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[vdr] Re: Cutting-tool for VDR-recordings



On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 03:19:48PM +0200, Rene Bartsch wrote:
> Am Mit, 2002-07-03 um 22.22 schrieb Matthias Schniedermeyer:
> > On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 09:09:31PM +0200, Rene Bartsch wrote:
> > > Am Mit, 2002-07-03 um 20.07 schrieb Matthias Schniedermeyer:
> > > > On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 07:39:07PM +0200, Rene Bartsch wrote:
> > > > > Am Mit, 2002-07-03 um 18.43 schrieb Matthias Schniedermeyer:
> > > > > > On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 05:14:06PM +0200, Clemens Kirchgatterer wrote:
> > > > > > > Rene Bartsch <rene@bartschnet.de> wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Is there any tool to directly cut VDR-recordings with X11/Xv on a
> > > > > > > > linux-box with video-directory mounted on that box?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > that would be a "great to have" program. i fear, we would have to write
> > > > > > > one! :-/
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "schnitt" is getting 2 years old in some month.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > "mpeg2-movie"-Packet seems to be for displaying, but is there a
> > > > 
> > > > Right. Dumping single frames for displaying via "xli".
> > > 
> > > Is ist possible play/forward/rewind the recording like in VDR or only
> > > single frames?
> > 
> > Dumping frames is only used for finding the cutting-marks.
> > 
> > > I've read about ISO-images. Is it also possible to do simple cutting
> > > with VDR-/index-files after cutting?
> > 
> > VDR-index file is used for cutting. Via the Index-file the I-Frame is
> > copied out of the XXX.vdr-files, then the first-frame of that file is
> > dumped and displayed via xli.
> > 
> > If mark is "good" you can save the mark.
> > 
> > If ready then you call "cutall" and all recording-dirs are scanned for
> > "cut"-mark-files. Then this mark-files are processed.
> > "processing" ist plain simple. Just copy from start-offset until
> > end-offset into a new file.
> > 
> > > > 
> > > > > documentation for installing and using (Readme is very thin ...)
> > > > 
> > > > No. :-)
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > And how do we get it running ...?
> > 
> > This is a bit complicated. As nobody has EVER asked me how, i've never
> > made that system "general" useable. All Scripts are currently hardcoded
> > for my environment.
> > 
> 
> So, it's no real solution to play, forward, rewind, pause, set marks and
> cut with sound?

It is only for cutting. Sound is irrelevant for finding cutting-marks.

The movie isn't "played" for finding the marks. You have "current" index
and the buttons for jumping forward/backwards. The picture for the
current index is shown.

 -10m -5m -2m -1m -30s -15s -4s -2s P.I. N.I. +2s +4s +15s +30s +1m +2m +5m +10m +23m +44m +5h 

This is VERY efficient (e.g. "+23m" is the length of short series.
"+44m" is for "normal" length series). You only need a few seconds to
find each cutting-mark.

e.g. Cutting a "normal" length series on Premiere (I don't record FreeTV)
<select recording>
+10m (The marginstart i use)
+/- a few seconds
mark
+44m
+/- a few seconds
mark
ready to cut.

or. Cutting a movie
<select recording>
+10m
+/- a few seconds
mark
+5h (Jump to the end)
-10m (The marginstop i use)
-5m ("Normal" time too much on premiere)
+/- a few minutes/seconds
mark


This only takes a few seconds for each recording.

I use the method for nearly 2 years now. The only "problematic" channel
is VIVA/M-TV. Here i use another strategy. I replay the recording via
VDR and everytime when there is an interesting clip i stop the replay
and save the "resume.vdr". After i'm through with the recording i have
offsets which i only have to make more precise.




Bis denn

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