As most Intel Atom boards do not have more than 1 PCI slot (stupid rule by Intel), I found an way to circumvent that limitation
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2009/02/prweb2157454.htm
It is a USB-to-3-pci -slots adapter, and based on press release it is Linux compatible.
Immediately I started thinking of NVIDIA ION and such adapter for DVB cards.
Does anybody have experience on Ars Technologies -adapters on Linux.
- Jori
Hello Jori,
As most Intel Atom boards do not have more than 1 PCI slot (stupid rule by Intel), I found an way to circumvent that limitation
_http://www.prweb.com/releases/2009/02/prweb2157454.htm_
It is a USB-to-3-pci -slots adapter, and based on press release it is Linux compatible.
Immediately I started thinking of NVIDIA ION and such adapter for DVB cards.
Does anybody have experience on Ars Technologies -adapters on Linux.
You might want to re-read the press-release, and the details on the manufacturer page.
It needs a host adapter. This host adapter is available in either PCI, CardBus or ExpressBus format.
You might want to re-read the press-release, and the details on the
manufacturer page.
It needs a host adapter. This host adapter is available in either PCI,
CardBus or ExpressBus format.
Thanks, I re-read it and yes - you need a host card. So with host card (PCI) you could still use some other Atom mobo with 1 PCI slot to enhance it to 3 PCI slots. Maybe the USB-DVB -receives then might be the lowest cost route. But the problem is that I already have 3 PCI cards..
jori.hamalainen@teliasonera.com wrote:
You might want to re-read the press-release, and the details on the
manufacturer page.
It needs a host adapter. This host adapter is available in either PCI,
CardBus or ExpressBus format.
Thanks, I re-read it and yes - you need a host card. So with host card (PCI) you could still use some other Atom mobo with 1 PCI slot to enhance it to 3 PCI slots. Maybe the USB-DVB -receives then might be the lowest cost route. But the problem is that I already have 3 PCI cards..
There are already alternatives, if you have a single PCI slot available. I am using an external box with PCI slots in there. Works a treat.
Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote:
There are already alternatives, if you have a single PCI slot available. I am using an external box with PCI slots in there. Works a treat.
as multiple people have asked me in private mail (why do we have a mailing list *grml*), here is name of the box, I am using:
EXSYS PCI Express Bus zu 4 x PCI Slot Expansion Box EX-1010 (0004558-2008-LV)
On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 15:35 +0100, Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote:
as multiple people have asked me in private mail (why do we have a mailing list *grml*), here is name of the box, I am using:
EXSYS PCI Express Bus zu 4 x PCI Slot Expansion Box EX-1010 (0004558-2008-LV)
The EX-1010 is a bit short, so very long PCI cards like the full featured DVB cards won't fit. There's also the EX-1011, which is the same as the EX-1010 with a larger case, so long PCI cards fit.
I use both (on different computers), and they indeed work very well.
I ditched the "wall wart" (power supply) however and just supplied it from the PC power supply.
Tom
On Monday 02 March 2009, Thomas Sailer wrote:
On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 15:35 +0100, Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote:
as multiple people have asked me in private mail (why do we have a mailing list *grml*), here is name of the box, I am using:
EXSYS PCI Express Bus zu 4 x PCI Slot Expansion Box EX-1010 (0004558-2008-LV)
The EX-1010 is a bit short, so very long PCI cards like the full featured DVB cards won't fit. There's also the EX-1011, which is the same as the EX-1010 with a larger case, so long PCI cards fit.
I use both (on different computers), and they indeed work very well.
How much did you pay for these? I found some prices around 180€, that sounds surprisingly high to me.
I have myself thinked about the possibility of running vdr/xineliboutput client on low end systems that just have usb 2.0 but not any graphic cards or free pci slots available.
Has anybody experiences from the "usb vga" or "usb dvi" graphic card adapters like these?
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/adapter/usb-to-dvi-adapter-expands-screen-space-w... http://www.ipcmax.com/product_info.php?products_id=1238
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Mika Laitio lamikr@pilppa.org wrote:
I have myself thinked about the possibility of running vdr/xineliboutput client on low end systems that just have usb 2.0 but not any graphic cards or free pci slots available.
Has anybody experiences from the "usb vga" or "usb dvi" graphic card adapters like these?
I think the answer is here: "Sewell claims that these USB-driven monitors have the same quality as standard DVI monitors at displays of* up to 20-inches*" And what about all the GPU power? Someone has to handle MPEG decoding in hardware.
As I see it, if you want low power silent box in your living room you'll have to keep a server with cards/USBs somewhere in your basement. If I had a basement, that's exactly that I would do :)
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/adapter/usb-to-dvi-adapter-expands-screen-space-w... http://www.ipcmax.com/product_info.php?products_id=1238
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I have myself thinked about the possibility of running vdr/xineliboutput client on low end systems that just have usb 2.0 but not any graphic cards or free pci slots available.
Has anybody experiences from the "usb vga" or "usb dvi" graphic card adapters like these?
I think the answer is here: "Sewell claims that these USB-driven monitors have the same quality as standard DVI monitors at displays of* up to 20-inches*" And what about all the GPU power? Someone has to handle MPEG decoding in hardware.
As I see it, if you want low power silent box in your living room you'll have to keep a server with cards/USBs somewhere in your basement. If I had a basement, that's exactly that I would do :)
Well, at the moment I have amd X2 4850 cpu on my server and one of the client is about 10 year old Pentium III 733 mhz with 10 mb network card and and integrated intel graphich card. This client user vdr-xineliboutput to 20" VGA monitor and works very well with SD channels.
I have also tested streaming from VDR to Nokia N810 internet tablet. In that test I used the Streamdev plugin on server and mplayer on Nokia N810. (I have not tested xineliboutput with N810 because xine related libs seems to be hard to find for it and I did not had time by myself to start building everything for that...)
So it indicates that the client do not neccessary need to have so much power on client unless the USB graphich card is very different beast from the resource eating standpoint.
Mika
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Mika Laitio lamikr@pilppa.org wrote:
I have myself thinked about the possibility of running vdr/xineliboutput client on low end systems that just have usb 2.0 but not any graphic cards or free pci slots available.
Has anybody experiences from the "usb vga" or "usb dvi" graphic card adapters like these?
I think the answer is here: "Sewell claims that these USB-driven monitors have the same quality as standard DVI monitors at displays of* up to 20-inches*" And what about all the GPU power? Someone has to handle MPEG decoding in hardware.
As I see it, if you want low power silent box in your living room you'll have to keep a server with cards/USBs somewhere in your basement. If I
had a
basement, that's exactly that I would do :)
Well, at the moment I have amd X2 4850 cpu on my server and one of the client is about 10 year old Pentium III 733 mhz with 10 mb network card and and integrated intel graphich card. This client user vdr-xineliboutput to 20" VGA monitor and works very well with SD channels.
I have also tested streaming from VDR to Nokia N810 internet tablet. In that test I used the Streamdev plugin on server and mplayer on Nokia N810. (I have not tested xineliboutput with N810 because xine related libs seems to be hard to find for it and I did not had time by myself to start building everything for that...)
So it indicates that the client do not neccessary need to have so much power on client unless the USB graphich card is very different beast from the resource eating standpoint.
The life is going toward high definition. My E6600 can hardly handle that with CPU decoding. By low power silent box I mean an Atom based set-top box with integrated video chip - short term it's probably nVidia, but I think Intel will join that club pretty soon.
Mika
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Dear Mika,
Am Sonntag, den 08.03.2009, 10:53 +0200 schrieb Mika Laitio:
I have myself thinked about the possibility of running vdr/xineliboutput client on low end systems that just have usb 2.0 but not any graphic cards or free pci slots available.
So, does that mean, those boards do not have a graphic chip of any kind?
Has anybody experiences from the "usb vga" or "usb dvi" graphic card adapters like these?
Sorry, I do not.
Thanks,
Paul
jori.hamalainen@teliasonera.com wrote:
As most Intel Atom boards do not have more than 1 PCI slot (stupid rule by Intel), I found an way to circumvent that limitation
How about normal pci-riser?
http://www.logicsupply.com/products/pci201_32
Something like this.
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