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Klaus Schmidinger writes:
 > I have installed the latest drivers from siemens_dvb-0.03b.tar.gz
 > and can successfully switch channels.
 > 
 > When I run the 'osdtest.cc' program I get a small rectangle at the
 > bottom of the screen (which appears to have the correct size), but
 > the contents of that rectangle is not the text "20  PRO SIEBEN"
 > as given in the source code. There is just some colorful "noise"
 > in the rectangle which changes about every half second.
 > 
 > I tried the different color depths and found that the text was only
 > displayed with color depth 1.
 > 
 > Is this a known problem - or am I doing something wrong?

No, that´s new.
Are you using the firmware which came with the driver?

Does anybody else have this effect?

Ralph


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From: Ralph Metzler <rjkm@netcologne.de>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:47:19 +0100 (CET)
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Subject: Cyberlogin Client
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Mike Pikowski writes:
 > Hi
 >
 > I installed the Siemens driver and the Cyberlogin Client
 > It all worked , the driver has been installed .
 > I edited the .ini file of the Login Programm with my UserName , my Pass
 > and My Mac Adress.
 > The Client Connects but I receive no data over the dvb0 device.
 > Do i have to edit my routing or ..... ?!

The right EON server has to be set as proxy of course.

You should not have to specify the MAC. The DVBDevice option should
suffice to figure this out.

I also only tested this with a DVB card and ISDN connection in the
same computer.
If you are connected to the net differently, e.g. the DVB card is in a
computer behind a firewall with masquerading, it will probably not
work like this yet.

Ralph


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Ralph Metzler wrote:
>
> Klaus Schmidinger writes:
>  > I have installed the latest drivers from siemens_dvb-0.03b.tar.gz
>  > and can successfully switch channels.
>  >
>  > When I run the 'osdtest.cc' program I get a small rectangle at the
>  > bottom of the screen (which appears to have the correct size), but
>  > the contents of that rectangle is not the text "20  PRO SIEBEN"
>  > as given in the source code. There is just some colorful "noise"
>  > in the rectangle which changes about every half second.
>  >
>  > I tried the different color depths and found that the text was only
>  > displayed with color depth 1.
>  >
>  > Is this a known problem - or am I doing something wrong?
>
> No, that´s new.
> Are you using the firmware which came with the driver?

I'm using the driver as it comes in siemens_dvb-0.03b.tar.gz.
I believe the firmware is also contained in this archive and
is uploaded into the card when the driver is installed with
'make insmod'?!

Klaus
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_______________________________________________________________

Klaus Schmidinger                       Phone: +49-8635-6989-10
CadSoft Computer GmbH                   Fax:   +49-8635-6989-40
Hofmark 2                               Email:   kls@cadsoft.de
D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany           URL:     www.cadsoft.de
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Rod.Walsh@nokia.com writes:

> PS. It would be helpful to have a complete listing of Linux enabled DVB
> cards (not just the technotrend-variants). This would fit into the scope of
> "linuxtv.org" but it would be nice if Siemens and Convergence agreed to this

Sure. Just let us know which cards work with Linux, and we'll add them.

Andreas

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From: Ralph Metzler <rjkm@netcologne.de>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:22:07 +0100 (CET)
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Subject: Cyberlogin
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Thomas Eichenhofer writes:
 > Hi folks,
 > did i need to recompile Cyberlogin, when changing my cyberlogin.ini file?

No, only if you also want to change the transponder.
I will add a transponder option to the ini file for the next version.


Ralph


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If I want to listen on other PID's and frequencies, what should I do ?
Should I select this PID in tt_pid field of frontend structure ?

Thanks in advance,


Doru Marin



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Rod.Walsh@nokia.com writes:

> After much searching I got this kind advice from Siemens:
> > Dear Rod,
> > it's possible to order the DVB-Board about Mascom (german company who
> delivers in Europe)
> > http://www.satshop.com/dvbpci.htm
> > https://www.satshop.com/order.htm

Thank you Rob! I have put the link on linuxtv.org. Now at least the European
users can get hold of one of these cards. Actually we are very unhappy about the
Siemens Werksverkauf. If nothing changes, we will set up a web shop and sell the
boards ourselves. Unfortunately we have to prepare our CeBit presentation
before.

> Hope this saves others from "chasing wild geese". 
>
> Anyone from Siemens "listening in" should make a note of how difficult buying
> the card is - this should be dealt with if Siemens is to make = money on these
> products. Also, I still have not found the DVB-C (cable) = version of the card
> available for sale (any clues anybody?)

I have told them several times. But we are in contact with the developers, not
the sales people. As far as I know Siemens Fujitsu introduces kind of a new
e-commerce System for their retailers in April and if this software speaks some
reasonable protocol and runs on a Linux server, things should soon become
better.

> PS. It would be helpful to have a complete listing of Linux enabled DVB cards
> (not just the technotrend-variants). This would fit into the = scope of
> "linuxtv.org"

Yes, we definitely need this. If anybody on the list has made experiences with
other cards that run on Linux, please post your comments and I'll make the list.

> but it would be nice if Siemens and Convergence agreed to = this

There is nothing to agree. Linuxtv.org is about Linux and digital video, not
about proprietary software, marketing and other boring things.

> since first they have made the initial open source contributions to
> linuxtv.org. (If I am stepping on toes tell me and I'll be more = delicate in
> future).

Actually you are stepping on my toes because I realize that we have to do more
for the web site ;-)

greetings

Martin Springer
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Hello !

I have been using my satelite receiver in a WinNT machine for some time.
Now I have moved it to a Linux box, and everything works fine except
that there is no Fazzt client
for Linux. Is it possible to forward trafic intended for Fazzt to my LAN
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dan writes:
 >     Is anyone on this list to have other type of dvb board except the
 > Siemens one. I mean a Telemann or even a Pentamedia one?
 >     Is there any interest to unify the dvb driver for different
 > manufacturers.
 >     I personally own a Pentamedia board which I have to admit is a very
 > fine piece of hardware. (Software lacks) Let's say only C-Cube Mpeg
 > chipset (AVIA@TV)


The driver will probably be completely different and not much of the
Siemens driver will be reusable. What kind of PCI bridge does the
Pentamedia use?

However, I will be happy to talk to anybody who is writing a Linux
driver for a DVB card so that we can agree on a common API.
I try to make the API as genenral as possible while keeping
compatible with the existing Vide4Linux API. Some parts, e.g. the 
bitfilters, are probably still a little to specific to the Siemens
card. But this can still be changed easily (not too many applications
exist yet).

The important parts of the Telemann driver are not open source.
So, I don´t know what kind of API they are using.

Ralph
 




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I'm using a function based on the 'ctest.cc' example
to switch channels. Sometimes the channel isn't set
correctly and I get a black screen or a frozen picture
from the previous channel. I noticed that when I call
the channel set function again with the same parameters,
the channel often gets set correctly.

Question: is there a way to know whether the call to
'ioctl(v, VIDIOCSFRONTEND, &front)' actually was
successful? From what I have seen in the source code
it always returns '0' - unless I overlooked something...

I'm using the latest drivers from siemens_dvb-0.03b.tar.gz

Klaus Schmidinger
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Martin Springer wrote:

> > PS. It would be helpful to have a complete listing of Linux enabled DVB cards
> > (not just the technotrend-variants). This would fit into the = scope of
> > "linuxtv.org"
>
> Yes, we definitely need this. If anybody on the list has made experiences with
> other cards that run on Linux, please post your comments and I'll make the list.
>
> > but it would be nice if Siemens and Convergence agreed to = this
>
> There is nothing to agree. Linuxtv.org is about Linux and digital video, not
> about proprietary software, marketing and other boring things.

I'm glad to hear this.
Driver for the Siemens card checks if you have the "right" card by reading
EEPROM (lines 139,140 in VES1893.c). If so it initiates VES1893 (line 163),
if not it marks EEPROM with 0xb6 at address 0xce (line 153).

This init in VES1893.c works on my Hauppauge DVBs card:

int init(struct i2c_client *client)
{
        int i;
        printk("VES1893: init chip\n");
        if (writereg(client, 0, 0)<0)
          printk("VES1893: send error\n");
        for (i=0; i<54; i++)
          writereg(client, i, Init1893Tab[i]);
        writereg(client, 0x1a, 0x1);
        return 0;
}

I would be grateful for information what exactly should
be written to VES1893 at address 0x1a.

I noticed two problems with patched driver (Hauppauge DVBs,
P200MMX, RedHat 6.1):
- 'cat test.pva > /dev/video' hangs the computer,
- the same problem with osdtest as Klaus Schmidinger
  described.

Matjaz



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Martin Springer wrote:

> > PS. It would be helpful to have a complete listing of Linux enabled DVB cards
> > (not just the technotrend-variants). This would fit into the = scope of
> > "linuxtv.org"
>
> Yes, we definitely need this. If anybody on the list has made experiences with
> other cards that run on Linux, please post your comments and I'll make the list.
>
> > but it would be nice if Siemens and Convergence agreed to = this
>
> There is nothing to agree. Linuxtv.org is about Linux and digital video, not
> about proprietary software, marketing and other boring things.

I'm glad to hear this.
Driver for the Siemens card checks if you have the "right" card by reading
EEPROM (lines 139,140 in VES1893.c). If so it initiates VES1893 (line 163),
if not it marks EEPROM with 0xb6 at address 0xce (line 153).

This init in VES1893.c works on my Hauppauge DVBs card:

int init(struct i2c_client *client)
{
        int i;
        printk("VES1893: init chip\n");
        if (writereg(client, 0, 0)<0)
          printk("VES1893: send error\n");
        for (i=0; i<54; i++)
          writereg(client, i, Init1893Tab[i]);
        writereg(client, 0x1a, 0x1);
        return 0;
}

I would be grateful for information what exactly should
be written to VES1893 at address 0x1a.

I noticed two problems with patched driver (Hauppauge DVBs,
P200MMX, RedHat 6.1):
- 'cat test.pva > /dev/video' hangs the computer,
- the same problem with osdtest as Klaus Schmidinger
  described.

Matjaz



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Klaus Schmidinger writes:
 > I'm using a function based on the 'ctest.cc' example
 > to switch channels. Sometimes the channel isn't set
 > correctly and I get a black screen or a frozen picture
 > from the previous channel. I noticed that when I call
 > the channel set function again with the same parameters,
 > the channel often gets set correctly.
 >
 > Question: is there a way to know whether the call to
 > 'ioctl(v, VIDIOCSFRONTEND, &front)' actually was
 > successful? From what I have seen in the source code
 > it always returns '0' - unless I overlooked something...
 >
 > I'm using the latest drivers from siemens_dvb-0.03b.tar.gz

Add a line with  "front.AFC=1;" or the auto fine tuning is not
enabled.

The channel is locked if the lower 5 bits of front.sync are on.

Ralph


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On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Matjaz Thaler wrote:

>
> This init in VES1893.c works on my Hauppauge DVBs card:
>
> int init(struct i2c_client *client)
> {
>         int i;
>         printk("VES1893: init chip\n");
>         if (writereg(client, 0, 0)<0)
>           printk("VES1893: send error\n");
>         for (i=0; i<54; i++)
>           writereg(client, i, Init1893Tab[i]);
>         writereg(client, 0x1a, 0x1);
>         return 0;
> }
>

mmh... this should work ????
I patched my version, but still keep the "SIEMENS FUJITSU" LOGO.

Maybe there are some more things to do.

Stefan



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> This init in VES1893.c works on my Hauppauge DVBs card:
>
> int init(struct i2c_client *client)
> {
>         int i;
>         printk("VES1893: init chip\n");
>         if (writereg(client, 0, 0)<0)
>           printk("VES1893: send error\n");
>         for (i=0; i<54; i++)
>           writereg(client, i, Init1893Tab[i]);
>         writereg(client, 0x1a, 0x1);
>         return 0;
> }
>
> I would be grateful for information what exactly should
> be written to VES1893 at address 0x1a.

You can use 0x21.

This selects
DVB mode (Bit 0),
QPSK mode (Bit 1),
10^7 bits for Viterbi output Bit Error Rate computation (Bits 4 and 5).

The bit error rate computation is only for statistical purposes and does not
affect the decoding process.

Micha




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On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Matjaz Thaler wrote:

>
> This init in VES1893.c works on my Hauppauge DVBs card:
>
> int init(struct i2c_client *client)
> {
>         int i;
>         printk("VES1893: init chip\n");
>         if (writereg(client, 0, 0)<0)
>           printk("VES1893: send error\n");
>         for (i=0; i<54; i++)
>           writereg(client, i, Init1893Tab[i]);
>         writereg(client, 0x1a, 0x1);
>         return 0;
> }
>

mmh... this should work ????
I patched my version, but still keep the "SIEMENS FUJITSU" LOGO.

Maybe there are some more things to do.

Stefan



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--snip/snip

> The Card is very sensitieve, with a very good AGC (better than my Nokia
> MM9600)
>
> No Problems to get Channels whith a Symbol-Rate from 30 down to 8 MSym/s,
> but not the Feed Rates 7028, 6857, 6398, 6110, 5632, 3123, 2880 Sym/s
> The Nokia 9660/DVB2000 works well, down to 1365 (is there Hope for the Feature
> ? Ralf ?)

can someone give me some details of the tuner? - i'm simply to lazy to open
my case - especially since it is closed right now (for the first time since
about a year ;)

	thanks in advance

		++dent

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hi list,

... i know this reply coms a little bit late, but i still have some
problems ... :(

> The lower 8 bits are the filter mask, i.e. it specifies which bits are
> checked, the higher 8 bits specify which value those bits should have.
> So, in the example from CyberLogin.c:
>
> struct bitfilter filt = {
>   0x200,
>   { 0x3eff, 0x00ff, 0x00ff, 0x0000, 0x0000, 0x0000, 0x00ff, 0x00ff,
>     0x00ff, 0x00ff, 0x0000, 0x0000, 0x0000, 0x0000, 0x0000, 0x0000},
>   0x1c,0
> };

so if the hi-byte is the value and the lo-byte is the mask, there has
to be a problem somewhere (in my thoughts or in cyberlogin)

according to the standard the above would filter:

table_id
section_syntax_indicator
private_indicator
section_length
section_number
last_section_number
MACaddr[3]
MACaddr[2]

would appreciate any comments on this. another question is, if we can separate
pids from the bitmask - or can someone give me a good reason to have one
bitmask per pid - and not multiple pids and multiple bitmasks (applying to
the sum of filtered pids)

	cheers

		++dent

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Is there going to be an application program interface to the
OSD functions available in dvb.c?
I would like to write a little on-screen menu system that
allows me to switch channels etc. using a remote control unit.
Also: is there a detailed description of all the OSD command
capabilities (parameters etc)?

Klaus Schmidinger
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First off, I live in the USA. I have a Nokia DBox with DVB2000 and use it
to receive quite a few DVB satellite streams and pass them onto my PC
thourgh SCSI

I'm interested in getting one of the DVB boards that this software has
been written for (The Siemens one) and helping out with the development. I
write C/C++ code for a living.

If you're able to sell me one of these boards, please let me know.

To answer an earlier question about Echostar, they encrypt their
stuff. You would need a CAM (Conditional access module) and smart card
that has been autorized by Echostar (Dish network) to receive their
programming. Since they will only authorize their own receivers, and the
Seimens board (to my knowledge) has to ability to attach a CAM, you cannot
use these boards for that.

There are, however, a number of other clear MPEG streams that are availble
in the USA which I'm interested in, both for video and data purposes.

Regards,

Terry

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On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Terry Hardie wrote:

> I'm interested in getting one of the DVB boards that this software has
> been written for (The Siemens one) and helping out with the development. I
> write C/C++ code for a living.
>
> If you're able to sell me one of these boards, please let me know.

I am located in Canada and am interested in doing the same.  I have a 10'
dish with a C/Ku-band feed (as I'm sure you have as well).  I am also a
software engineer working on connectivity software for Win32.

Any information on the availability of these cards in North America would
be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Mike.

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On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Mike Frisch wrote:

> On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Terry Hardie wrote:
>
> > I'm interested in getting one of the DVB boards that this software has
> > been written for (The Siemens one) and helping out with the development. I
> > write C/C++ code for a living.
> >
> > If you're able to sell me one of these boards, please let me know.
>
> I am located in Canada and am interested in doing the same.  I have a 10'
> dish with a C/Ku-band feed (as I'm sure you have as well).  I am also a
> software engineer working on connectivity software for Win32.
>
> Any information on the availability of these cards in North America would
> be greatly appreciated.

I'll let you know what I find.

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I am currently experimenting with the OSD features of the
Siemens card and found that there is apparently a limit
to the size of the OSD windows. I can create a window with
a size of 400x118, but anything above that (like 400x119)
doesn't work. I can, though, create a window with e.g. 300x150,
so my guess would be that the limit applies to the total number
of pixels.

This is pretty unfortunate, since I was hoping to be able to
implement an on-screen menu system for setting and switching
channels, managing timers and recordings etc. For this I would
need OSD windows that cover pretty much the entire screen.

Can I somehow overcome (or increase) this window size limit?
How many windows can there be? Any time I create a window with
a number greater than 2, the system comes to a complete freeze
(only a hardware reboot helps then).

Klaus Schmidinger
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> as I finally succeded with the configuration of vdr, I would
> like to ask if a playback of the current tuned station over
> the network is possible (I have a 100M network)?
> If it is possible, what client do I need to display the program
> (linux or windows).

Ah - you want to playback it with a "software-Player ?"

Then i don´t know - but if you use a Client with a aditional DVB-S CARD i only can say: it works realy great !

Here i can have 3 Recordings (with 3 DVB-CARDS) and 2 Playback´s (2 clients with 1 DVB-CARD in each) - without any Problems !

The only must is a Switch.

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Hi,

Klaus Schmidinger writes:
 > Is there going to be an application program interface to the
 > OSD functions available in dvb.c?
 > I would like to write a little on-screen menu system that
 > allows me to switch channels etc. using a remote control unit.
 > Also: is there a detailed description of all the OSD command 
 > capabilities (parameters etc)?

Yes, I will supply a user interface for OSD.
The API calls will then all be explained.


Klaus Schmidinger writes:
 > I am currently experimenting with the OSD features of the
 > Siemens card and found that there is apparently a limit
 > to the size of the OSD windows. I can create a window with
 > a size of 400x118, but anything above that (like 400x119)
 > doesn't work. I can, though, create a window with e.g. 300x150,
 > so my guess would be that the limit applies to the total number
 > of pixels.

The total OSD memory size for all windows combined is set to 32KB
inside the firmware.
 
 > This is pretty unfortunate, since I was hoping to be able to
 > implement an on-screen menu system for setting and switching
 > channels, managing timers and recordings etc. For this I would
 > need OSD windows that cover pretty much the entire screen.

You can if you choose BITMAP1 as color depth but you only have 1 color 
then.


 > Can I somehow overcome (or increase) this window size limit?
 > How many windows can there be? Any time I create a window with
 > a number greater than 2, the system comes to a complete freeze
 > (only a hardware reboot helps then).

The firmware will have to be rewritten.
This needs to be done anyway to allow 2 bit deep full size overlay for
the DVD menues.
The memory is generally very tight on the card. Most of it is used for
MPEG decoding. So, bigger OSD menues with lots of colors could only be 
used when the playback is not on. I´ll have to see if I can implement
such a mode.

You also could solder a 4MB DRAM instead of the 2MB on the board ...


Ralph

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Ralph Metzler wrote:
>
> Klaus Schmidinger writes:
>  > Is there going to be an application program interface to the
>  > OSD functions available in dvb.c?
>
> Yes, I will supply a user interface for OSD.
> The API calls will then all be explained.

In case you are still open for suggestions: my menu system would
be easiest to implement if I could display one window and write
into a second window in the background, and then simply swap the
two windows. If this were possible, my program could always write
complete pages and wouldn't need to implement mechanisms for moving
a cursor around etc. Or is this already possible and I just haven't
figured it out yet?

> The memory is generally very tight on the card. Most of it is used for
> MPEG decoding. So, bigger OSD menues with lots of colors could only be
> used when the playback is not on. I´ll have to see if I can implement
> such a mode.

That would be an acceptable compromise :-)
I would only need full screen OSD windows when no recording or
playback is going on (I assume when you say "playback" you mean
playing back a file that was recorded on disk earlier, not displaying
the currently received programme directly?!).
When in Record or Playback mode a smaller menu window would be
sufficient for displaying the very few options one has in such a mode.

So if you could implement a mode that allows to have full screen windows
with many colours in non-playback/record mode, I would vote for that!

> You also could solder a 4MB DRAM instead of the 2MB on the board ...

Those are SMT devices, right? That would be very difficult, I guess.
Plus it would void the manufacturers warranty :-(
Does Siemens deliver these cards with 4MB DRAM? If so, and If I had
known that, I would have preferred more memory...

I'm wondering if there is work being done by anybody to implement
an on-screen menu system that allows selecting and modifying channels,
programming timers and managing a directory structure of recordings.
This is pretty much what I'm trying to do (and which I'd be glad to
share, once it works). Does anybody know of such a project?

Klaus Schmidinger
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Klaus Schmidinger writes:
 > In case you are still open for suggestions: my menu system would
 > be easiest to implement if I could display one window and write
 > into a second window in the background, and then simply swap the
 > two windows. If this were possible, my program could always write
 > complete pages and wouldn't need to implement mechanisms for moving
 > a cursor around etc. Or is this already possible and I just haven't
 > figured it out yet?

The firmware supports 16 Windows, 8 hardware and 8 virtual.
But current limitations are that "Currently, virtual windows can not
be swapped with displayable windows." which makes them kind of
useless. Sorry.

 
 > > The memory is generally very tight on the card. Most of it is used for
 > > MPEG decoding. So, bigger OSD menues with lots of colors could only be
 > > used when the playback is not on. I´ll have to see if I can implement
 > > such a mode.
 > 
 > That would be an acceptable compromise :-)
 > I would only need full screen OSD windows when no recording or
 > playback is going on (I assume when you say "playback" you mean
 > playing back a file that was recorded on disk earlier, not displaying
 > the currently received programme directly?!).
 > When in Record or Playböööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööö

 > known that, I would have preferred more memory...

Me too. But sorry, no, they do not sell them with more DRAM.
I should have put some kind of smiley behind that line. One really
should not try to replace any chips on the board without a lot of
experience with this kind of "surgery".

 
 > I'm wondering if there is work being done by anybody to implement
 > an on-screen menu system that allows selecting and modifying channels,
 > programming timers and managing a directory structure of recordings.
 > This is pretty much what I'm trying to do (and which I'd be glad to
 > share, once it works). Does anybody know of such a project?

Support for recording and selecting files for playback will go into
the gVideo application. For timed recordings you would of course want
something which also runs in the background without X11.


Ralph

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Karsten Siebert writes:
 > I use Technotrend's windows driver 1.11 on Siemens. So it should
work the opposite way too.

Not necessarily.


>BTW is anybody working on implementing MPE (multiprotocol encapsulation) data to receive IP data (perhaps as a network driver) not only audio/video ?
 >

The next version of the Siemens DVB card driver will include support for
this. I have it working here with a Europe Online test account but it
is not ready for release yet.


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Hallo alltogether,
may i use the Siemens driver with my TechnoTrend card, or will the driver upload a new or modify my existing firmware?
I'll just want to try the driver, without shooting my card ;-)
Really got a lot of trobble when trying to install the linux driver for my AVM B1 card, thats why i'm getting carefull.
Is there somewhere a HowTo to install, get rid of the driver?

Thanx
Thomas Eichenhofer

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>may i use the Siemens driver with my TechnoTrend 
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firmware?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'll just want to try the driver, without shooting 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Really got&nbsp;a lot of trobble when trying to 
install the linux driver for my AVM B1 card, thats why i'm getting 
carefull.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is there somewhere a HowTo to install, get rid of 
the driver?</FONT></DIV>
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I really want to know where is that difference between them !
Because I can't see it ! Probably Ralph knows more...
I really want to know how to detect that difference.

BTW, anyone knows why I can't have a sync on a Pentium lower than 200MHz ?
I have to look in BIOS or it's hopeless ?

On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Thomas Eichenhofer wrote:

> Hallo alltogether,
> may i use the Siemens driver with my TechnoTrend card, or will the driver upload a new or modify my existing firmware?
> I'll just want to try the driver, without shooting my card ;-)
> Really got a lot of trobble when trying to install the linux driver for my AVM B1 card, thats why i'm getting carefull.
> Is there somewhere a HowTo to install, get rid of the driver?
>
> Thanx
> Thomas Eichenhofer
>

Thanks in advance,

Doru Marin



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On 06-Jan-00 Doru MARIN wrote:
> I really want to know where is that difference between them !
> Because I can't see it ! Probably Ralph knows more...
> I really want to know how to detect that difference.

The difference is that the Linux drivers only work with the Siemens card.
I tried the drivers on a Hauppauge card - it did not work.
After the firmware download I can see the splash screen (Convergence / Fujitsu
Siemens), and it stays. No Pro7, and no sync on any other station using the
ctest program.


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Daniel Unruh <unruh@acm.org> writes:

> The difference is that the Linux drivers only work with the Siemens card.
> I tried the drivers on a Hauppauge card - it did not work.
> After the firmware download I can see the splash screen (Convergence / Fujitsu
> Siemens), and it stays. No Pro7, and no sync on any other station using the
> ctest program.

Hm, at that stage MPEG2 playback should work... can you try that?

Andreas

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On 07-Jan-00 Andreas Bogk wrote:
> Daniel Unruh <unruh@acm.org> writes:
>
>> The difference is that the Linux drivers only work with the Siemens card.
>> I tried the drivers on a Hauppauge card - it did not work.
>
> Hm, at that stage MPEG2 playback should work... can you try that?

A 'cat test.pva > /dev/video' plays the first frame (+ a few more, depending on
test stream) and then hangs. When I try to kill the cat process, the machine
locks up.
The splash screen remains (A Convergence logo, a fat black rectangle in the
middle of the screen, and the Fujitsu-Siemens text).

Maybe the driver does not like the TechnoTrend format.

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Hi,

I have 2 TechnoTrend boards, one at work and one at home.
At work, the Linux driver for the Siemens/Fujitsu work perfectly.
At home, it does not sync at all.
Both of them are with RedHat Linux 6.1, XFree 4.0 (3.9.17).
At work I have a QDI B1S, PII 400, 128Mb, GeForce, Yamaha744 DS-XG
At Home I have a ABIT BP6, Dual Celeron 433, 192Mb, GeForce DDR, Yamaha 744
DS-XG

The Boards was manufactured in the same stock, since their MAC address
is the same except for the last nibble.

At Home I've tried with SMP and UP kernels, from 2.2.10 to 2.3.29
I've tried the firmware sent with the drivers, and the one with the
TechnoTrend
drivers.

Another difference is that at work I have a fixed dish to Astra directly
connected to the board, while at home I have a motorized dish (H-H
with Diseqc 1.2) and a signal splitter to use both the Board and a
Nokia MM 9200.

I think that in linux, the board does not take the control of the switch.
In Windows, of course, it work perfectly.

Ralph, this is with the latest build. I'm also looking on implementing
the Diseqc 1.2 protocol to use the my rotor, if no-one else is working
on it. Please let me know.

Diego Picciani

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> On 07-Jan-00 Andreas Bogk wroööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööin
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> middle of the screen, and the Fujitsu-Siemens text).
>
> Maybe the driver does not like the TechnoTrend format.
>
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Diego Picciani writes:
 > I have 2 TechnoTrend boards, one at work and one at home.
 > At work, the Linux driver for the Siemens/Fujitsu work perfectly.
 > At home, it does not sync at all.
 > Both of them are with Rööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööing to do with the kernel or firmware.
I am rather still surprised it worked with your Technotrend board at work.
But I won´t say anything about this matter anymore.


 > Another difference is that at work I have a fixed dish to Astra directly
 > connected to the board, while at home I have a motorized dish (H-H
 > with Diseqc 1.2) and a signal splitter to use both the Board and a
 > Nokia MM 9200.
 > 
 > I think that in linux, the board does not take the control of the switch.
 > In Windows, of course, it work perfectly.

I tested the switching with a 2- and 4-way DiSEqC switch as well as a
2-way Burst-Switch. But I can only talk for my hardware here of
course. I will move the main DiSEqC control in userland so that more 
flexible control from the application is possible.


 > Ralph, this is with the latest build. I'm also looking on implementing
 > the Diseqc 1.2 protocol to use the my rotor, if no-one else is working
 > on it. Please let me know.

See above. This should be easy to implement then.
I also considered changing to a DiSEqC rotor but it really isn´t the
right weather for this now. So, just go ahead.

Ralph

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Martin Springer wrote:

> > PS. It would be helpful to have a complete listing of Linux enabled DVB cards
> > (not just the technotrend-variants). This would fit into the = scope of
> > "linuxtv.org"
>
> Yes, we definitely need this. If anybody on the list has made experiences with
> other cards that run on Linux, please post your comments and I'll make the list.
>
> > but it would be nice if Siemens and Convergence agreed to = this
>
> There is nothing to agree. Linuxtv.org is about Linux and digital video, not
> about proprietary software, marketing and other boring things.

I'm glad to hear this.
Driver for the Siemens card checks if you have the "right" card by reading
EEPROM (lines 139,140 in VES1893.c). If so it initiates VES1893 (line 163),
if not it marks EEPROM with 0xb6 at address 0xce (line 153).

This init in VES1893.c works on my Hauppauge DVBs card:

int init(struct i2c_client *client)
{
        int i;
        printk("VES1893: init chip\n");
        if (writereg(client, 0, 0)<0)
          printk("VES1893: send error\n");
        for (i=0; i<54; i++)
          writereg(client, i, Init1893Tab[i]);
        writereg(client, 0x1a, 0x1);
        return 0;
}

I would be grateful for information what exactly should
be written to VES1893 at address 0x1a.

I noticed two problems with patched driver (Hauppauge DVBs,
P200MMX, RedHat 6.1):
- 'cat test.pva > /dev/video' hangs the computer,
- the same problem with osdtest as Klaus Schmidinger
  described.

Matjaz



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On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Matjaz Thaler wrote:

>
> This init in VES1893.c works on my Hauppauge DVBs card:
>
> int init(struct i2c_client *client)
> {
>         int i;
>         printk("VES1893: init chip\n");
>         if (writereg(client, 0, 0)<0)
>           printk("VES1893: send error\n");
>         for (i=0; i<54; i++)
>           writereg(client, i, Init1893Tab[i]);
>         writereg(client, 0x1a, 0x1);
>         return 0;
> }
>

mmh... this should work ????
I patched my version, but still keep the "SIEMENS FUJITSU" LOGO.

Maybe there are some more things to do.

Stefan



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On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Matjaz Thaler wrote:

>
> This init in VES1893.c works on my Hauppauge DVBs card:
>
> int init(struct i2c_client *client)
> {
>         int i;
>         printk("VES1893: init chip\n");
>         if (writereg(client, 0, 0)<0)
>           printk("VES1893: send error\n");
>         for (i=0; i<54; i++)
>           writereg(client, i, Init1893Tab[i]);
>         writereg(client, 0x1a, 0x1);
>         return 0;
> }
>

mmh... this should work ????
I patched my version, but still keep the "SIEMENS FUJITSU" LOGO.

Maybe there are some more things to do.

Stefan



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Martin Springer wrote:

> > PS. It would be helpful to have a complete listing of Linux enabled DVB cards
> > (not just the technotrend-variants). This would fit into the = scope of
> > "linuxtv.org"
>
> Yes, we definitely need this. If anybody on the list has made experiences with
> other cards that run on Linux, please post your comments and I'll make the list.
>
> > but it would be nice if Siemens and Convergence agreed to = this
>
> There is nothing to agree. Linuxtv.org is about Linux and digital video, not
> about proprietary software, marketing and other boring things.

I'm glad to hear this.
Driver for the Siemens card checks if you have the "right" card by reading
EEPROM (lines 139,140 in VES1893.c). If so it initiates VES1893 (line 163),
if not it marks EEPROM with 0xb6 at address 0xce (line 153).

This init in VES1893.c works on my Hauppauge DVBs card:

int init(struct i2c_client *client)
{
        int i;
        printk("VES1893: init chip\n");
        if (writereg(client, 0, 0)<0)
          printk("VES1893: send error\n");
        for (i=0; i<54; i++)
          writereg(client, i, Init1893Tab[i]);
        writereg(client, 0x1a, 0x1);
        return 0;
}

I would be grateful for information what exactly should
be written to VES1893 at address 0x1a.

I noticed two problems with patched driver (Hauppauge DVBs,
P200MMX, RedHat 6.1):
- 'cat test.pva > /dev/video' hangs the computer,
- the same problem with osdtest as Klaus Schmidinger
  described.

Matjaz



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Klaus Schmidinger <Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de> writes:

> Looks like the mailing list archive stopped being updated on Dec 09 15:06:29 1999.
> There were several messages since then, but they don't turn up in the archive at
> http://linuxtv.org/lists/linux-dvb/maillist.html

test

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Hi Kui

What exactly do you mean by DVB-ASI Driver?

Are you looking for a receiver that takes DVB-ASI as the input? Or a PC card
that converts DVB-S (for example) to DVB-ASI? Or are you looking for a
specific driver that works with some hardware you already have?

Alternatively, are you asking about ASI in the headend (the pre-broadcast
hardware/software) for some kind of multiplexing, modulating or DVB-SI or
-DAT service?

Are you looking for general info. or something very application specific?

If I can I will help. If not, I hope these questions will enable others to
help.

Regards,
Rod Walsh

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    I'm a beginner about Linux. I want to get some information about DVB-ASI
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 Rod.Walsh@nokia.com wrote:

> What exactly do you mean by DVB-ASI Driver?

the driver for DVB-P ?? (the parallel interface) and the SI interface should
be exactly the same, everything which is different is on the hardware-output/
input side.

> Are you looking for a receiver that takes DVB-ASI as the input? Or a PC card
> that converts DVB-S (for example) to DVB-ASI?

huh? probably you like to convert the parallel stream (LVD) into ASI.
... there are a couple of professional receivers having ASI output, but
most (or all of them) also support parallel output.

> Or are you looking for a
> specific driver that works with some hardware you already have?
>
> Alternatively, are you asking about ASI in the headend (the pre-broadcast
> hardware/software) for some kind of multiplexing, modulating or DVB-SI or
> -DAT service?

ASI is just relevant between your encoder/multiplexor and the modulator.
(or the same vice-versa on the receiver side)

> Are you looking for general info. or something very application specific?
>
> If I can I will help. If not, I hope these questions will enable others to
> help.

i'm also willing to help (if i can) ... but the above question is somewhat
too cryptic for me.

	++dent

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Hi,

>From the outside, the Technisat SkyStar 1 DVB card seems to be the same
as the Siemens DVB card. For information, see http:\\www.technisat.de.

Furthermore, both the Windoze drivers for Siemens and Technisat are
about the same and appear to be developed by TechnoTrend, see
http:\\www.technotrend.de.

>From this I conclude that the drivers currently developed for Linux will

also work for the Technisat SkyStar 1 DVB card. Can somebody comment on
this?

Technisat promises on their site support for Linux in May 2000. Any
relation with what is developed here?

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Frank Verlinden.






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> >From the outside, the Technisat SkyStar 1 DVB card seems to 
> be the same
> as the Siemens DVB card. For information, see
http:\\www.technisat.de.
> 
> Furthermore, both the Windoze drivers for Siemens and Technisat are
> about the same and appear to be developed by TechnoTrend, see
> http:\\www.technotrend.de.
As far as I know, all the three DVB-s cards (TechnoTrend, Siemens,
Hauppauge)  are in fact the same and are manufactured by Technotrend.
Haven´t tried the Linux-Drivers with my Hauppauge yet but will let you
know.

CU



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Subject: SkyMedia 200 ?
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There are some beta Linux drivers for SkyMedia 200 (Telemann).
Has anyone succesfully used them ?

Thanx,

Doru Marin



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Subject: SkyMedia 200 ?


> There are some beta Linux drivers for SkyMedia 200 (Telemann).
> Has anyone succesfully used them ?
>
> Thanx,
>
> Doru Marin
>



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On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 Carsten.Wagner@Bertelsmann.de wrote:

> As far as I know, all the three DVB-s cards (TechnoTrend, Siemens,
> Hauppauge)  are in fact the same and are manufactured by Technotrend.
> Haven´t tried the Linux-Drivers with my Hauppauge yet but will let you
> know.

I received my Hauppauge board yesterday, and will try out the linux
drivers on it tonight. I'll let you know how I get on.

---
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 Carsten.Wagner@Bertelsmann.de wrote:

> As far as I know, all the three DVB-s cards (TechnoTrend, Siemens,
> Hauppauge)  are in fact the same and are manufactured by Technotrend.
> Haven´t tried the Linux-Drivers with my Hauppauge yet but will let you
> know.

I received my Hauppauge board yesterday, and will try out the linux
drivers on it tonight. I'll let you know how I get on.

---
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Hi,

I have a problem with installing the Linux DVB drivers.
Since my Linux / C / makefile expertise is not that good I have no idea
what is going wrong.

I ran the make file in DVB/driver and I am pretty sure my kernel
sources are in /use/src/linux. But I got this back:

bash-2.03# make
: No such file or directory
'.  Stop.keo rule to make target `/usr/src/linux

I am running SuSE 6.2.

Any idea's?

Frank



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> As usual you can download the driver and further information about the cards
> from http://linuxtv.org/dvb/siemens_dvb.html.

When you and Siemens are happy it is usable do let me know. I have a mailbox
full of Germans asking when it will be in the kernel. Seems you guys adopt
new technology beforeit even hits the UK



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Hello, I want to ask about TELEMANN DVB card from
www.telemann.com (KOREA). They mentioned about
LINUX driver for their Skymedia 200 product.
Is the driver REALLY works?
I heard rumor from the staff of other companies
about the upcoming LINUX drivers. Unfortunately
the technical directors do not want to release
the driver due to instability (ALPHA stage?).
What about DVB IRD? I heard about a cable that
connect IRD to RS-422. Is this useful for LINUX?
There will be several new Set Top Boxes with
USB or Ethernet interfaces. Is it possible to
connect the device into a LINUX PC?
What is your comment/opinion?
Thank's






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I want to ask about DirecPC or DirecDuo Internet
and TV receiver cards from Hughes Network System.
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> Hello, I want to ask about TELEMANN DVB card from
> www.telemann.com (KOREA). They mentioned about
> LINUX driver for their Skymedia 200 product.
> Is the driver REALLY works?
True, there are some beta Linux drivers there.
You can download them from their page.
Until now, these drivers are only for EON Internet.
I couldn't use them for anything else.

Doru Marin



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Hi all there,
i tried to install the new DVB driver the first time and got some error messages.
What to do now?

I did a 'make' in DVB/drivers. OK
I did a 'make insmod' in DVB/drivers. OK
I check with 'lsmod' the module installation: all loaded, but same "unused"
When i do 'make' in DVB/apps, i get something like this:
#make
g++ -O2 ctest.cc -o ctest
in file included from ../driver/dvb.h:4,
                      from ctest.cc:10:
../driver/i2c.h:401 syntax error before ';'
../driver/i2c.h:402 syntax error before ';'
../driver/i2c.h:403 syntax error before '['
make: ***[ctest] Error 1

Btw: I use the Technotrend card and want to try this driver, on some cards it worked.
Is this error caused by the "not supported" card, or did i do any mistake?

Thanx
Thomas Eichenhofer

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi all there,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>i tried to install the new DVB driver the first 
time and got some error messages.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What to do now?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I did a 'make' in DVB/drivers. OK</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I did a 'make insmod' in DVB/drivers. 
OK</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I check with 'lsmod' the module installation: all 
loaded, but same "unused"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>When i do 'make' in DVB/apps, i get something like 
this:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>#make</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g++ -O2 ctest.cc -o ctest</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>in file included from 
../driver/dvb.h:4,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
from ctest.cc:10:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>../driver/i2c.h:401 syntax error before 
';'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>../driver/i2c.h:402 syntax error before 
';'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>../driver/i2c.h:403 syntax error before 
'['</FONT></DIV></DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>make: ***[ctest] Error 1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Btw: I use the Technotrend card and want to try 
this driver, on some cards it&nbsp;worked.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is this error caused by the "not supported" card, 
or&nbsp;did i do any mistake?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thomas Eichenhofer</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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 > ../driver/i2c.h:403 syntax error before '['
 > make: ***[ctest] Error 1

 > Btw: I use the Technotrend card and want to try this driver, on some cards it worked.
 > Is this error caused by the "not supported" card, or did i do any mistake?


No, just use the patch I posted here yesterday or use the 0.03b version
of the driver from www.linuxtv.org and it should compile without problems.

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Hi there,
with the new beta driver compiling worked for me.
Is there any docu how to use CyberLogin gVideo with KDE/Gnome?
I got modules and apps installed, but don't know exactly what to do now, to get a Video Picture or establish an Sat-Internet connection.
I modified cpberlogin.ini for my configuration/account and add a dial-up profile for my Sat-ISP.
What now? Which file/application should i start to get a picture/ do my sat-login?

Sorry, i realy don't know what to do now
Thanx
Thomas Eichenhofer 

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>with the new beta driver compiling worked for 
me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is there any docu how to use CyberLogin gVideo with 
KDE/Gnome?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I got modules and apps installed, but don't know 
exactly what to do now, to get a Video Picture or establish an Sat-Internet 
connection.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I modified cpberlogin.ini for my 
configuration/account and add a dial-up profile for my Sat-ISP.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What now? Which file/application should i start to 
get a picture/ do my sat-login?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry, i realy don't&nbsp;know what to do 
now</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanx</FONT></DIV>
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Thomas Eichenhofer writes:
 > with the new beta driver compiling worked for me.
 > Is there any docu how to use CyberLogin gVideo with KDE/Gnome?

What does this have to do with KDE/Gnome?

 > I got modules and apps installed, but don't know exactly what to do now, to get a Video Picture or establish an Sat-Internet connection.
 > I modified cpberlogin.ini for my configuration/account and add a dial-up profile for my Sat-ISP.
 > What now? Which file/application should i start to get a picture/ do my sat-login?

I guess you compiled and installed the driver as decribed in DVB/INSTALL?

For watching Astra channels then copy the file xtvrc.astra to ~/.xtvrc
(also as described in DVB/INSTALL) and then compile and start gVideo.
If you use an X11 with 32bpp you might have to use "-b 32" as an option.

For connecting to EON just configure CyberLogin.ini, and compile and start
CyberLogin. You have to configure your browser to use the EON proxy
of course. But you should know that from the installation info you
got with your EON account.

Right now only transponder 114 is usable. But you can change that in
CyberLogin.c. The next version will allow to select the transponder in
CyberLogin.ini.

Ralph


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Hi
i am confused ... on 16.1.2000 Ralph Metzler wrote to me that the drivers does not support the Technotrend-Card.
Installing the new 0.03b version (Technotrend+Suse 6.3) no errors occured.
* gVideo starts ... no pictures
* ppp-dial-in-connection --> CyberLogin connects successfully to the Login Server
* Netscape connects to the EON-Proxy but the card delivers no Data.

What´s wrong ?
Winfried Hauerstein
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  From: Thomas Eichenhofer 
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  Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 11:34 AM
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  Hi there,
  with the new beta driver compiling worked for me.
  Is there any docu how to use CyberLogin gVideo with KDE/Gnome?
  I got modules and apps installed, but don't know exactly what to do now, to get a Video Picture or establish an Sat-Internet connection.
  I modified cpberlogin.ini for my configuration/account and add a dial-up profile for my Sat-ISP.
  What now? Which file/application should i start to get a picture/ do my sat-login?

  Sorry, i realy don't know what to do now
  Thanx
  Thomas Eichenhofer 

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>i am confused ... on 16.1.2000 Ralph Metzler wrote 
to me that the drivers does not support the Technotrend-Card.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Installing the new 0.03b 
version&nbsp;(Technotrend+Suse 6.3) no errors occured.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>* gVideo starts ... no pictures</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>* ppp-dial-in-connection --&gt; CyberLogin connects 
successfully to the Login Server</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>* Netscape connects to the EON-Proxy but the card 
delivers no Data.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What´s wrong ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Winfried Hauerstein</FONT></DIV>
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  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A href="mailto:Thomas.Eichenhofer@med.uni-giessen.de" 
  title=Thomas.Eichenhofer@med.uni-giessen.de>Thomas Eichenhofer</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" 
  title=linux-dvb@linuxtv.org>linux-dvb@linuxtv.org</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 26, 2000 11:34 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Using Cyberlogin/gVideo</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi there,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>with the new beta driver compiling worked for 
  me.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is there any docu how to use CyberLogin gVideo 
  with KDE/Gnome?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I got modules and apps installed, but don't know 
  exactly what to do now, to get a Video Picture or establish an Sat-Internet 
  connection.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I modified cpberlogin.ini for my 
  configuration/account and add a dial-up profile for my Sat-ISP.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What now? Which file/application should i start 
  to get a picture/ do my sat-login?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry, i realy don't&nbsp;know what to do 
  now</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanx</FONT></DIV>
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Hi,

that's because the drivers works only for the Siemens brand of boards.
Even if the Hauppauge/TechnoTrend/Galaxis boards are almost the same
to the Siemens, the driver it's not able to "tune" the board correctly if
the brand name is not Siemens. Of course, since the boards are so
similar, the driver compile and load correctly.
If you try the ctest you'll see that your board it's unable to correctly lock the
signal, and that the sync value never get over 0x03 (the bit5, 0x20, does not count).

Diego Picciani

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Winfried Hauerstein 
  To: Thomas Eichenhofer      
  Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 7:57 PM
  Subject: Re: Using Cyberlogin/gVideo


  Hi
  i am confused ... on 16.1.2000 Ralph Metzler wrote to me that the drivers does not support the Technotrend-Card.
  Installing the new 0.03b version (Technotrend+Suse 6.3) no errors occured.
  * gVideo starts ... no pictures
  * ppp-dial-in-connection --> CyberLogin connects successfully to the Login Server
  * Netscape connects to the EON-Proxy but the card delivers no Data.

  What´s wrong ?
  Winfried Hauerstein
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Thomas Eichenhofer 
    To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org 
    Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 11:34 AM
    Subject: Using Cyberlogin/gVideo


    Hi there,
    with the new beta driver compiling worked for me.
    Is there any docu how to use CyberLogin gVideo with KDE/Gnome?
    I got modules and apps installed, but don't know exactly what to do now, to get a Video Picture or establish an Sat-Internet connection.
    I modified cpberlogin.ini for my configuration/account and add a dial-up profile for my Sat-ISP.
    What now? Which file/application should i start to get a picture/ do my sat-login?

    Sorry, i realy don't know what to do now
    Thanx
    Thomas Eichenhofer 

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>that's because the drivers works only for the 
Siemens brand of boards.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Even if the Hauppauge/TechnoTrend/Galaxis boards 
are almost the same</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to the Siemens, the driver it's not able to "tune" 
the board correctly if</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the brand name is not Siemens. Of course, since the 
boards are so</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>similar, the driver compile and load 
correctly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you try the ctest you'll see that your board 
it's unable to&nbsp;correctly lock the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>signal, and that the sync value never get over 0x03 
(the bit5, 0x20, does not count).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Diego Picciani</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A href="mailto:BEW.Hauerstein@t-online.de" 
  title=BEW.Hauerstein@t-online.de>Winfried Hauerstein</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:Thomas.Eichenhofer@med.uni-giessen.de" 
  title=Thomas.Eichenhofer@med.uni-giessen.de>Thomas Eichenhofer</A> 
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A href="mailto:linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" 
  title=linux-dvb@linuxtv.org></A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 26, 2000 7:57 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Using 
Cyberlogin/gVideo</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>i am confused ... on 16.1.2000 Ralph Metzler 
  wrote to me that the drivers does not support the 
  Technotrend-Card.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Installing the new 0.03b 
  version&nbsp;(Technotrend+Suse 6.3) no errors occured.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>* gVideo starts ... no pictures</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>* ppp-dial-in-connection --&gt; CyberLogin 
  connects successfully to the Login Server</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>* Netscape connects to the EON-Proxy but the card 
  delivers no Data.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What´s wrong ?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Winfried Hauerstein</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    <A href="mailto:Thomas.Eichenhofer@med.uni-giessen.de" 
    title=Thomas.Eichenhofer@med.uni-giessen.de>Thomas Eichenhofer</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
    href="mailto:linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" 
    title=linux-dvb@linuxtv.org>linux-dvb@linuxtv.org</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 26, 2000 11:34 
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Using Cyberlogin/gVideo</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi there,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>with the new beta driver compiling worked for 
    me.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is there any docu how to use CyberLogin gVideo 
    with KDE/Gnome?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I got modules and apps installed, but don't 
    know exactly what to do now, to get a Video Picture or establish an 
    Sat-Internet connection.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I modified cpberlogin.ini for my 
    configuration/account and add a dial-up profile for my Sat-ISP.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What now? Which file/application should i start 
    to get a picture/ do my sat-login?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry, i realy don't&nbsp;know what to do 
    now</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanx</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thomas 
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Hi,

When installing the new driver the "make" runs without problems, but the
"make insmod" indicates the following error:

bash-2.03# make insmod
(       \
insmod i2c-core.o; \
insmod videodev.o;              \
insmod saa7146_core.o mode=0;   \
insmod saa7146_v4l.o;           \
insmod VES1893.o;               \
insmod VES1820.o;               \
insmod dvb.o;                   \
insmod tuner.o;                 \
ifconfig dvb0 192.168.4.1;      \
)
saa7146_core.o: unresolved symbol init_mm
saa7146_v4l.o: unresolved symbol saa7146_del_extension
saa7146_v4l.o: unresolved symbol saa7146_add_extension
dvb.o: unresolved symbol memset
dvb.o: unresolved symbol saa7146_del_extension
dvb.o: unresolved symbol saa7146_add_extension
SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
dvb0: unknown interface: No such device

It seems that somewhere in the process the network device dvb0 is not
defined.

Any idea's?
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Frank Verlinden writes:
 > Hi,
 > 
 > When installing the new driver the "make" runs without problems, but the
 > "make insmod" indicates the following error:
 > 
 > bash-2.03# make insmod
 > (       \
 > insmod i2c-core.o; \
 > insmod videodev.o;              \
 > insmod saa7146_core.o mode=0;   \
 > insmod saa7146_v4l.o;           \
 > insmod VES1893.o;               \
 > insmod VES1820.o;               \
 > insmod dvb.o;                   \
 > insmod tuner.o;                 \
 > ifconfig dvb0 192.168.4.1;      \
 > )
 > saa7146_core.o: unresolved symbol init_mm
 > saa7146_v4l.o: unresolved symbol saa7146_del_extension
 > saa7146_v4l.o: unresolved symbol saa7146_add_extension
 > dvb.o: unresolved symbol memset
 > dvb.o: unresolved symbol saa7146_del_extension
 > dvb.o: unresolved symbol saa7146_add_extension
 > SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
 > dvb0: unknown interface: No such device
 > 
 > It seems that somewhere in the process the network device dvb0 is not
 > defined.

No, the problem is in saa7146_core.
The other insmods only fail because this module´s insmod failed.

You have to use a newer kernel which exports init_mm. Something
>2.2.12 should work I think. 

Ralph

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Ralph,

Thanks, I will update the kernel. And maybe you should add to your installation
note
"It should work on all current 2.2.x and 2.3.x kernels."
that it will not work on SuSE 6.2 with 2.2.10 kernel.

Kind regards,

Frank.

Ralph Metzler wrote:

> Frank Verlinden writes:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > When installing the new driver the "make" runs without problems, but the
>  > "make insmod" indicates the following error:
>  >
>  > bash-2.03# make insmod
>  > (       \
>  > insmod i2c-core.o; \
>  > insmod videodev.o;              \
>  > insmod saa7146_core.o mode=0;   \
>  > insmod saa7146_v4l.o;           \
>  > insmod VES1893.o;               \
>  > insmod VES1820.o;               \
>  > insmod dvb.o;                   \
>  > insmod tuner.o;                 \
>  > ifconfig dvb0 192.168.4.1;      \
>  > )
>  > saa7146_core.o: unresolved symbol init_mm
>  > saa7146_v4l.o: unresolved symbol saa7146_del_extension
>  > saa7146_v4l.o: unresolved symbol saa7146_add_extension
>  > dvb.o: unresolved symbol memset
>  > dvb.o: unresolved symbol saa7146_del_extension
>  > dvb.o: unresolved symbol saa7146_add_extension
>  > SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
>  > dvb0: unknown interface: No such device
>  >
>  > It seems that somewhere in the process the network device dvb0 is not
>  > defined.
>
> No, the problem is in saa7146_core.
> The other insmods only fail because this module´s insmod failed.
>
> You have to use a newer kernel which exports init_mm. Something
> >2.2.12 should work I think.
>
> Ralph



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Hi folks,
did i need to recompile Cyberlogin, when changing my cyberlogin.ini file?

Thanx
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Hi,

Is there available gVideo config file for Hotbird?

Thanx,
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Matjaz Thaler <matjaz.thaler@rd.iskraemeco.si> writes:

> Is there available gVideo config file for Hotbird?

No, but if you speak a little perl, you can generate one from the data
at http://www.satcodx.com.

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Hi

I installed the Siemens driver and the Cyberlogin Client
It all worked , the driver has been installed .
I edited the .ini file of the Login Programm with my UserName , my Pass
and My Mac Adress.
The Client Connects but I receive no data over the dvb0 device.
Do i have to edit my routing or ..... ?!








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I have installed the latest drivers from siemens_dvb-0.03b.tar.gz
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When I run the 'osdtest.cc' program I get a small rectangle at the
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Hi,

I would like to know what experiences people have with the siemens driver
and other cards (hauppauge, technotrend etc.)

>From the list I have gathered that it usually doesn't work, but in some cases
it did. I can see the following problems:

1. Hardware differences (since the layouts seem the same, this can be only
   very minor differences.

2. Software (firmware?) differences.

As far as I can see, all the firmware is uploaded by the driver, and should
be the same for all cards used. This rules out problem nr 2.
This leaves problem 1. Since the boards look identical, I assume the only
difference can be in components used. Since the problems mentioned with
the other cards were tuner problems, my guess is that not all tuners
are working/supported yet under the linux drivers.
(Does the tuner type show up in the logs somewere ?)

If the only differences are the tuner, the driver should be easily fixable
for other cards.

If there are major differences, I'll just wait for the technotrend linux
driver, which should be out in march.

I would like to hear your experiences,

Niels de Carpentier

P.S. I would like to support siemens for the support they give for
linux drivers. However, nobody seems to be able to sell me a siemens card.
I spend around 20 phonecalls, and lot of e-mails to find out were to get the
card. I haven't found anybody in the netherlands who has heard of the card,
not siemens, not its distributors and not the shops that sell siemens
computers. Werksverkauf in germany cannot sell me a card to protect local
resellers. Apparently they are willing to make an exception for me, but I
never heard anything from siemens after they promised me to sell me one through
werksverkauf (they did this twice). My siemens contact in germany isn't
answering my e-mails anymore, so they leave me no choice.




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Hi,

After much searching I got this kind advice from Siemens:
> Dear Rod,
> it's possible to order the DVB-Board about Mascom (german company who
delivers in Europe)
> http://www.satshop.com/dvbpci.htm
> https://www.satshop.com/order.htm
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> 
So make this your first shopping trip!

Hope this saves others from "chasing wild geese". 

Anyone from Siemens "listening in" should make a note of how difficult
buying the card is - this should be dealt with if Siemens is to make money
on these products. Also, I still have not found the DVB-C (cable) version of
the card available for sale (any clues anybody?)

All the best,
Rod Walsh.

PS. It would be helpful to have a complete listing of Linux enabled DVB
cards (not just the technotrend-variants). This would fit into the scope of
"linuxtv.org" but it would be nice if Siemens and Convergence agreed to this
since first they have made the initial open source contributions to
linuxtv.org. (If I am stepping on toes tell me and I'll be more delicate in
future).


> -----Original Message-----
> From: EXT niels@casema.net (Niels de Carpentier)
> [mailto:niels@casema.net]
> Sent: 29. January 2000 17:23
> To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
> Subject: alternatives to siemens card.
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to know what experiences people have with the 
> siemens driver
> and other cards (hauppauge, technotrend etc.)
> 
> From the list I have gathered that it usually doesn't work, 
> but in some cases
> it did. I can see the following problems:
> 
> 1. Hardware differences (since the layouts seem the same, 
> this can be only
>    very minor differences.
> 
> 2. Software (firmware?) differences.
> 
> As far as I can see, all the firmware is uploaded by the 
> driver, and should
> be the same for all cards used. This rules out problem nr 2.
> This leaves problem 1. Since the boards look identical, I 
> assume the only
> difference can be in components used. Since the problems 
> mentioned with
> the other cards were tuner problems, my guess is that not all tuners
> are working/supported yet under the linux drivers.
> (Does the tuner type show up in the logs somewere ?)
> 
> If the only differences are the tuner, the driver should be 
> easily fixable
> for other cards.
> 
> If there are major differences, I'll just wait for the 
> technotrend linux 
> driver, which should be out in march.
> 
> I would like to hear your experiences,
> 
> Niels de Carpentier  
> 
> P.S. I would like to support siemens for the support they give for 
> linux drivers. However, nobody seems to be able to sell me a 
> siemens card.
> I spend around 20 phonecalls, and lot of e-mails to find out 
> were to get the 
> card. I haven't found anybody in the netherlands who has 
> heard of the card,
> not siemens, not its distributors and not the shops that sell siemens
> computers. Werksverkauf in germany cannot sell me a card to 
> protect local
> resellers. Apparently they are willing to make an exception 
> for me, but I
> never heard anything from siemens after they promised me to 
> sell me one through
> werksverkauf (they did this twice). My siemens contact in 
> germany isn't
> answering my e-mails anymore, so they leave me no choice.
> 
>  
> 


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Is anybody working on IP multicast address filtering ? I have a couple of
questions regarding filtering:

Is there a description of the bitfilter data bytes. I saw the MAC address is
included. What do the ohter bytes refer too ? (First looks like table ID for
MPE sections - just guessing).
If  I set a byte to 0xff, does this mean accept (don't set filter for this
byte) ?
What does the mode byte mean ?
What is flags for ?
Would simple setting a filter with appropriate settings (MAC/PID) using
SetBitFilter enable reception of the packet I would like to receive ?

Thanks in advance,


Karsten Siebert



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Hi Mike,

well, you have to make 3 checks:

1) You "must" have a Siemens/Fujitsu board.

2) You should set-up the correct proxy.

3) Maybe you have the kernel spoofing protection enabled, so you should
    do a "echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/dvb0/rp_filter"
    (Thanks to Andre´ Draszik <andid@gmx.net> for this hint, which is making
a mini howto)

Diego.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pikowski" <admin@starfleetcommand.de>
To: <linux-dvb@linuxtv.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 3:10 PM
Subject: Cyberlogin Client


> Hi
>
> I installed the Siemens driver and the Cyberlogin Client
> It all worked , the driver has been installed .
> I edited the .ini file of the Login Programm with my UserName , my Pass
> and My Mac Adress.
> The Client Connects but I receive no data over the dvb0 device.
> Do i have to edit my routing or ..... ?!
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Hello,

    Is anyone on this list to have other type of dvb board except the
Siemens one. I mean a Telemann or even a Pentamedia one?
    Is there any interest to unify the dvb driver for different
manufacturers.
    I personally own a Pentamedia board which I have to admit is a very
fine piece of hardware. (Software lacks) Let's say only C-Cube Mpeg
chipset (AVIA@TV)


Best regards,
Dan Lita





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Karsten Siebert writes:
 > Is anybody working on IP multicast address filtering ? I have a couple of
 > questions regarding filtering:
 >
 > Is there a description of the bitfilter data bytes. I saw the MAC address is
 > included. What do the ohter bytes refer too ? (First looks like table ID for
 > MPE sections - just guessing).
 > If  I set a byte to 0xff, does this mean accept (don't set filter for this
 > byte) ?
 > What does the mode byte mean ?
 > What is flags for ?
 > Would simple setting a filter with appropriate settings (MAC/PID) using
 > SetBitFilter enable reception of the packet I would like to receive ?

Just for reference the data structure:

struct bitfilter {
        __u16 pid;
        __u16 data[16];
        __u16 mode;
        __u16 handle;
        __u16 flags;
#define FILTER_UDP   1
#define FILTER_MEM   2
        struct in_addr dest;
};

pid is obvious, the data bytes specify the filter.
The lower 8 bits are the filter mask, i.e. it specifies which bits are
checked, the higher 8 bits specify which value those bits should have.
So, in the example from CyberLogin.c:

struct bitfilter filt = {
  0x200,
  { 0x3eff, 0x00ff, 0x00ff, 0x0000, 0x0000, 0x0000, 0x00ff, 0x00ff,
    0x00ff, 0x00ff, 0x0000, 0x0000, 0x0000, 0x0000, 0x0000, 0x0000},
  0x1c,0
};

The 0x3eff is the section header. The 2 bytes following this would be
the section length. But since filtering for them would not make much
sense, they are left out.
So, the next byte in the data[16] field is byte 3 of the section data
which specifies one MAC byte, etc.
For details refer to the corresponding ETSI document.
The mode is as specified in comcode.h. So, yes, I should have written
SECTION_HIGH_SPEED instead of 0x1c.

The flags only refer to SI (not IPMPE) data right now.
Here you can specify if it should be transferred through UDP sockets
or through a character device (currently /dev/vbi but this will
probably change to something like /dev/dvbsi),

So, if the filter is programmed right, you should be able to get
multicast data. But I will build this into the multicast handling
of the network driver in one of the next versions.


Ralph





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