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[12:32] <pa> hello
[12:32] <pa> i assume nobody around, as usual?
[12:39] <pa> i have problems with Skystar S2 to tune a specific transponder.. any ideas? https://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/treiberinstallation-skystar-s2-pci/8/#post-8159793
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[17:50] <VDR> happy easter. I tried VDR instead of tvheadend. It have problems with some german television when they switch channel. Dont know how to explain that better.
[17:50] <VDR> the channel is switching itself from global to local broadcast. The frequency stay same. tvheadend just loose less then a second. VDR totaly freeze. i have to change then to an other channel and change back again
[18:05] <pa> a question about w_scan: i used the -M option (MPLayer output), but all the dvb-s2 channels are missing (i could see them in the output)
[18:05] <pa> any idea why?
[18:06] <pa> should i use a newer version of w_scan?
[18:06] <VDR> pa: just always use most recent version
[18:09] <VDR> pa: its the same since many years: http://wirbel.htpc-forum.de/w_scan/w_scan-20141122.tar.bz2
[18:09] <pa> ah thanks
[18:09] <pa> im using the one in 14.04
[18:09] <pa> maybe it's older than that..
[18:10] <pa> VDR, any xperience with skystar S2?
[18:12] <VDR> pa: yes: https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TechniSat_SkyStar_S2
[18:13] <VDR> pa: forget it completely on older ubuntu versions. it first works on 16.04 propperly
[18:15] <pa> VDR, i use the liplianin patched media-build
[18:15] <pa> it works quite ok
[18:15] <pa> however, there's one transponder i do not manage to tune
[18:15] <pa> and i don't understand why
[18:15] <pa> i have all the parameters of the program i want to tune
[18:15] <pa> but i don't know how to use them
[18:15] <pa> kaffeine won't let me add a new channel, only scan
[18:16] <pa> and every other player has undocumented channel.conf format that i cant push it by hand..
[18:16] <VDR> its the old driver. its known problem. use kernel 4.3 or newer.
[18:16] <pa> VDR, do you have something pointed at Hotbird? S13E0?
[18:16] <VDR> pa: you just have to install the vdr firmware package and thats all. the card is fully supported out of the box
[18:17] <pa> i see.. well thanks
[18:17] <VDR> pa: try out: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/xenial-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:18] <pa> heh, i actually tried 16.04.. but it doesn't work at all xD
[18:18] <pa> from cd though
[18:19] <pa> anyway, it's weird because S2 12437 for example works well, kaffeine finds all channels and even PressTV HD can be decoded without issues
[18:19] <VDR> pa: you can also dd this image to a usb drive and try that out: http://releases.openelec.tv/OpenELEC-Generic.x86_64-6.95.1.img.gz
[18:19] <pa> but 12475.5 which is the one i need seems blank
[18:19] <pa> ProgDVB finds channels there, but it seems that the windows drivers have issues with S2 stuff
[18:20] <VDR> pa: thats a known problem with older kernels and installed driver. use recent kernel with build in driver.
[18:20] <pa> VDR, aha..
[18:20] <pa> known problem, as in?
[18:20] <pa> not finding channels?
[18:20] <VDR> pa: yes, also mixing up muxes by mistake
[18:21] <pa> aha...
[18:21] <pa> ouch..
[18:21] <pa> well, will try xenial as soon as i get it booting from USB..
[18:21] <pa> thanks for the tips
[18:21] <pa> but in any case
[18:22] <pa> do you know whether for example mplayer can tune dvb-s2?
[18:29] <VDR> pa: i never tried that. probably yes. first try out vlc. if that works, then mplayer should also work
[18:41] <VDR> pa: hi paoletto :P
[18:43] <VDR> you could just answer your own post by replying to Teddy73 that you also find out that its working now out of the box ;)
[18:46] <Auggie> Can Linux be booted natively from a VHD?
[18:51] <VDR> Auggie: you have to look for GRUB VHD support
[18:53] <VDR> Auggie: but what you can simply run XEN for virtualization or use LVM for virtual partitions. Never heard of "VHD".
[19:00] <Auggie> I'm not trying to run the installtion in a VM. I want to boot natively from a VHD without a hypervisor, just as I can Windows.
[19:06] <pa> VDR, you mean on the german forum? 
[19:06] <pa> well i wrote that it works fine after installing media-build with s2-liplianin patch
[19:07] <pa> fine except that i can't tune the only transponder i want xD
[19:22] <VDR> pa: why didnt you try quickly 16.04 and report?
[19:22] <pa> i'm trying now
[19:22] <pa> i tried before
[19:22] <pa> but it didnt work
[19:22] <VDR> install firmware file and run w_scan to test quickly the functionality
[19:22] <pa> now i just got the beta2
[19:23] <pa> VDR: to get it to work i just have to install the package vdr_firmware or something?
[19:23] <VDR> put the firmware file on same place like before. thats all
[19:25] <VDR> you can also run openelec 7.0. that also works out of the box with already preinstalled VDR and firmwarefile
[19:25] <pa> well before i installed a .deb with the firmware
[19:25] <pa> so i didnt actually put anything anywhere
[19:26] <pa> a cx24120-dkms_3.13_all.deb
[19:31] <VDR> pa: sudo su && cd /lib/firmware && wget https://github.com/OpenELEC/dvb-firmware/blob/master/firmware/dvb-fe-cx24120-1.20.58.2.fw?raw=true && chmod 777 dvb-fe-cx24120-1.20.58.2.fw && reboot
[19:32] <pa> ah thanks! then i can reboot and try hoping it works out of the box :-)
[19:33] <VDR> should work
[19:34] <VDR> please contact later then the ubuntu developer and tell them to add the firmware file i linked to the package here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/linux-firmware-nonfree/filelist
[21:39] <pa> so VDR is gone
[21:39] <pa> but actually the driver now in the kernel works even worse
[21:39] <pa> cant find basically anything S2
[21:39] <pa> and i found the same problem in an italian forum
[21:39] <pa> but i sadly lost the link