[vdr] Re: List Errors

[Rene Bartsch <ml@bartschnet.de>]

Am Son, 2003-06-15 um 23.22 schrieb Oliver Endriss:
> Christian Berger wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Am Sonntag, 15. Juni 2003 22:49 schrieben Sie:
> > > > Hi List,
> > > >
> > > > does any of you get tons of old messages deliverd again too?
> > >
> > > me too, mostly from 12.06.03  (nearly 30 messeges since 5 hours
> > > ago)
> > >
> > > hermann
> >
> > You both are using GMX, maybe that induces that problem.
> > For example GMX's mailserver could have been part-down for some hours
> > and told the mailing-lists mailserver that he couldn't deliver any
> > mail, but you still got it. The mailing-list mailserver will then try
> > it again, a few hours later.
> 
> Nope. See below.

I'm using my own server (SUSI 8.0 with postfix) and get the messages,
too. So, no GMX-problem.

> 
> > We'd need the logs to find out if
> > something like that happened.
> 
> All headers look the same. Apparently some brain-damaged exchange server
> is relaying mails back to the list. For example:
> 
> | Delivered-To: GMX delivery to o.endriss@gmx.de
> | Received: (qmail 19794 invoked by uid 65534); 15 Jun 2003 19:57:16 -0000
> | Received: from mail.convergence.de (EHLO mail.convergence.de) (212.84.236.4)
> |   by mx0.gmx.net (mx033-rz3) with SMTP; 15 Jun 2003 21:57:16 +0200
> | Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.convergence.de)
> |	by mail.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 4.14)
> |	id 19RdUs-0005Wx-Pu; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:49:02 +0200
> | Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list vdr); Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:42:32 +0200 (CEST)
> | Received: from [194.6.178.2] (helo=chzuginet02.zug.ch.abatos.com)
> |	by mail.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 4.14)
> |	id 19RdOE-0004fN-DN
> |	for vdr@linuxtv.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:42:10 +0200
> | Received: by inet02-i.zug.ch.abatos.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
> |	id <MWMC5C73>; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 20:35:26 +0200
> | Received: from chzugglob18.zug.ch.abatos.com (smtp-eu01.abatos.com [143.99.32.97]) by chzuginet02.zug.ch.abatos.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13)
> |	 id MWMC5B5W; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 20:30:09 +0200
> | Received: from PickupDirectory by chzugglob18.zug.ch.abatos.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13)
> |	id M04AL7WP; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 20:30:07 +0200
> | From: ...
> | To: vdr@linuxtv.org
> 

We already had that problem some month ago on the list:

"Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13" -> M$ =
Big Bug. Obviously a lazy admin didn't update his M$ SMTP-server ...

Mail him and block it if he doesn't react!

Rene



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