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   djrscally: Morning all; I have a question about sensor drivers. I'm seeing a driver with horizontal size set lower than the configured output width for a particular mode, which seems a bit strange to me - I would expect the output width to be capped at HTS...is that expectation wrong then?
   jmondi: <u>djrscally</u>: Hi Dan, it feels a bit strange indeed. The "horizontal size" (or HTS) you refer to is the width of the the pixel array selection that gets "processed" to produce the output frame ?
   <br> what happens to the portion of the pixel array which is selected and "processed" really depends on the sensor architecture
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   djrscally: Hummm my understanding is that it's a timing control rather than actually defining any portion of the pixel array to process
   <br> Though "my understanding" is shaky at best so that doesn't mean much!
   jmondi: it's a bit hard to guess without knowing the sensor, but in example, I read on an OV sensor datasheet the description of the TIMING_HTS register as "Total horizontal size"
   djrscally: It's the ov8865 driver I'm looking at; it is actually called that in the datasheet there yeah
   jmondi: and the TIMING_ registers are used to configure the image windowing (I checked two OV datasheet)
   <br> <u>tzanger</u>: a bit late, but out of curiosity, how are you capturing frames on your Pi ?
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   jmondi: <u>djrscally</u>: if TIMINGS_HTS is "horizontal total size" for you as well, it seems unlikely the output size can be larger that that
   djrscally: Yeah; and actually now you mention the image windowing it does have the output size bounded by the horizontal total size box there
   jmondi: however in the datasheet I'm looking at the HTS register is not reported in the windowing diagram :/ lovely OV documentation as usual
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   djrscally: They do love to make everything as clear as mud
   <br> in the OV8865 one it doesn't give the register either, and calls it "horizontal full size" instead of "horizontal total size" in the register table, but I don't see what else it can be really
   jmondi: same here :) do you see issues with the driver that had you look into that part ?
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   djrscally: No, I'm adding hblank and vblank controls to it
   <br> And like for hblank = hts - output_size_y...suddenly that made no sense
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   djrscally: But then; not actually sure I've ever ran that mode - I should try it and see what it does
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   jmondi: oh I see, you need to know the total sizes indeed... I would be curious to know what happens when you adjust HTOT
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   djrscally: I'll try it and see - thanks for the help jmondi
   jmondi: well, I wasn't that useful but you're welcome :)
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   Inky1003: <u>hverkuil</u>: I'm having some v-sync issues at the saa7115... Is there any way to sync manually the source?
   <br> oh, he is not here :(
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   Inky1003: <u>hverkuil</u>: (repeating my question) I'm having some v-sync issues at the saa7115... Is there any way to sync manually the source?
   hverkuil: <u>Inky1003</u>: sorry, I can't help you. It's much too long ago since I last wrestled with the saa7115. I'm sure that there is nothing that you can do manually (well, other than by diving into the driver itself).
   Inky1003: hmm... thanks...
   <br> at least is there any other capture chip that works well?
   <br> maybe the EMPIA?
   hverkuil: em28xx support is pretty decent. But for all these devices there is the same problem that nobody is actively maintaining them.
   Inky1003: hm...
   <br> Actually I had a TM6010 chip that was unsupported, but this V-Sync from the GM-7113 is awful
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