Hi all,
I wonder what am I doing wrong.
I've set up a script that will run vdr-sxfe in a loop. When I want to restart vdr-sxfe, I just kill it and the script is suppose to run it again.
The problem is that when this script is run in background (& at the end), the job is shown as "stopped". I've tried to run vdr-sxfe itself in background, it opens the window and the job stops. I know there is a switch that will run it in daemon mode, but that's not that good for the script I want to have.
Any ideas what can be wrong or any other ways to run vdr-sxfe from background?
Thanks.
Hi!
2009/2/20 Alex Betis alex.betis@gmail.com:
Hi all,
I wonder what am I doing wrong.
The problem is that when this script is run in background (& at the end), the job is shown as "stopped". I've tried to run vdr-sxfe itself in background, it opens the window and the job stops. I know there is a switch that will run it in daemon mode, but that's not that good for the script I want to have.
I think I hit the problem you are having before, but in my current solution I do not need to face it. Currently, I log in automatically via kdm, which loads KDE (could be xfce or whatever you want, though I haven't tested because currently I want to use KDE) and automatically runs a script (~/.kde/Autostart/vdr-sxfe.sh) that starts vdr-sxfe. I don't background the vdr-sxfe.sh process in the script. I have two loops there; the second is in case vdr-sxfe crashes, to restart vdr-sxfe (vdr-sxfe doesn't do that anymore quite often) and the second is for suspend / resume (some parts of lirc/VFD don't like suspend on my setup). The latter waits from the start of suspend until end of resume to restart vdr-sxfe. And, also it looks for the errorlevel of vdr-sxfe ehwn it exits; if it is not a "clean" one, it assumes it was not initiated by the user (and allows automatic shutdowns).
Do you really need to background vdr-sxfe the way you try to do it? On my setup, If I want to exit vdr-sxfe to use the desktop (actually, I don't need to do that but I can, also this disable automatic shutdowns on my setup via a kludge) I just press esc on my keyboard to shutdown vdr-sxfe (this leaves vdr running in the background). I have bound another button to restart vdr-sxfe again (to enable automatic shutdowns etc.). You could kill all running vdr-sxfe sessions whenever you run the script again (so that would actually work as a restart, too, Though, I don't need restarting vdr-sxfe, so I haven't done it). I can send my script if you need it.
The rest might be offtopic or not, but I think in general your problem is related to a lack of documentation / examples / init scripts etc. needed when configuring VDR to display via X (as opposed to a full featured card or some other deticated output device that doesn't require X) At least for gentoo there are nice init sciŕipts and configuration files for VDR and its plugins. But it seems that the init scripts assume that a user has a full-featured card or another deticated ouput device for the TV. But if one needs X for the display instead (which more and more users will be using for several reasons), I'm still really in the dark how to do that elegantly. Not even the vdr-sxfe documentation had examples / ideas of ho to achieve the automation! I.e. I want to have a VDR showing the picture via HDMI without having to log in and running vdr-sxfe manually every time.
The problem might actually lie in the several differen't use cases there are; some setup might only use the X for a deticated VDR, but some other users would need other software to run under the X session, too. In my case, I needed VDR to start automatically whenever I push the power button, but still have an easy way to switch to other prorams and / or desktop. Of course this is a complicated matter, as depending on the distribution / init scripts used, VDR might be run as root or a detidcated user 'vdr', but the additional software would not be run as such. I found the dilemma very confusing.
So, I had sevveral questions but no ready solutions / answers; How should I start X.org / Which user should I run X as? Which user should run vdr-sxfe (or some other X output backend)? And if I'm not using a client/server setup, how on earth am I going to start an X session before the init scripts run VDR, to play along nicely with the init scripts? Do I need to log in as user 'vdr' (to start an X session) before running VDR? Is it possible to allow the VDR process (which is run as the user 'vdr') to connect to a X sessions, which is "owned" by a different user?
Currently, I solved this via kdm's features and a script I made myself to run at the start of a session as a regular user, and chose vdr-sxfe to run as a client/server solution (this was the only solution I was able to run at all with the init scripts Gentoo came with). But I feel the script I made is really a dirty kludge =).
So I see there might be a need for documentation and solutions / examples on this kind of setups (at least I didn't find any if there already are). Can anyone point into such documentation? Does anyone have any good personal examples? How do you run your VDR with an X11 output? Do you use the VDR box for other uses? If yes, how do you integrate the other applications?
Hope this stirs some conversation =)
Wow... you write alot! :)
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Ville Aakko ville.aakko@gmail.com wrote:
Hi!
2009/2/20 Alex Betis alex.betis@gmail.com:
Hi all,
I wonder what am I doing wrong.
The problem is that when this script is run in background (& at the end), the job is shown as "stopped". I've tried to run vdr-sxfe itself in background, it opens the window and
the
job stops. I know there is a switch that will run it in daemon mode, but that's not that good for the script I want to have.
I think I hit the problem you are having before, but in my current solution I do not need to face it. Currently, I log in automatically via kdm, which loads KDE (could be xfce or whatever you want, though I haven't tested because currently I want to use KDE) and automatically runs a script (~/.kde/Autostart/vdr-sxfe.sh) that starts vdr-sxfe. I
I use gnome with auto login and it runs my vdr-sxfe.sh script as well.
don't background the vdr-sxfe.sh process in the script. I have two
Me too. In that case everything works fine, even if I kill the vdr-sxfe process and the script restarts it.
loops there; the second is in case vdr-sxfe crashes, to restart vdr-sxfe (vdr-sxfe doesn't do that anymore quite often) and the second
In my case vdr-sxfe doesn't crash, but it freezes on startup a lot. Restarting it generally helps.
is for suspend / resume (some parts of lirc/VFD don't like suspend on my setup). The latter waits from the start of suspend until end of resume to restart vdr-sxfe. And, also it looks for the errorlevel of
How did you implement the wait? With a flag-file that is set in suspend script and deleted after resume?
vdr-sxfe ehwn it exits; if it is not a "clean" one, it assumes it was not initiated by the user (and allows automatic shutdowns).
Good idea. I planned to kill both vdr-sxfe and vdr-sxfe.sh to use the desktop. I could also swtich to another desktop and leave the frontend running as is. Now we came to the real problem: when I kill the script, how do I restart it so it will run in foreground.
Do you really need to background vdr-sxfe the way you try to do it? On my setup, If I want to exit vdr-sxfe to use the desktop (actually, I don't need to do that but I can, also this disable automatic shutdowns on my setup via a kludge) I just press esc on my keyboard to shutdown vdr-sxfe (this leaves vdr running in the background). I have bound another button to restart vdr-sxfe again (to enable automatic shutdowns etc.). You could kill all running vdr-sxfe sessions whenever you run the script again (so that would actually work as a restart, too, Though, I don't need restarting vdr-sxfe, so I haven't done it). I can send my script if you need it.
Do you restart vdr-sxfe or the script? I need the script to be restarted and run in foreground. I didn't try using irexec yet, will try it later today. I hope it doesn't run the commands in background since it will not work for vdr-sxfe.
Please send the script, I might learn something from it. Thanks.
The rest might be offtopic or not, but I think in general your problem is related to a lack of documentation / examples / init scripts etc.
Agree.
needed when configuring VDR to display via X (as opposed to a full featured card or some other deticated output device that doesn't require X) At least for gentoo there are nice init sciŕipts and configuration files for VDR and its plugins. But it seems that the init scripts assume that a user has a full-featured card or another deticated ouput device for the TV. But if one needs X for the display instead (which more and more users will be using for several reasons), I'm still really in the dark how to do that elegantly. Not even the vdr-sxfe documentation had examples / ideas of ho to achieve the automation! I.e. I want to have a VDR showing the picture via HDMI without having to log in and running vdr-sxfe manually every time.
The problem might actually lie in the several differen't use cases there are; some setup might only use the X for a deticated VDR, but some other users would need other software to run under the X session, too. In my case, I needed VDR to start automatically whenever I push the power button, but still have an easy way to switch to other prorams and / or desktop. Of course this is a complicated matter, as depending on the distribution / init scripts used, VDR might be run as root or a detidcated user 'vdr', but the additional software would not be run as such. I found the dilemma very confusing.
So, I had sevveral questions but no ready solutions / answers; How should I start X.org / Which user should I run X as? Which user should run vdr-sxfe (or some other X output backend)? And if I'm not using a client/server setup, how on earth am I going to start an X session before the init scripts run VDR, to play along nicely with the init scripts? Do I need to log in as user 'vdr' (to start an X session) before running VDR? Is it possible to allow the VDR process (which is run as the user 'vdr') to connect to a X sessions, which is "owned" by a different user?
Currently, I solved this via kdm's features and a script I made myself to run at the start of a session as a regular user, and chose vdr-sxfe to run as a client/server solution (this was the only solution I was able to run at all with the init scripts Gentoo came with). But I feel the script I made is really a dirty kludge =).
So I see there might be a need for documentation and solutions / examples on this kind of setups (at least I didn't find any if there already are). Can anyone point into such documentation? Does anyone have any good personal examples? How do you run your VDR with an X11 output? Do you use the VDR box for other uses? If yes, how do you integrate the other applications?
Hope this stirs some conversation =)
-- Ville Aakko - ville.aakko@gmail.com
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Ville Aakko wrote:
So I see there might be a need for documentation and solutions / examples on this kind of setups (at least I didn't find any if there already are). Can anyone point into such documentation? Does anyone have any good personal examples? How do you run your VDR with an X11 output? Do you use the VDR box for other uses? If yes, how do you integrate the other applications?
I run my vdr with X11 output and use MythTV as media center to watch dvds and movie files(mythtv does not have TV cards configured). If I shutdown the MythTV I can use normal desktop enviroment if I need to. From mythtv I can start vdr-sxfe with small script with irxevent (which I run as normal user). I think that this solution work well for me.
Vdr is started with --lirc=/dev/null option to ensure that it does not read lirc by itself.
run_vdrsxfe script: irxevent & IRXPID=$! vdr-sxfe --fullscreen --audio=alsa --lirc xvdr://127.0.0.1 kill $IRXPID
lircrc: begin prog = irxevent button = Power repeat = 3 config = Key Escape VDR end
The system I run this is xubuntu. I did used to use kubuntu but there was some problem with KDE4 so I switch to xfce.
-Matti
pe, 2009-02-20 kello 22:02 +0200, Alex Betis kirjoitti:
The problem is that when this script is run in background (& at the end), the job is shown as "stopped". I've tried to run vdr-sxfe itself in background, it opens the window and the job stops. I know there is a switch that will run it in daemon mode, but that's not that good for the script I want to have.
Any ideas what can be wrong or any other ways to run vdr-sxfe from background?
Try --nokbd option for vdr-sxfe. Reading from console suspends application when it is running at background.
- Petri
Petri hintukainen wrote:
pe, 2009-02-20 kello 22:02 +0200, Alex Betis kirjoitti:
The problem is that when this script is run in background (& at the end), the job is shown as "stopped". I've tried to run vdr-sxfe itself in background, it opens the window and the job stops. I know there is a switch that will run it in daemon mode, but that's not that good for the script I want to have.
Any ideas what can be wrong or any other ways to run vdr-sxfe from background?
Try --nokbd option for vdr-sxfe. Reading from console suspends application when it is running at background.
Seems that this just appeared in CVS, is this also available in non-announced 1.0.4 version ?
CVS seems to work with vdr-1.7.4, tiny wishlist tho... - add key for subtitle into file remote.conf.example - trying to play dvd (Starship Troopers) does not show correct subtitles, wanted language is defined in VDR. Whats up duck :)
Lauri Tischler wrote:
- trying to play dvd (Starship Troopers) does not show correct subtitles, wanted language is defined in VDR.
Maybe this helps also for dvd?: http://www.kosunen.fi/vdr/matroska-subtitles.diff
Pertti Kosunen wrote:
Lauri Tischler wrote:
- trying to play dvd (Starship Troopers) does not show correct subtitles, wanted language is defined in VDR.
Maybe this helps also for dvd?: http://www.kosunen.fi/vdr/matroska-subtitles.diff
Does it work if user selects another language from DVD menus ?
- Petri
Petri hintukainen wrote:
Pertti Kosunen wrote:
Lauri Tischler wrote:
- trying to play dvd (Starship Troopers) does not show correct subtitles, wanted language is defined in VDR.
Maybe this helps also for dvd?: http://www.kosunen.fi/vdr/matroska-subtitles.diff
Does it work if user selects another language from DVD menus ?
DVD-menus dont show properly, only the frame shows, no text, so cant select language. :(
btw, several dvd's seem to use depreciated languagecode for hebrew (iw) instead of (he). Using both codes in tools/iso639.h at least removes the error from log. {"heb","he"}, {"heb","iw"},
Lauri Tischler wrote:
Petri hintukainen wrote:
Try --nokbd option for vdr-sxfe. Reading from console suspends application when it is running at background.
Seems that this just appeared in CVS, is this also available in non-announced 1.0.4 version ?
--nokbd option has been there for several years...
- Petri
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