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| '''Manufacturer''' || '''Model''' || '''Frontend''' || '''Bridge Interface''' || '''8VSB''' || '''QAM''' || '''NTSC''' || '''Comp/S-video''' || '''Analog CC''' || '''PID filtering'''<sup id="fn_3_back">[[#fn_3|3]]</sup> || '''List Price'''<sup id="fn_7_back">[[#fn_7|7]]</sup>
| '''Vendor''' / '''Model''' || '''Frontend''' || '''Bridge Interface''' || '''8VSB''' || '''QAM''' || '''NTSC''' || '''Comp/S-video''' || '''Analog CC''' || '''PID filtering'''<sup id="fn_3_back">[[#fn_3|3]]</sup>
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| '''ATI''' ||style="background:#FFDEAD;"| '''HDTV Wonder''' || nxt2004 || cx23882 || yes || no<sup id="fn_6_back">[[#fn_6|6]]</sup> || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> || sw || $119
|style="background:#FFDEAD;" - align="right"|'''ATI HDTV Wonder'''|| nxt2004 || cx23882 || yes || no<sup id="fn_1_back">[[#fn_1|1]]</sup> || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> || sw
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| '''AverMedia''' ||style="background:#FFDEAD;"| '''AVerTV HD A180''' || nxt2004 || saa7135 || yes || yes || no || yes || ? || sw || $109<sup id="fn_9_back">[[#fn_9|9]]</sup>
|style="background:#FFDEAD;" - align="right"|'''AverMedia AVerTV HD A180'''|| nxt2004 || saa7135 || yes || yes || no || yes || ? || sw
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| '''BBTI/Technisat''' ||style="background:#FFDEAD;"| '''Air2PC''' (1st) || bcm3510 || flexcop || yes || no || no || no || no || hw || $40<sup id="fn_8_back">[[#fn_8|8]]</sup>
|style="background:#FFDEAD;" - align="right"|'''BBTI/Technisat Air2PC''' (1st)|| bcm3510 || flexcop || yes || no || no || no || no || hw
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|style="background:white;"| ||style="background:#FFDEAD;"| '''Air2PC''' (2nd) || nxt2002 || flexcop || yes || no<sup id="fn_5_back">[[#fn_5|5]]</sup> || no || no || no || hw || N/A
|style="background:#FFDEAD;" - align="right"|'''Air2PC''' (2nd)|| nxt2002 || flexcop || yes || no<sup id="fn_5_back">[[#fn_5|5]]</sup> || no || no || no || hw
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|style="background:white;"| ||style="background:#FFDEAD;"| '''AirStar HD5000''' || lgdt3303 || flexcop || yes || yes || no || no || no || hw || $99
|style="background:#FFDEAD;" - align="right"|'''AirStar HD5000'''|| lgdt3303 || flexcop || yes || yes || no || no || no || hw
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| '''Dvico''' ||style="background:#FFDEAD;"| '''FusionHDTV3 Gold-Q''' || lgdt3302 || cx23882 || yes || yes || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> || sw || N/A
|style="background:#FFDEAD;" - align="right"|'''Dvico FusionHDTV3 Gold-Q'''|| lgdt3302 || cx23882 || yes || yes || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> || sw
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|style="background:white;"| ||style="background:#FFDEAD;"| '''FusionHDTV3 Gold-T''' || lgdt3302 || cx23882 || yes || yes || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> || sw || N/A
|style="background:#FFDEAD;" - align="right"|'''FusionHDTV3 Gold-T'''|| lgdt3302 || cx23882 || yes || yes || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> || sw
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|style="background:white;"| ||style="background:#FFDEAD;"| '''FusionHDTV5 Lite''' || lgdt3303 || bt878 || yes || yes || yes || yes<sup id="fn_1_back">[[#fn_1|1]]</sup> || yes || sw || $89
|style="background:#FFDEAD;" - align="right"|'''FusionHDTV5 Lite'''|| lgdt3303 || bt878 || yes || yes || yes || yes<sup id="fn_6_back">[[#fn_6|6]]</sup> || yes || sw
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|style="background:white;"| ||style="background:#FFDEAD;"| '''FusionHDTV5 Gold''' || lgdt3303 || cx23882 || yes || yes || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> || sw || $149
|style="background:#FFDEAD;" - align="right"|'''FusionHDTV5 Gold'''|| lgdt3303 || cx23882 || yes || yes || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> || sw
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|style="background:white;"| ||style="background:#FFDEAD;"| '''FusionHDTV5 USB Gold''' || lgdt3303 || Cypress FX2LP || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_4_back">[[#fn_4|4]]</sup> || no<sup id="fn_4_back">[[#fn_4|4]]</sup> || ? || sw || $149
|style="background:#FFDEAD;" - align="right"|'''FusionHDTV5 USB Gold'''|| lgdt3303 || Cypress FX2LP || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_4_back">[[#fn_4|4]]</sup> || no<sup id="fn_4_back">[[#fn_4|4]]</sup> || ? || sw
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| '''Kworld''' ||style="background:#FFDEAD;"| '''ATSC 110''' || nxt2004 || saa7135 || yes || yes || yes || yes || ? || sw || ~$70
|style="background:#FFDEAD;" - align="right"|'''Kworld ATSC 110'''|| nxt2004 || saa7135 || yes || yes || yes || yes || ? || sw
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| '''pcHDTV''' ||style="background:#FFDEAD;"| '''HD-2000''' || or511xx || bt878? || yes || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? | sw || N/A
|style="background:#FFDEAD;" - align="right"|'''pcHDTV HD-2000'''|| or511xx || bt878? || yes || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? | sw
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|style="background:white;"| ||style="background:#FFDEAD;"| '''HD-3000''' || or51132|| cx23882 || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> || sw || N/A
|style="background:#FFDEAD;" - align="right"|'''HD-3000'''|| or51132|| cx23882 || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> || sw
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|style="background:white;"| ||style="background:#FFDEAD;"| '''HD-5500''' || lgdt3303 || cx23883 || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || sw || $129
|style="background:#FFDEAD;" - align="right"|'''HD-5500'''|| lgdt3303 || cx23883 || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || sw
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| '''SKY Digital''' ||style="background:#FFDEAD;"| '''SKY-HDTV''' || lgdt3303 || cx23881 || yes || yes || yes || yes || ? || sw || ~$80
|style="background:#FFDEAD;" - align="right"|'''SKY Digital SKY-HDTV'''|| lgdt3303 || cx23881 || yes || yes || yes || yes || ? || sw
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<cite id="fn_1">[[#fn_1_back|Note 1:]] </cite> Has a working comp/s-video port hidden behind the card-plate.<br>
<cite id="fn_1">[[#fn_1_back|Note 1:]] </cite> Some may have had sucess. Recent attempts using currently shipping boards have failed<br>
<cite id="fn_2">[[#fn_2_back|Note 2:]] </cite> The 5500 analog CC works, so the 3000 should too, but I haven't verified the 3000 personally. If you have, please remove this note.<br>
<cite id="fn_2">[[#fn_2_back|Note 2:]] </cite> The 5500 analog CC works, so the 3000 should too, but I haven't verified the 3000 personally. If you have, please remove this note.<br>
<cite id="fn_3">[[#fn_3_back|Note 3:]] </cite> 'hw' = hardware, 'sw' = software. Hardware PID filtering allows the card to discard unwanted packets. This typically amounts to saving <10% of the bitrate of a 8-VSB or QAM-64 broadcast, and >55% of the bitrate of a QAM-256 broadcast.<br>
<cite id="fn_3">[[#fn_3_back|Note 3:]] </cite> 'hw' = hardware, 'sw' = software. Hardware PID filtering allows the card to discard unwanted packets. This typically amounts to saving <10% of the bitrate of a 8-VSB or QAM-64 broadcast, and >55% of the bitrate of a QAM-256 broadcast.<br>
<cite id="fn_4">[[#fn_4_back|Note 4:]] </cite> Hardware should allow it, but the driver has no support yet.<br>
<cite id="fn_4">[[#fn_4_back|Note 4:]] </cite> Hardware should allow it, but the driver has no support yet.<br>
<cite id="fn_5">[[#fn_5_back|Note 5:]] </cite> The demodulator supports QAM-64/256, but the tuner can't handle cable frequencies.<br>
<cite id="fn_5">[[#fn_5_back|Note 5:]] </cite> The demodulator supports QAM-64/256, but the tuner can't handle cable frequencies.<br>
<cite id="fn_6">[[#fn_6_back|Note 6:]] </cite> Some may have had sucess. Recent attempts using currently shipping boards have failed<br>
<cite id="fn_6">[[#fn_6_back|Note 6:]] </cite> Has a working comp/s-video port hidden behind the card-plate.<br>
<cite id="fn_7">[[#fn_7_back|Note 7:]] </cite> Prices shown in $US, rounded to the nearest $1, as found on the web on 2006-07-17. I didn't bother with the discontinued ones (shown "N/A"), as prices will vary on eBay.<br>
<cite id="fn_8">[[#fn_8_back|Note 8:]] </cite> eBay price as of 2006-08-24.<br>
<cite id="fn_9">[[#fn_9_back|Note 9:]] </cite> Model shown on web site "MTVHDA180" is the "AVerMedia AVerTVHD™ MCE A180 (white box)"; Price includes typical shipping.


==Air2PC==
==Air2PC==

Revision as of 16:47, 3 February 2007

As of right now there are 14 confirmed working devices. (There are also a few DVB cards requiring definition that have not been confirmed to work).

  • The pcHDTV HD-3000 card
  • The pcHDTV HD-5500 card
  • The air2pc (1st gen)
  • The air2pc (2nd gen)
  • The air2pc hd5000 (3rd gen)
  • The DViCO FusionHDTV 3 GOLD-Q
  • The DViCO FusionHDTV 3 GOLD-T
  • The DViCO FusionHDTV 5 GOLD
  • The DViCO FusionHDTV 5 LITE
  • The DViCO FusionHDTV 5 USB GOLD
  • The ATi HDTV Wonder
  • The AVerMedia AVerTVHD A180
  • The Kworld ATSC110
  • SKY Digital HDTV

Here is a feature matrix to help keep track of what card does what:

Vendor / Model Frontend Bridge Interface 8VSB QAM NTSC Comp/S-video Analog CC PID filtering3
ATI HDTV Wonder nxt2004 cx23882 yes no1 yes yes no2 sw
AverMedia AVerTV HD A180 nxt2004 saa7135 yes yes no yes ? sw
BBTI/Technisat Air2PC (1st) bcm3510 flexcop yes no no no no hw
Air2PC (2nd) nxt2002 flexcop yes no5 no no no hw
AirStar HD5000 lgdt3303 flexcop yes yes no no no hw
Dvico FusionHDTV3 Gold-Q lgdt3302 cx23882 yes yes yes yes no2 sw
FusionHDTV3 Gold-T lgdt3302 cx23882 yes yes yes yes no2 sw
FusionHDTV5 Lite lgdt3303 bt878 yes yes yes yes6 yes sw
FusionHDTV5 Gold lgdt3303 cx23882 yes yes yes yes no2 sw
FusionHDTV5 USB Gold lgdt3303 Cypress FX2LP yes yes no4 no4 ? sw
Kworld ATSC 110 nxt2004 saa7135 yes yes yes yes ? sw
pcHDTV HD-2000 or511xx bt878? yes ? ? ? ? sw
HD-3000 or51132 cx23882 yes yes yes yes yes2 sw
HD-5500 lgdt3303 cx23883 yes yes yes yes yes sw
SKY Digital SKY-HDTV lgdt3303 cx23881 yes yes yes yes ? sw

Note 1: Some may have had sucess. Recent attempts using currently shipping boards have failed
Note 2: The 5500 analog CC works, so the 3000 should too, but I haven't verified the 3000 personally. If you have, please remove this note.
Note 3: 'hw' = hardware, 'sw' = software. Hardware PID filtering allows the card to discard unwanted packets. This typically amounts to saving <10% of the bitrate of a 8-VSB or QAM-64 broadcast, and >55% of the bitrate of a QAM-256 broadcast.
Note 4: Hardware should allow it, but the driver has no support yet.
Note 5: The demodulator supports QAM-64/256, but the tuner can't handle cable frequencies.
Note 6: Has a working comp/s-video port hidden behind the card-plate.

Air2PC

The Air2PC cards usually consume less PCI and memory bandwidth than the other cards because they have a hardware PID filter. The hardware only handles a few streams, which may be limiting if collecting EIT data. The PID filtering is most useful when recording one program in a QAM-256 stream, or when recording low resolution streams. It doesn't save much bandwidth when recording an HDTV stream encoded with 8-VSB, since that set of streams consumes most of the bandwidth anyway.

DViCO

See DVICO.

Sky Digital

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