION__

<div style="margin:0; border:1px solid #6289AB; padding:0.5em; background-color:#F7F9FB;">
{|valign=top cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 width=100%
|valign=top bgcolor=#F7F9FB |
[[Image:Technical_background_icon.png|50px|]] '''Technical Background'''
* [http://users.pandora.be/educypedia/electronics/television.htm TV Encyclopedia]
* [[Analog TV]] * [http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/WorldTV/ Analog TV]
* [[Digital TV]]
** [[DVB Standard]]
* [[Modulation Scheme]]s used for Analog and Digital TV
* [[MPEG2 Standard]]
* [[Anatomy of a v4l device]] | [[Anatomy of a DVB device]]
* [[i2c Protocol]] * [http://www.esacademy.com/faq/i2c/ i2c Protocol]
* [[GPIO pins]]
* [[Radio Data System (RDS)]]
* [[DSM-CC ObjectCarousel Protocol]]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DiSEqC DiSEqC Protocol]

|valign=top bgcolor=#F7F9FB |
[[Image:Developer_icon.png|50px|]] '''Developer Section'''
* [[Video4linux APIs]] | [[Linux DVB API Version 4]]
* [[DVB API history and future]]
* [[Anatomy of a v4l driver]] | [[Anatomy of a LinuxTV driver]]
* [[Bug Report|File a Bug Report]] * [[How to write good problem report |How to write a good problem report]]
* [[How to add support for a new card]]
* [[How to build from mercurial|How to build from v4l mercurial]]
** [[How_to_submit_patches |How to submit patches]]
** [[Maintaining mercurial trees]]
* [[Code Review|Invitation for Code Review]]
* [[Hints for Refactoring existing DVB drivers]]
* [[The DVB Decoder Challenge]]
* [[TODO - main tasks]]<BR>
** '''Kernel Development'''
*** [[SubmittingPatches | Rules for submitting patches]]
*** [[Documentation/SubmittingDrivers | Rules for submitting drivers]]
*** [[Documentation/CodingStyle | Coding Style]]
*** [http://jungla.dit.upm.es/%7Ejmseyas/linux/kernel/hackers-docs.html Documentation index]
*** [http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb Master v4l development repository]
*** [http://www.kernel.org/git/gitweb.cgi?p=linux/kernel/git/mchehab/v4l-dvb.git;a=log Current git log]

|}
</div>


==Misc Info & ideas for me==


'''Icons wanted''':
'''Icons wanted''':
* need to find or create a chain link icon for "links"
* remote control
* * terrestrial broadcast tower
* television (for software section)
* terrestrial broadcast tower
* sat dish
* sat dish
* * pcmcia
* usb
* pcmcia
* pci
* pci
* pcie
* pcie
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'''Colours'''
'''Special Links'''
* Works: [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:Special:Allpages|{{ns:100}}}} {{ns:100}}]
* v4l --> style="background-color:#006600;
* Doesn't work: {{Note|[{{SERVER}}{{localurl:Special:Allpages|{{ns:100}}}} {{ns:100}}]}} ... stupid wiki.
* DVB --> style="background-color:#6289AB;
* also see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Plainlinks




'''Clickable Icons or Images using templates'''
'''Formating'''
* http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageLink
* Why are no breaks showing up before and after the colspan in the Hardware page?
* http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap

* http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Icon <--- ***

* http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Click (depreciated)
'''Stupid templates'''
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Click-Inline

{| width=100%
|
{| cellspacing=5 cellpadding=5 border=0 width=100%
|width=48|{{Click || image=User_info_icon.png | link=User_info | width=48px | height=48px }}
|'''[[User_info]]'''<br><small>How to install your hardware, and software to use it with
|width=48|{{Click || image=Hardware_icon.png | link=:Hardware_&_Components | width=48px | height=48px }}
|'''[[Hardware_&_Components]]'''<br><small>Information on Hardware devices and related components
|-
|width=48|{{Click || image=Technical_background_icon.png | link=Technical_Background_&_Developer_Page | width=48px | height=48px }}
|'''[[Technical_Background_&_Developer_Page]]'''<br><small>Technical details, standards, etc
|width=48|{{Click || image=Developer_icon.png | link=Technical_Background_&_Developer_Page | width=48px | height=48px }}
|'''[[Technical_Background_&_Developer_Page]]'''<br><small>Information to help device driver development
|}

Latest revision as of 07:31, 11 March 2012

This is my sandbox. Being a sandbox, everything you see here is a work in progress.


Wiki Main Page:

Graphic banner rough idea test3.png


User Sign up /Login Subpage:

A Few Notes Before you Begin

Before you jump in and make your contribution, please first familiarize yourself with the layout of the site. Doing so will help you to place your information in the right location. As the wiki grows, it takes an increasing amount of effort and discipline to keep it from quickly turning into a tangled mess. So it's up to each of us to make sure the information submitted is easy for everybody to find and access.

If you make a contibution and later find that your submission has been edited or moved to another area of the wiki, please don't feel offended. Everyone understands and appreciates the time and efforts you took, but bear in mind that a factual and well-organized resource for everyone interested in analog or digital TV is the ultimate aim of the LinuxTV wiki.

Submitters should also know that, to keep the information contained in the wiki free, all contributions are automatically licensed under the GNU General Public License GPL. If you wish, you may specify in each case that your contribution is dual-licensed under the MIT License. Please do not reproduce or submit copyrighted works without obtaining the express consent of the owner or its agent.

Lastly, to help keep the wiki free from spam, contributors are required to set up an account and to sign in before they can post to the wiki. (This is a painless process that only takes a few seconds). To sign up an

Now enjoy and have fun! -- The LinuxTV WikiTeam [People behind V4L]


Software viewing apps icon.png TV Related Software SubPage:

It would seem that, instead of re-inventing the wheel, the existing TV Related Software page is an ideal candidate to be reworked as the TV Software SubPage

TV related items/issues that should be addressed are:

  • scanning
  • tuning/zapping
  • watching/recording
  • teletex/CC
  • streaming


distinguish between tuner/tuning/to tune/receiver ... in contemporary dialogue/common language: the terms "tuner" and "receiver" are often used interchangeably ... but its more appropriate to call it a receiver, with the tuner being part of the receiver

tuning In electronics, tuning refers to a process in which, first, a specific RF signal is acquired and, second, is subsequently acted upon such that any underlying content (information/data) may be extracted.

One may "tune" to a specific frequency and find that there is no underlining content to be found -- in the context of radio or TV signal reception, this would be characteristic of static or white noise.

in which case the RF carrier signal list of known frequencies or obtained via a frequency scan



Just toying

Would like to try to setup a table for the chipsets using templates such that, with using logic to define relevant fields, we have all the data contained in one spot (I guess much like Henrik was doing with the DVB-T USB stuff), but can then parse the info for display in relevant articles, such that there isn't duplication. Present duplication example:

A Sortable List of Chipsets
Vendor Chipset Tuner Analog
Demodulator		 Digital
Demodulator		 Standard Modulation
Schemes		 A/V
decoder		 MPEG
encoder		 MPEG
decoder		 Interface
chipset		 Bridge
Type		 DVB
support		 Linux
Support		 Associated
Kernel Modules		 Firmware Comments
Afatech AF9005 ✘ No ✘ No ✔ Yes DVB-T COFDM ✘ No ✘ No ✘ No ✔ Yes USB ✔ Yes ✔ Yes ? ✔ Yes
  • A combo USB bridge & demod IC


Misc Info & ideas for me:

Timestamp

  • ~~~~~

Colours

  • Web colours
  • v4l --> style="background-color:#006600;
  • DVB --> style="background-color:#6289AB;


Tables


style="color:green; background-color:#ffffcc;"
style="color:#e76700;"
style="background-color:# ;"


Icons wanted:

  • need to find or create a chain link icon for "links"
  • * terrestrial broadcast tower
  • sat dish
  • * pcmcia
  • pci
  • pcie
  • firewire


Special Links


Clickable Icons or Images using templates

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