The heat sources are the processor, the HDD and the DVB card (more if it is a full-featured one). The noise sources are the power supply (because this is the only one to the air out of the case) and the heatsink on th processor.
HDD is also a noise source. Proper rubber blocks can eliminate the noise conducted to the pc case and to your ear.
The bigger the fans, the better. The slower the fans, the better. Thus try to fit 8cm fans with a resistance in series to reduce speed (cf. www.silentpcreview.com)
There are fan controllers available at shops. They start fan with 12V/no modulation, to make them rotating for sure, and then slows RPM down with much better way than resistor. Electric motors can and should be guided with pulse width modulation (RC models uses this, try searching "rc electronic speed controller").
So on 12V, 1/12th modulation with 6 units on, fan's electric motor will see it as virtual 6V, but as real drive voltage is 12V, you'll get maximum torque out of your fan. And your fan rotates about half the maximum RPM. This is to make it simple, of course system isn't linear.
With 6V your fan doesn't neccessarily rotate, at least not start. And motor will endure much longer, and fan motor heat is minimal.
Finally, does anyone have any good ideas to minimise dust entry to the machine other than putting the machine inside a cabinet.
Dust covers which are sold or shred a vacuum cleaner bag as a DIY project.
Minimize fan speed -> minimize heat generation -> underclock the processor and take great care about the HDD you choose (rule of thumb : the lower the power requirements of the HDD, the lower the heat + the lower the rotational speed of the HDD, the lower the heat)
Choose 5400rpm disk, it can cope with multiple DVB-streams. Much less noise and heat.
Many HDD's can be 'underclocked'. 7200rpm disks can made to perform like 5400rpm one. Check "hdparm -B" for APM support. Check "hdparm -M" for acoustic management support.
Also HDD doesn't need to be running all the time, if your VDR is powered 24/7. Check noflushd for this. Works better than plain "hdparm -S".
jori.hamalainen@teliasonera.com a écrit :
The heat sources are the processor, the HDD and the DVB card (more if it is a full-featured one). The noise sources are the power supply (because this is the only one to the air out of the case) and the heatsink on th processor.
HDD is also a noise source. Proper rubber blocks can eliminate the noise conducted to the pc case and to your ear.
You're right, but I tend to now take HDD as near-silent, specially Seagate ones. There are two sources of noise : rotation + head movements. Seagates have both really low. Maxtor ahev low rotational-noise, but high head-movement noises, which are transmitted to the case. Rubber blocks are a good idea. I also suspended HDD with textile rubber bands. Take care of the heat in this case.
There are fan controllers available at shops. They start fan with 12V/no modulation, to make them rotating for sure, and then slows RPM down with much better way than resistor. Electric motors can and should be guided with pulse width modulation (RC models uses this, try searching "rc electronic speed controller").
This is also implemented in some hardware monitor chips, and known as PWM (pulse width modulation), and drivable using lm_sensor under linux. Really neat, but often not connected on the motherboard... I know that it exists on the chips on the Via EPIA M series, but not usable. What a pity...
Finally, does anyone have any good ideas to minimise dust entry to the machine other than putting the machine inside a cabinet.
Dust covers which are sold or shred a vacuum cleaner bag as a DIY project.
I tried this, but airflow is very impacted. It's better to have naturally low airflow (low fan speed) than to put a barrier on the path (air will pass elsewhere, and will accumulate dust where you don't expect it : in the DVD-tray opening, near the connector palates, etc.)
Many HDD's can be 'underclocked'. 7200rpm disks can made to perform like 5400rpm one. Check "hdparm -B" for APM support. Check "hdparm -M" for acoustic management support.
Acoustic management is really impressive on Maxtor, but the result is much noisier than Seagate. Head movements are simply smoother and a little slower, which increases latency (not a problem with huge files like VDR handles)
Also HDD doesn't need to be running all the time, if your VDR is powered 24/7. Check noflushd for this. Works better than plain "hdparm -S".
There is also a laptop-mode included in kernel 2.6. You simply set the timeout after which dirty block are written to disk. This lets the time to APM to spin down the HDD. Take into account that the spin-up will take seconds and reduce the HDD lifetime...
nhuillard@e-dition.fr(Nicolas Huillard) 23.03.05 13:03
jori.hamalainen@teliasonera.com a écrit :
The heat sources are the processor, the HDD and the DVB card (more if it is a full-featured one). The noise sources are the power supply (because this is the only one to the air out of the case) and the heatsink on th processor.
HDD is also a noise source. Proper rubber blocks can eliminate the noise conducted to the pc case and to your ear.
You're right, but I tend to now take HDD as near-silent, specially Seagate ones. There are two sources of noise : rotation + head movements. Seagates have both really low. Maxtor ahev low rotational-noise, but high head-movement noises, which are transmitted to the case. Rubber blocks are a good idea. I also suspended HDD with textile rubber bands. Take care of the heat in this case.
I use Samsung SV1604V 1600GB | 5400 rpm, available at reichelt.de at a very interessting price. (Many stupid resellers had stoppped selling 5400rpm disk because of the majority of their stupid customers are only asking for "big numbers".)
Samsung claims that SP1604N has lower power requirement than the SV1604V and has same extremly low noise (you have to place your ear on the drive to hear it rotating! (at least me have to ;-)))
BTW: Have not yet seen a broken Samsung. My oldest seems to become louder as time goes by, but not problem according to "smart". Maybe it was almays so "laod" ?
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