I know that some of you (especially Klaus :) ) already own this card, as a few arrived to dvbshop. I'm asking you to share some experiences, as I hardly understand german discussions on vdrportal. Currently I'm having two VDR machines, one with DVB-S Premium + CRT TV, and another one with DVB-S2 budget + xine. What I would like to know: with the new S2-6400 card does VDR works as rock solid as worked with FF DVB-S cards? This means for me: - OSD and remote are working instanly - even if I'm watching a HD playback, fast forward (and backward) works as expected - output device does not crash - I can leave the whole system to work for weeks and to be operated by my family, and it always will work as expected (as a VDR + FF DVB-S combo does)
thanks for your answers.
Istvan
What I would like to know: with the new S2-6400 card does VDR works as rock solid as worked with FF DVB-S cards? This means for me:
- OSD and remote are working instanly
- even if I'm watching a HD playback, fast forward (and backward) works
as expected
- output device does not crash
- I can leave the whole system to work for weeks and to be operated by
my family, and it always will work as expected (as a VDR + FF DVB-S combo does)
Well, it might be a little early to answer these questions thoroughly since the very first cards reached the end-users yesterday, but the first comments sound quite promising. According to this post[1] by "spitzb", the card seems to work quite well. Here's a brief translation:
"There are no artifacts while zapping around. The picture turns black, returns and that's it. On 1080i channels there is sometimes a still picture for 0.5 seconds, but afterwards the picture gets fine again immediately. Zapping intervals are around 1-2s from HD to HD and below 1s from HD/SD to SD channels. Moving fast forward and backwards in recordings is working flawlessly including moving the cut-marks, sometimes there are a few block artifacts. All in all it feels 'rock stable'. The picture is upscaled to 1080i and looks much better than on eHD (Reel)."
Hope this helps.
Best regards, Roland
[1] http://www.vdr-portal.de/board16-video-disk-recorder/board85-hdtv-dvb-s2/p99...
I just looked at the pdf on this card. Euro only as it only supports PAL. Also, I just got my new 32" TV in dec and noticed that most where 1080p. There where few new 1080i. The local TV dealer said companies are discontinuing 1080i. Many new TV's even upscale to 120 or 240 creating interpolated frames. This card only goes to 1080i. It's already outdated.
On 4/19/2011 10:18 AM, Roland Behme wrote:
What I would like to know: with the new S2-6400 card does VDR works as rock solid as worked with FF DVB-S cards? This means for me:
- OSD and remote are working instanly
- even if I'm watching a HD playback, fast forward (and backward) works
as expected
- output device does not crash
- I can leave the whole system to work for weeks and to be operated by
my family, and it always will work as expected (as a VDR + FF DVB-S combo does)
Well, it might be a little early to answer these questions thoroughly since the very first cards reached the end-users yesterday, but the first comments sound quite promising. According to this post[1] by "spitzb", the card seems to work quite well. Here's a brief translation:
"There are no artifacts while zapping around. The picture turns black, returns and that's it. On 1080i channels there is sometimes a still picture for 0.5 seconds, but afterwards the picture gets fine again immediately. Zapping intervals are around 1-2s from HD to HD and below 1s from HD/SD to SD channels. Moving fast forward and backwards in recordings is working flawlessly including moving the cut-marks, sometimes there are a few block artifacts. All in all it feels 'rock stable'. The picture is upscaled to 1080i and looks much better than on eHD (Reel)."
Hope this helps.
Best regards, Roland
[1] http://www.vdr-portal.de/board16-video-disk-recorder/board85-hdtv-dvb-s2/p99...
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Am Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:53:18 -0700 schrieb "Timothy D. Lenz" tlenz@vorgon.com:
I just looked at the pdf on this card. Euro only as it only supports PAL. Also, I just got my new 32" TV in dec and noticed that most where 1080p. There where few new 1080i. The local TV dealer said companies are discontinuing 1080i. Many new TV's even upscale to 120 or 240 creating interpolated frames. This card only goes to 1080i. It's already outdated.
Totally nonsense, tell me where are the TV provider that sends 1080p?
Gerald
I just looked at the pdf on this card. Euro only as it only supports PAL.
That's no problem for me as a euro resident ...
Also, I just got my new 32" TV in dec and noticed that most where 1080p. There where few new 1080i. The local TV dealer said companies are discontinuing 1080i.
The resolution your TV is capable of is irrelevant if no one is providing this resolution over satellite. At the moment there are no broadcasters sending 1080p. Some do 720p, some 1080i. The signal processor on the S2-6400 supports 1080p at 24/25/30 fps. As far as I read some TV broadcasters (e.g. BBC) are thinking about broadcasting in 1080p50, but this is nothing that comes around the corner next week. The S2-6400 will be capable of handling any signal that is sent all over Europe for the next couple of years. That's sufficient for me. If you want to buy something that lasts forever, you should rather buy a house, not computer hardware.
Many new TV's even upscale to 120 or 240 creating interpolated frames.
I cannot see why this should be an issue. Those TVs multiply the frame rate even when you connect a BD-player. This is done for a improving the image on fast movements. It has nothing to do with the incoming signal in any way.
This card only goes to 1080i. It's already outdated.
See above. Who cares?
Regards, Roland
On 2011.04.19. 20:18, Roland Behme wrote:
"There are no artifacts while zapping around. The picture turns black, returns and that's it. On 1080i channels there is sometimes a still picture for 0.5 seconds, but afterwards the picture gets fine again immediately. Zapping intervals are around 1-2s from HD to HD and below 1s from HD/SD to SD channels. Moving fast forward and backwards in recordings is working flawlessly including moving the cut-marks, sometimes there are a few block artifacts. All in all it feels 'rock stable'. The picture is upscaled to 1080i and looks much better than on eHD (Reel)."
Hope this helps.
Best regards, Roland
Thanks for this translation, this is exactly what I was looking for. (well, I can use google translate, but ...). So all I need to do is to wait for the card, as I preordered it about a year ago and it looks like, it will fits my needs.
István
On 20 April 2011 03:18, Roland Behme rb@nugman.de wrote:
What I would like to know: with the new S2-6400 card does VDR works as rock solid as worked with FF DVB-S cards? This means for me:
- OSD and remote are working instanly
- even if I'm watching a HD playback, fast forward (and backward) works
as expected
- output device does not crash
- I can leave the whole system to work for weeks and to be operated by
my family, and it always will work as expected (as a VDR + FF DVB-S combo does)
Well, it might be a little early to answer these questions thoroughly since the very first cards reached the end-users yesterday, but the first comments sound quite promising. According to this post[1] by "spitzb", the card seems to work quite well. Here's a brief translation:
Would be handy with a dual tuner DVB-T version.
Anyone know if TT is planning to make cable version? At least Canal+ is sending in full HD (1920x1080p25) in cable here.
I already ordered this S2 card just for output device as I'm using cable reception. I guess I need to patch VDR to disable recording with it but can it handle scaling from 1080p recording to its 1080i output?
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