On 10/07/08 02:18, Malcolm Caldwell wrote:
On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 11:11 +0200, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
On 10/06/08 11:06, Laz wrote:
On Monday 06 Oct 2008, Frank Scherthan wrote:
Laz schrieb:
On Sunday 05 Oct 2008, Gavin Hamill wrote:
On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 15:10 +0100, Dave P wrote:
On another Freeview specific note, I'd love to have my channels renumbered to their "proper" Freeview numbers. At the moment, I have to go through and move them about by hand every time something changes! I don't think there is currently any support for assigning channels a specific number within vdr (probably not much point with gazillions of satellite channels but more useful with the handful of terrestrial Freeview ones in the UK).
man 5 vdr: A group delimiter can also be used to just set the next channel’s number, without an explicit delimiter text, as in
:@201That's what I mean by "doing it by hand"! My channels.conf is littered with those!
;)
Would be nice if each channel entry had a field for channel number instead, especially when they helpfully decide to move a channel!
It's also the way "real" set-top boxes do it. I think "scan" can output the channel numbers to a vdr-readable channels.conf but I think that just puts in a :@1, :@2, :@3, etc. every other line. Just doesn't seem neat to me, especially as the channel numbers are broadcast.
I did start looking at this a while back but never got very far: might have another go...
I don't think it makes any sense to put actual channel numbers into each channel's line in channels.conf. For one, what if different providers want to use the same channel numbers? And: what if channels are moved around, inserted or deleted?
It might not make sense in your environment.
It certainly doesn't - with several providers and mixed DVB-S and DVB-T channels the idea of each provider wanting to dictate channel numbers is just not feasible.
In the UK and here in Australia there are fixed, advertised channel numbers.
Well, if you have only a single provider and/or transmission method, I can see that you might identify a channel by its number.
It makes sense if something is advertised as being on channel 20, then pressing '2' and then '0' should tune to that channel. "Makes sense" means that "I can describe it to my wife".
The channel numbers are implicitly derived from the position of each channel in the channels.conf file. Offsets can be suggested with :@nnn lines, but are only hints and may be ignored if there are too many channels before them to actually implement the desired numbers.
Maybe I should try to explain this to my wife instead?
You can number your channels in whatever way you want, with the existing means implemented in VDR - it just doesn't happen automatically. So there's no need to explain anythign to your wife, if you just sort your channels the right way ;-)
Are these channel numbers broadcast in a way that's covered in the DVB SI standard? If so, I see no reason why VDR shouldn't (optionally) use them when sorting channels. But they sure have no place in channels.conf, in there I would still use :@nnn lines to set the offsets.
Klaus