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   ahmadraniri[m]: Hello, apparently pipewire becomes the culprit for my "upside down" webcam, disable pipewire and suddenly no more upside down. I'm using cheese instead of snapshot.
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   pinchartl: ahmadraniri[m]: is your webcam somewhere in this https://git.linuxtv.org/v4l-utils.git/tree/lib/libv4lconvert/control/libv4lcontrol.c#n49 list ?
   ahmadraniri[m]: Yeah, the id are { 0x04f2, 0xb1b9 }
   pinchartl: to start with, that list should be ported to libcamera, to report that the camera is upside down
   ahmadraniri[m]: Nice clue.
   pinchartl: how to flip it is another interesting question. in libv4lconvert, the image is flipped in software if the camera doesn't have the ability to flip in hardware
   <br> the UVC standard doesn't support flipping
   <br> I think this would be best handled on the application side
   <br> but libcamera needs to at least report that the camera is upside down
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