I have to say that I agree with both of you... constructive criticism is best!
As a quiet 'user' of vdr, for about a year, I agree with the sentiments in Martin's post. It is very frustrating that vdr exits when reception is less than perfect. I personally would prefer it if vdr announced on screen that there was a bad signal condition. This is particularly frustrating if at the time you are just watching a perfectly good recording.
So my vote would be for more benign handling of these situations so that I dont' get asked why 'it did that' all the time :-)
Thanks again for such a great piece of software. We are just 'nit picking' really of course!
Regards
Andrew
On 5/27/07, Steffen Barszus st_barszus@gmx.de wrote:
Martin schrieb:
Dear Klaus,
I pay you respect, as you do a great job. You do a lot of work - for free - for the community! So, don't missunderstand me: I really do not intend to blame you personally!
But when it comes to the "Service" thinking of a VDR, things get difficult. VDR is a Service - nothing more, nothing less (SOA thinking).
The question "was there a recording" is neglibible. I don't care if there is a recording going on, when I want to watch a film. The main job of VDR at the time of watching a recording is to display the film. Who cares if the current _BACKGROUND_ recording is disturbed, it's a _FACT_ and i _CAN'T_ change anything at this time. But it drives me and my beloved mad, that we have a shutdown-show-shutdown-show (okay, don't want to do a cut'n'paste show here, but it was 10 maybe 15, 20 times!).
Make a switch and everything is fine. With your emergency exit you fixed problems, that are actually not yours! If the DVB drivers are buggy, try to push the responsibility to those, who _MUST_ take care of the problem. For me, I have Technotrend budget cards which never have a DVB driver problem, it makes make blood rush.
I would suggest you to calm down a littlebit. Your language is unapproriate i think - your point is easy - don't care about receiption problems - don't interrupt user (inter)action.
My questions: Isn't it enough to not use -w parameter ? If not, i'm sure somebody has allready a patch to fix this ? With the drivers getting very mature even for my TT Premium - Skystar2 setup, i agree that first point should not be anymore to assume the drivers failing. But that is all for development tree of vdr not for current stable. To get a proper dscussion, we need to list in which situation vdr is doing what, and how vdr should react.
Steffen
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