Hallo
I found an interesting website about the Reelbox 'MediaCenter'. It uses VDR. Since a harddisc is an 'extra' the OS and VDR must be on an intergrated flash storage or something similar.
Some time ago there were some negative postings about that company here. Does anyone know details about that box?
Website and appearance of the box is quite smart.
Regards Peter
Hi!
The features are very interesting but I wonder :
How to Timeshift without Harddisk? (32 MB DiskOnAChip + 128 MB RAM is to small) How to Record 4 Stations on 4 transponders with only 2 DVB-S or does anybody know a card with integrated twin-tuner that additionally works under Linux? And last but not least, they list as feature HDTV compatibility, is there any card supported by Linux in the moment?
Regards
Marco
Peter Juszack schrieb:
I found an interesting website about the Reelbox 'MediaCenter'. It uses VDR. Since a harddisc is an 'extra' the OS and VDR must be on an intergrated flash storage or something similar. Some time ago there were some negative postings about that company here. Does anyone know details about that box? Website and appearance of the box is quite smart.
Marco Göbenich wrote:
How to Timeshift without Harddisk? (32 MB DiskOnAChip + 128 MB RAM is to small)
they are a little sloppy about the description of features (to there favorits, but have started to make "*" signs on some places)
And last but not least, they list as feature HDTV compatibility
just on the paper, as long they don't have a dvb-s2 tuner card for the reelbox (they have added the dvb-s2 tuner to there specs) it will be hard to proof that its working (IF, then i guess it will be max. 720p in h.264 with the BSP-15 chip inside the box) - i don't count mpeg2-hd-signal as real hdtv and a demo played from dvd is not the same as having a tuner and dolby digital to cope along with the video if you read the specs and then the posts from vdrportal.de whats really working (dolby digital, CSS protectes dvd´s, dvd creation) ...
just read a little on www.vdrportal.de (just ignore the comments about personal things and flames - on some points the discussion was a little bit religious like threads about windows/linux) and don't forget the reelbox forum, on some points you can string things together to guess what is not working
i will have a closer look on there next box (BSP-16?, dvb-s2, h.264-1080i)
there any card supported by Linux in the moment?
no there is no dvb-s2 capable card for linux, TechnoTrend may release a budget card in march (~130€) and lets hope the hardware is similar to the old budget (i don't think tey will have source for linux) so that someone can extend the normal dvb-s drivers beside this there is a survey on dvbportal.de what a TT-FF-DVB-S2 should have (if they ever release one)
Lars Bläser lars.blaeser@lycosxxl.de wrote:
no there is no dvb-s2 capable card for linux, TechnoTrend may release a budget card in march (~130???) and lets hope the hardware is similar to
KNC One has had an announcement for some weeks. It seems they are willing to talk about releasing specs to Linux developers. If someone is seriously interested in doing that, please contact me. (No I don't work for them, I just made the contact).
-> http://www.knc1.com/d/produkte/digital_dvb_s2_plus.htm
beside this there is a survey on dvbportal.de what a TT-FF-DVB-S2 should have (if they ever release one)
Dreams ...
Hi!
Minimum System requirements
* Intel kompatible CPU ab 2 GHz (ab 3.2 GHz Dual Core für HDTV) * min. 1 GByte RAM
I dont know if I should laugh or cry. We need a high end pc which produces pretty much heat and noise just to view non-recordable copy protected stuff.
Just whining :-(
Ciao, Mario
Mario Ivankovits mario@ops.co.at wrote:
Minimum System requirements
* Intel kompatible CPU ab 2 GHz (ab 3.2 GHz Dual Core für HDTV) * min. 1 GByte RAM
For Windoze...
I dont know if I should laugh or cry.
This is the basic issue regarding HDTV / DVB-S2 anyway.
We need a high end pc which produces pretty much heat and noise just to view non-recordable copy protected stuff.
I am not sure about that. The Windows drivers will make sure that the HD out is only active if HDCP has been authenticated properly. As for other drivers, I am not sure. There is no such thing like HDCP end-to-end (broadcasting station - TV set) encryption (or am I missing something here? Can somebody please shed some light on this?). That being said, HDTV streams will probably be encrypted by other means, meaning you will need a smart card or similar. We aren't talking about illegal watching here, are we?
The CPU horsepower issue will remain, though. Or you use a HDTV decoder card like the Sigmatel 8620 based ones, should a Linux driver ever exist.
So - don't give up that quickly...
Any takers for the DVB-S2 driver?
En/na Harald Milz ha escrit:
There is no such thing like HDCP end-to-end (broadcasting station - TV set) encryption (or am I missing something here? Can somebody please shed some light on this?).
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_nvidia_hdcp_support/
Bye
Luca Olivetti luca@ventoso.org wrote:
En/na Harald Milz ha escrit:
There is no such thing like HDCP end-to-end (broadcasting station - TV set) encryption (or am I missing something here? Can somebody please shed some light on this?).
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_nvidia_hdcp_support/
Slightly off-topic. This is about Windows Vista compatible (HDCP capable) computer monitors and playing back Blu-Ray or HD-DVD on Windows Vista. I am talking about the graphics card driver for Linux. Mind you, LCD flat panel TV sets are mostly HDCP capable now (if you pay attention when you buy) so this is not an issue.
The question is if anything in a DVB-S2 broadcasting requires / enforces the graphics card to HD ready TV set link (DVI or HDMI) to be HDCP encrypted. If you have a shrinkwrapped device (e.g. a Premiere set-top box) that requires a HDCP capable display you can't avoid having one. AFAIK the _device_ enforces HDCP not the broadcasting (this is different with HD-DVD or Blu-Ray but this is another story). If this is true, I can't see what the problem is...
En/na Harald Milz ha escrit:
Luca Olivetti luca@ventoso.org wrote:
En/na Harald Milz ha escrit:
There is no such thing like HDCP end-to-end (broadcasting station - TV set) encryption (or am I missing something here? Can somebody please shed some light on this?).
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_nvidia_hdcp_support/
Slightly off-topic. This is about Windows Vista compatible (HDCP capable) computer monitors and playing back Blu-Ray or HD-DVD on Windows Vista. I am talking about the graphics card driver for Linux. Mind you, LCD flat panel TV sets are mostly HDCP capable now (if you pay attention when you buy) so this is not an issue.
The question is if anything in a DVB-S2 broadcasting requires / enforces the graphics card to HD ready TV set link (DVI or HDMI) to be HDCP encrypted. If you have a shrinkwrapped device (e.g. a Premiere set-top box) that requires a HDCP capable display you can't avoid having one. AFAIK the _device_ enforces HDCP not the broadcasting (this is different with HD-DVD or Blu-Ray but this is another story). If this is true, I can't see what the problem is...
Well, I don't know how HDCP works (and I'm not really interested in HD at the moment) so I'm surely wrong, but the above link gave me the impression that there is some kind of end-to-end encryption, and every device in the chain has to cooperate if you want to see the full resolution, so if it is possible to keep it encrypted from the dvd to the tv/monitor it will surely be possible to do the same from the broadcaster to the tv/monitor.
Bye
Hi Harald!
We need a high end pc which produces pretty much heat and noise just to view non-recordable copy protected stuff.
There is no such thing like HDCP end-to-end (broadcasting station - TV set) encryption (or am I missing something here?
I think this is what THEY try to archive.
We aren't talking about illegal watching here, are we?
No, we are talking about having a harddisk recorder with all the comfort we currently have using the great VDR. Being able to do recording and timeshift. I have to admit I stopped exporting recordings to dvd (too error prone and due to self-destroing dvd medias), but having such a feature might be nice for others.
So - don't give up that quickly...
Ok.
Ciao, Mario
So - don't give up that quickly...
Ok.
In fact I think (if it comes like this) its a healing chance for our society. If we cant watch TV any more, we again have more time for our family, play games and to have social contacts.
Just to show, I am still positive - every bad has its good :-)
--- Mario
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