Hello
after upgrading from 1.4.3 to 1.4.5 i am sometimes kicked off the "live view" with warning
"VPS-Aufnahme beginnt in Kürze"
I can switch back to channel i want to see, but not for long.
I have 3 FF cards so usually there would be a free card to get the VPS signal.
After the VPS recording has started, the card seems to be free.
I rember that at 1.4.3 a short discussion occurs. One said: "That the good way, simply don't use VPS" the other said: "I have a patch, the only disadvantage: Your screen will blank for fractions of a second at some/every start of recording".
Of cause only the second solution would be the least annoying, but obvioulsy, VDR choose the "non-user-compatible" way? :-(
What do have to do to avoid this annoying card locking in the VPS-margin?
(See below only 2 transponders are involved, the system has 3(!) DVT-S FF cards.)
58:03 : [3595] timer 13 (16 2000-2017 VPS 'A') entered VPS margin 58:04 : [3595] switching to channel 16 58:05 : [3754] channel 1 (Das Erste) event Son 10.02.2008 19:20-20:00 (VPS: 10.02 19:20) 'Weltspiegel' status 1 58:05 : [3595] info: VPS-Aufnahme beginnt in Kürze! 58:05 : [3754] channel 10 (SWR Fernsehen BW) event Son 10.02.2008 19:58-20:00 (VPS: 10.02 19:58) 'Baden-Württemberg Wetter' status 4 58:05 : [3754] channel 1 (Das Erste) event Son 10.02.2008 20:00-20:15 (VPS: 10.02 20:00) 'Tagesschau' status 2 58:07 : [3595] timer 75 (18 2000-2010 VPS 'K') entered VPS margin 58:18 : [3754] channel 12 (hr-fernsehen) event Son 10.02.2008 19:58-20:00 (VPS: 10.02 19:58) 'hessenschauwetter' status 4 58:20 : [3595] switching to channel 5 58:29 : [3595] switching to channel 16 58:30 : [3595] info: VPS-Aufnahme beginnt in Kürze! 58:52 : [3595] switching to channel 5 58:58 : [3595] switching to channel 15 59:00 : [3595] timer 11 (3 1910-1959 'R') stop 59:01 : [3595] switching to channel 16 59:01 : [3595] info: VPS-Aufnahme beginnt in Kürze!
vdr:/var/lib/vdr# cat timers.conf | grep -n -e "-S:2000:" -e "-S:19" 11:1:S19.2E-1-1079-28007:------S:1910:1959:50:7:R: 12:5:S19.2E-1-1079-28006:------S:1930:2014:50:6:E: 13:5:S19.2E-1-1101-28112:------S:2000:2017:50:68:A: 75:5:S19.2E-1-1101-28109:------S:2000:2010:50:7:K:
On 02/10/08 20:51, Rainer Zocholl wrote:
Hello
after upgrading from 1.4.3 to 1.4.5 i am sometimes kicked off the "live view" with warning
"VPS-Aufnahme beginnt in Kürze"
I can switch back to channel i want to see, but not for long.
I have 3 FF cards so usually there would be a free card to get the VPS signal.
After the VPS recording has started, the card seems to be free.
I rember that at 1.4.3 a short discussion occurs. One said: "That the good way, simply don't use VPS" the other said: "I have a patch, the only disadvantage: Your screen will blank for fractions of a second at some/every start of recording".
Of cause only the second solution would be the least annoying, but obvioulsy, VDR choose the "non-user-compatible" way? :-(
What do have to do to avoid this annoying card locking in the VPS-margin?
(See below only 2 transponders are involved, the system has 3(!) DVT-S FF cards.)
58:03 : [3595] timer 13 (16 2000-2017 VPS 'A') entered VPS margin 58:04 : [3595] switching to channel 16 58:05 : [3754] channel 1 (Das Erste) event Son 10.02.2008 19:20-20:00 (VPS: 10.02 19:20) 'Weltspiegel' status 1 58:05 : [3595] info: VPS-Aufnahme beginnt in Kürze! 58:05 : [3754] channel 10 (SWR Fernsehen BW) event Son 10.02.2008 19:58-20:00 (VPS: 10.02 19:58) 'Baden-Württemberg Wetter' status 4 58:05 : [3754] channel 1 (Das Erste) event Son 10.02.2008 20:00-20:15 (VPS: 10.02 20:00) 'Tagesschau' status 2 58:07 : [3595] timer 75 (18 2000-2010 VPS 'K') entered VPS margin 58:18 : [3754] channel 12 (hr-fernsehen) event Son 10.02.2008 19:58-20:00 (VPS: 10.02 19:58) 'hessenschauwetter' status 4 58:20 : [3595] switching to channel 5 58:29 : [3595] switching to channel 16 58:30 : [3595] info: VPS-Aufnahme beginnt in Kürze! 58:52 : [3595] switching to channel 5 58:58 : [3595] switching to channel 15 59:00 : [3595] timer 11 (3 1910-1959 'R') stop 59:01 : [3595] switching to channel 16 59:01 : [3595] info: VPS-Aufnahme beginnt in Kürze!
vdr:/var/lib/vdr# cat timers.conf | grep -n -e "-S:2000:" -e "-S:19" 11:1:S19.2E-1-1079-28007:------S:1910:1959:50:7:R: 12:5:S19.2E-1-1079-28006:------S:1930:2014:50:6:E: 13:5:S19.2E-1-1101-28112:------S:2000:2017:50:68:A: 75:5:S19.2E-1-1101-28109:------S:2000:2010:50:7:K:
I tried this with VDR 1.5.13 (AFAICS there was no change regarding VPS recordings in vdr.c since 1.4.7) by programming 4 recordings on 2 transponders, all with VPS. I had to increase the VPS margin to have them all within the VPS margin, but the live channel was never switched away.
I have 3 DVB-S cards in my system.
Does your system have 3 DVB-S cards? You wrote "DVT-S", so I'm wondering if this was just a typo.
Can all your DVB-S cards be tuned independent of each other? IIRC you're using the "lnb sharing" patch, which might interfere here.
Klaus
Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de(Klaus Schmidinger) 16.02.08 16:54
vdr:/var/lib/vdr# cat timers.conf | grep -n -e "-S:2000:" -e "-S:19" 11:1:S19.2E-1-1079-28007:------S:1910:1959:50:7:R: 12:5:S19.2E-1-1079-28006:------S:1930:2014:50:6:E: 13:5:S19.2E-1-1101-28112:------S:2000:2017:50:68:A: 75:5:S19.2E-1-1101-28109:------S:2000:2010:50:7:K:
I tried this with VDR 1.5.13 (AFAICS there was no change regarding VPS recordings in vdr.c since 1.4.7) by programming 4 recordings on 2 transponders, all with VPS. I had to increase the VPS margin to have them all within the VPS margin, but the live channel was never switched away.
What will happen it there was a third VPS recording already running on a third transponder?
BTW: Meanwhile i did not see that "switching away" again.
Does your system have 3 DVB-S cards? You wrote "DVT-S", so I'm wondering if this was just a typo.
I have 3 FF-DVB-S on one LNB and one DVB-T
but i found that the 1350Ghz AMD Duron "K7S8XE+" is overlaoded with 3 simlutanions recordings.
Too i found that channel hopping on 1.4.7 so noticable slower than 1.4.3 but that may be a DVB-driver problem too as i run a 2.6 kernel now which has a known worser memory performance than 2.4.
Too i see a noticable delay/skew between cursor movement and selection. (i press "down", the cursor left moves 200ms later to next line, the higlight right moves approc. 300ms delayed.)
Can all your DVB-S cards be tuned independent of each other? IIRC you're using the "lnb sharing" patch, which might interfere here.
Ooops.. does VPS (now) cause channel switching as EGP scan? That would not be good because i currently use the unpatched orginal debian/elchi package because "baking" patches under debian is not very easy to automate. (OK, on vertical are only the garbage programs like RTL+ which do not support VPS and are not worth recording)
Rainer
lspci -v ..
00:09.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 01) Subsystem: Technotrend Systemtechnik GmbH Technotrend/Hauppauge DVB card rev2.1 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 5 Memory at cfff6e00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512]
00:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11) Subsystem: Avermedia Technologies Inc AverMedia AVerTV DVB-T 771 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10 Memory at cecfe000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2
00:0a.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11) Subsystem: Avermedia Technologies Inc AverMedia AVerTV DVB-T 771 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10 Memory at cecff000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2
00:0b.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 01) Subsystem: Technotrend Systemtechnik GmbH Technotrend/Hauppauge DVB card rev2.1 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 5 Memory at cfff6c00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512]
00:0d.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 01) Subsystem: Technotrend Systemtechnik GmbH Siemens/Technotrend/Hauppauge DVB card rev1.3 or rev1.5 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 5 Memory at cfff6a00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512]
On 02/17/08 01:19, Rainer Zocholl wrote:
Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de(Klaus Schmidinger) 16.02.08 16:54
vdr:/var/lib/vdr# cat timers.conf | grep -n -e "-S:2000:" -e "-S:19" 11:1:S19.2E-1-1079-28007:------S:1910:1959:50:7:R: 12:5:S19.2E-1-1079-28006:------S:1930:2014:50:6:E: 13:5:S19.2E-1-1101-28112:------S:2000:2017:50:68:A: 75:5:S19.2E-1-1101-28109:------S:2000:2010:50:7:K:
I tried this with VDR 1.5.13 (AFAICS there was no change regarding VPS recordings in vdr.c since 1.4.7) by programming 4 recordings on 2 transponders, all with VPS. I had to increase the VPS margin to have them all within the VPS margin, but the live channel was never switched away.
What will happen it there was a third VPS recording already running on a third transponder?
Then it will need to switch the third card to that transponder. So far each DVB card can only receive one transponder at a time.
BTW: Meanwhile i did not see that "switching away" again.
Does your system have 3 DVB-S cards? You wrote "DVT-S", so I'm wondering if this was just a typo.
I have 3 FF-DVB-S on one LNB and one DVB-T
but i found that the 1350Ghz AMD Duron "K7S8XE+" is overlaoded with 3 simlutanions recordings.
Too i found that channel hopping on 1.4.7 so noticable slower than 1.4.3 but that may be a DVB-driver problem too as i run a 2.6 kernel now which has a known worser memory performance than 2.4.
Too i see a noticable delay/skew between cursor movement and selection. (i press "down", the cursor left moves 200ms later to next line, the higlight right moves approc. 300ms delayed.)
Can all your DVB-S cards be tuned independent of each other? IIRC you're using the "lnb sharing" patch, which might interfere here.
Ooops.. does VPS (now) cause channel switching as EGP scan?
In order to do VPS, VDR needs to tune to the transponder it shall record from some time before the actual recording starts, in order to "see" the "running status". This time frame can be adjusted with the "Setup/Recording/VPS margin" parameter.
That would not be good because i currently use the unpatched
If you don't want VDR to switch to the transponder before the official start time, you can set "VPS margin" to 0. However, you might miss the beginning of the show then, because sometimes they do start a little early, too.
Klaus
orginal debian/elchi package because "baking" patches under debian is not very easy to automate. (OK, on vertical are only the garbage programs like RTL+ which do not support VPS and are not worth recording)
Rainer
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