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::: UPDATE 3: I'm happy to report, that I haven't had a single recording go bad since adding the buggy_sfn_workaround option to both kernel modules. I therefore consider my problem fixed. I hope this will help others with the same problem. --[[User:Cthulhu|Cthulhu]] 15:47, 23 March 2009 (CET)
::: UPDATE 3: I'm happy to report, that I haven't had a single recording go bad since adding the buggy_sfn_workaround option to both kernel modules. I therefore consider my problem fixed. I hope this will help others with the same problem. --[[User:Cthulhu|Cthulhu]] 15:47, 23 March 2009 (CET)
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::: 29/Mar/09 - Hi, I live in the UK and have just bought this card and I'm using it to watch TV under MythTV but have quite a bad jittery picture. Would it be possible to describe the solution in a little more detail. For example the "/etc/modprobe.d/options" file doesn't exist in Ubuntu and if I create it and add "options dib3000mc buggy_sfn_workaround=1" and reboot the problem is not solved. It would be great if you could shed some light on what commands you ran to fix this issue. Much appreciated.
::: [[User:TFotherby|TFotherby]] 29 March 2009 - Hi, I live in the UK and have just bought this card and I'm using it to watch TV under MythTV but have quite a bad jittery picture. Would it be possible to describe the solution in a little more detail. For example the "/etc/modprobe.d/options" file doesn't exist in Ubuntu and if I create it and add "options dib3000mc buggy_sfn_workaround=1" and reboot the problem is not solved. It would be great if you could shed some light on what commands you ran to fix this issue. Much appreciated.
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::: I use Gentoo so I'm not too familiar with Ubuntu. However I do have access to an Ubuntu machine and it does indeed have the /etc/modprobe.d/options, so I'm a bit puzzled why you don't have it. Try adding these 3 files to /etc/modprobe.d:
::: I use Gentoo so I'm not too familiar with Ubuntu. However I do have access to an Ubuntu machine and it does indeed have the /etc/modprobe.d/options, so I'm a bit puzzled why you don't have it. Try adding these 3 files to /etc/modprobe.d:
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::: I hope this helps. If not try posting the output of lsmod. --[[User:Cthulhu|Cthulhu]] 11:34, 30 March 2009 (CEST)
::: I hope this helps. If not try posting the output of lsmod. --[[User:Cthulhu|Cthulhu]] 11:34, 30 March 2009 (CEST)
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::: [[User:TFotherby|TFotherby]] 30 March 2009 - Thanks I appreciate you getting back to me. I tried setting these parameters and checked they were activated but had no luck - mythtv picture was still suffering from tearing and noise glitches. I think something is wrong at a more basic level - My TV signal strength doesn't get over about 56% and I get different results depending on what socket I plug the coaxial cable into. If I plug it into the bottom input (the one closest to the IR port) I seem to get a slightly better signal on one tuner but zero-signal on the other but if I plug it into the top input I get equally poor signal on both tuners. I know there isn't a issue with the cable because the signal is fine when plugged into the TV so I'm wondering whether I have a faulty Nova-td 500 card? I tried other DVB methods and had no luck with Xine or Kaffine. I did have to take the backing plate off the card because my case only has low profile PCI slots but I used electrical tape to make sure the metal of the card inputs didn't touch the metal of the case. Still - there seems to be some kind of feedback or noise being introduced?

Revision as of 21:30, 30 March 2009

I bought a Nova-T-500 from PC World in Croydon on 2nd August 2007. Below the barcode on the box, it reads "WinTV-NOVA-T-500 model 289 SL-289-V2.1-UK". It would appear that having V2.1 on the box could be either the Nova-T or the Nova-TD. Most confusing!

If anyone's interested, PC World had about five Nova-T cards in stock when I bought mine. None of them had the Diversity sticker on them. --Nickg 00:32, 4 August 2007

Confusing indeed! Thanks for the info. I'll copy the relevant portions over to the article. --CityK 17:53, 4 August 2007 (CEST)


Is there any reason why LNA isn't enabled by default? Surely the vast majority of users would want it on. --[Chris Simmons]

Card Identification Confusion Continues

Continuing time traveler Simon Kenyon's 2009-01-07 article comment in the 1.3 WinTV-NOVA-TD-500 section: I, too, spoke with Hauppauge UK Technical Support today (06-JAN-2009). According to the technical support agent, the WinTV-NOVA-T-500 (presumably all revisions including the 289 SL-289-V2.0-UK and 289 SL-289-V2.1-UK) is superseded by the WINTV-NOVA-TD500 (their ONLY current production model of the DVB-T Dual-Tuner PCI card.)

The Hauppauge tech support agent also stated the WINTV-NOVA-TD500 is using a DiBcom controller (though it is unclear if this is the same problematic DiB0710 controller as used in 289 SL-289-V2.1-UK cards.) Hopefully someone with direct experience can expand the collective knowledge by sharing here.

Lastly to underscore Simon Kenyon's article comment, Hauppage will NOT exchange the Rev. 289 SL-289-V2.1-UK card or the new WINTV-NOVA-TD500 for a Rev. 289 SL-289-V2.0-UK card; Hauppage directs unhappy consumers to return products to the place of purchase for a refund, which is the permissible and correct action under UK law. Would it be possible to strike-through or redact the two incorrect sentences in the article 1.3 WinTV-NOVA-TD-500 section which begin with "Fortunately, for Linux users..."?

You mean like that :D ... go nuts, its a wiki! --CityK 03:11, 8 January 2009 (CET)


Jittery exception not limited to Australia

I seem to be experiencing the same issue with occasional jittery reception, but I live pretty far from Australia. A fair amount of my recordings (approx. 20% maybe more) suffers from visual and sound artifacts. I live in Denmark and receive channels at 8 MHz. I will try the fix (buggy_sfn_workaround) and see if it fixes my problem. I will report my findings once I have recorded some shows. --Cthulhu 08:47, 8 January 2009 (CET)

UPDATE: Unfortunately buggy_sfn_workaround didn't alleviate my problem, as the very first recording after adding the option (and rebooting ofc) still showed the artifacts. I guess my problem lies elsewhere. Any suggestions? --Cthulhu 15:19, 12 January 2009 (CET)
UPDATE 2: After having a look at the involved kernel modules, I noticed that both dib3000mc and dib7000p has the buggy_sfn_workaround option. I have now tried enabling it for both and so far it's looking good. I have recorded 6 shows so far without artifacts. --Cthulhu 11:36, 5 February 2009 (CET)
UPDATE 3: I'm happy to report, that I haven't had a single recording go bad since adding the buggy_sfn_workaround option to both kernel modules. I therefore consider my problem fixed. I hope this will help others with the same problem. --Cthulhu 15:47, 23 March 2009 (CET)
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TFotherby 29 March 2009 - Hi, I live in the UK and have just bought this card and I'm using it to watch TV under MythTV but have quite a bad jittery picture. Would it be possible to describe the solution in a little more detail. For example the "/etc/modprobe.d/options" file doesn't exist in Ubuntu and if I create it and add "options dib3000mc buggy_sfn_workaround=1" and reboot the problem is not solved. It would be great if you could shed some light on what commands you ran to fix this issue. Much appreciated.
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I use Gentoo so I'm not too familiar with Ubuntu. However I do have access to an Ubuntu machine and it does indeed have the /etc/modprobe.d/options, so I'm a bit puzzled why you don't have it. Try adding these 3 files to /etc/modprobe.d:
dib3000mc:
options dib3000mc buggy_sfn_workaround=1
dib7000p:
options dib7000p buggy_sfn_workaround=1
dvb_usb_dib0700:
options dvb_usb_dib0700 force-lna-activation=1
And reboot.
I take it that you have all dvb drivers compiled as modules. I believe this is default in Ubuntu, so you probably do. You can check that the changes was applied with:
cat /sys/module/dib3000mc/parameters/buggy_sfn_workaround
cat /sys/module/dib7000p/parameters/buggy_sfn_workaround
cat /sys/module/dvb_usb_dib0700/parameters/force-lna-activation
I hope this helps. If not try posting the output of lsmod. --Cthulhu 11:34, 30 March 2009 (CEST)
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TFotherby 30 March 2009 - Thanks I appreciate you getting back to me. I tried setting these parameters and checked they were activated but had no luck - mythtv picture was still suffering from tearing and noise glitches. I think something is wrong at a more basic level - My TV signal strength doesn't get over about 56% and I get different results depending on what socket I plug the coaxial cable into. If I plug it into the bottom input (the one closest to the IR port) I seem to get a slightly better signal on one tuner but zero-signal on the other but if I plug it into the top input I get equally poor signal on both tuners. I know there isn't a issue with the cable because the signal is fine when plugged into the TV so I'm wondering whether I have a faulty Nova-td 500 card? I tried other DVB methods and had no luck with Xine or Kaffine. I did have to take the backing plate off the card because my case only has low profile PCI slots but I used electrical tape to make sure the metal of the card inputs didn't touch the metal of the case. Still - there seems to be some kind of feedback or noise being introduced?