Klaus Schmidinger kirjoitti:
On 24.11.2009 22:38, Anssi Hannula wrote:
Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
On 24.11.2009 19:22, Anssi Hannula wrote:
Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
On 24.11.2009 18:28, Jouni Karvo wrote:
Jouni Karvo kirjoitti:
> Rolf Ahrenberg kirjoitti: > > >> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Jouni Karvo wrote: >> >> >> >>> is there somewhere a patch that would remove the break when the >>> broadcaster uses "dynamic pids" (such as YLE). Now, when a programme >>> starts at YLE, they change the Audio PID number, leading to VDR >>> re-tuning or something, that leads to a 1-2s break in the show. There is >>> no change in frequency, so I don't see any reason why there is such a >>> break. >>> >>> >> As a quick fix just disable the pid updates ("Channel update: no/names >> only"). Yle is always using the same pid numbers although they're >> switching them on and off, so you can easily fix these numbers in your >> channel.conf. >> >> > > Tried this, but it seems it loses the subtitling PIDs. Is there a way to get both - subtitling and non-breaking TV viewing?
It might be interesting to learn why they do this "PID cycling" in the first place. Have you ever tried contacting them and asking why they do such a stupid thing?
Different programmes have a different number of languages, so the number of active pids changes. Isn't that correct behaviour?
Sure, but why "cycle" them through various values, and not use the same ones for the same languages?
As far as I can see they keep them the same, and VDR retunes just because the number of tracks changes.
As long as the PID switch takes place outside a show, that's of course ok. Switching them *inside* a show is IMHO not a good idea.
The change of active PIDs takes place when a show begins, causing 1-2s of stream to go missing due to the retune as Jouni described in the initial post.
It sure wouldn't hurt if they changed the PIDs a little earlier. Other channels do that.
True. I don't know, however, if it is reasonable to request YLE to change the pids before the actual programme stream starts.
It seems things look clearer. When the show starts, then within 1-2 seconds the break starts, then there is the break of 1-2 seconds, after that everything is smooth. The biggest actual annoyance is that nowadays the titles are often after the first scene, so there is a part of the actual show right in the beginning. It often happens that about 30 seconds of subtitling is lost at the beginning of the show; probably as it is sent during those precious first seconds.
yours, Jouni