-----Original message----- From: Torgeir Veimo torgeir@pobox.com Sent: Mon 01-12-2008 12:58 To: VDR Mailing List vdr@linuxtv.org; Subject: Re: [vdr] MythTV Adds Support For NVIDIA VDPAU
On 1 Dec 2008, at 21:49, Magnus Hörlin wrote:
I have introduced VDR to at least 20 people (mostly windows-users) over the years, but this may be the day it ends.
It appears you think that VDR will never get a plugin that can utilise the VDPAU (or similar) api?
Why should it depend on VDR or its plugins? The only reason when VDPAU would be used, is in combination with software based device output plugins like the xine & xineliboutput. As soon as Xine supports VDPAU, then the VDR plugins *should* support it as well.
For other (read: hardware) output devices, VDPAU isn't used at all.
And from my point of view, MythTV is still not as accesible compared too for instance Mediaportal or Microsoft MCE. IMHO, the best combo is still VDR for DVB viewing in combination with XBMC for multimedia viewing. But then again, this is my oppinion :-)
Regards,
Niels Wagenaar
I've been hearing tons of people talking about VDPAU and I too hope we see support for it in one way or another in VDR. If not, we'll certainly lose even more users to MythTV. I suppose the good news is that h264/HDTV/mpeg-ts are priorities for VDR at least! Hopefully we'll see something soon. :)
Hello, On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 07:20:57AM -0800, VDR User wrote:
I've been hearing tons of people talking about VDPAU and I too hope we see support for it in one way or another in VDR. If not, we'll certainly lose even more users to MythTV. I suppose the good news is that h264/HDTV/mpeg-ts are priorities for VDR at least! Hopefully we'll see something soon. :)
Adding vdpau support can be done in one of the soft(devices). It is not related to core vdr! Maybe softdevice can do this. If xinelib adds support for this it should work in vdr too. So i am a bit confused what the mythtv guys have implemented now! HTH. halim
MythTV includes its own software player and VDPAU support was added directly into it.
Here are the changes, http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/19165
I'm sure it'll make its way into xine as well. Of course we can gripe about it day and night until it does, right ;) And yes, there's really no reason to work on this in core VDR or softdevice at all, time would be better spent in getting it into xine and testing it.
- Vaizki
-----Original Message----- From: vdr-bounces@linuxtv.org [mailto:vdr-bounces@linuxtv.org] On Behalf Of Halim Sahin Sent: 1. joulukuuta 2008 18:03 To: vdr@linuxtv.org Subject: Re: [vdr] MythTV Adds Support For NVIDIA VDPAU
Hello, On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 07:20:57AM -0800, VDR User wrote:
I've been hearing tons of people talking about VDPAU and I too hope we see support for it in one way or another in VDR. If not, we'll certainly lose even more users to MythTV. I suppose the good news is that h264/HDTV/mpeg-ts are priorities for VDR at least! Hopefully we'll see something soon. :)
Adding vdpau support can be done in one of the soft(devices). It is not related to core vdr! Maybe softdevice can do this. If xinelib adds support for this it should work in vdr too. So i am a bit confused what the mythtv guys have implemented now! HTH. halim
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And from my point of view, MythTV is still not as accesible compared too for instance Mediaportal or Microsoft MCE. IMHO, the best combo is still VDR for DVB viewing in combination with XBMC for multimedia viewing. But then again, this is my oppinion :-)
Regards,
Niels Wagenaar
I agree. Do you have a working script or a good way to switch between xbmc and vdr? There are a few threads about this at http://xbmc.org/forum/ but no good solution. I want to use vdr as I use it today with fast channelswitching and without http connection to streamdev plugin.
/Magnus
I have introduced VDR to at least 20 people (mostly windows-users) over the years, but this may be the day it ends.
It appears you think that VDR will never get a plugin that can utilise the VDPAU (or similar) api?
Why should it depend on VDR or its plugins? The only reason when VDPAU would be used, is in combination with software based device output plugins like the xine & xineliboutput. As soon as Xine supports VDPAU, then the VDR plugins *should* support it as well.
For other (read: hardware) output devices, VDPAU isn't used at all.
And from my point of view, MythTV is still not as accesible compared too for instance Mediaportal or Microsoft MCE. IMHO, the best combo is still VDR for DVB viewing in combination with XBMC for multimedia viewing. But then again, this is my oppinion :-)
I hope in nearly future we will have 2 variants -
xine-lib with external ffmpeg supported vdpau and xine-lib with vdpau support without ffmpeg
Goga
Niels Wagenaar wrote:
-----Original message----- From: Torgeir Veimo torgeir@pobox.com Sent: Mon 01-12-2008 12:58 To: VDR Mailing List vdr@linuxtv.org; Subject: Re: [vdr] MythTV Adds Support For NVIDIA VDPAU
On 1 Dec 2008, at 21:49, Magnus Hörlin wrote:
I have introduced VDR to at least 20 people (mostly windows-users) over the years, but this may be the day it ends.
It appears you think that VDR will never get a plugin that can utilise the VDPAU (or similar) api?
Why should it depend on VDR or its plugins? The only reason when VDPAU would be used, is in combination with software based device output plugins like the xine & xineliboutput. As soon as Xine supports VDPAU, then the VDR plugins *should* support it as well.
For other (read: hardware) output devices, VDPAU isn't used at all.
And from my point of view, MythTV is still not as accesible compared too for instance Mediaportal or Microsoft MCE. IMHO, the best combo is still VDR for DVB viewing in combination with XBMC for multimedia viewing. But then again, this is my oppinion :-)
Regards,
Niels Wagenaar
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Yes, I've heard som nice things about XBMC lately so maybe I'll check it out. My second look at Myth didn't impress me more than it did five years ago. I think I'll stick to VDR awhile longer mostly since I know it in and out, and that I think highly of Klaus. Installing Myth was the same as it was last time and I couldn't even get it to lock with my multiproto drivers. I had hoped that Myth had more documentation by now and that it would be a lot easier to install, but I guess I was wrong. I couldn't find anything that matches Reinhard's Howto's for instance. It seems most Myth users install distro packages, but I prefer compiling "bleeding edge" myself. And that's what it takes to get VDPAU running. I don't have time for this right now so I'll just wait for Christmas and hope that by then I can have VDR with native .ts, h.264 and S2API (although I fully understand that Klaus has issues with it!) and xine with VDPAU. And maybe XBMC together with some trick lirc-controlled scripts to switch between that and VDR. If not, maybe I'll have another go at Myth. But I hope I won't have to... /Magnus H
"bleeding edge" myself. And that's what it takes to get VDPAU running. I don't have time for this right now so I'll just wait for Christmas and hope that by then I can have VDR with native .ts, h.264 and S2API (although I fully understand that Klaus has issues with it!) and xine with VDPAU.
who will be Santa Klaus ? :)
Goga
Goga777 wrote:
"bleeding edge" myself. And that's what it takes to get VDPAU running. I don't have time for this right now so I'll just wait for Christmas and hope that by then I can have VDR with native .ts, h.264 and S2API (although I fully understand that Klaus has issues with it!) and xine with VDPAU.
who will be Santa Klaus ? :)
Goga
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It would have been nice if it could have been me, but I'm a hardware design engineer so this is a bit over my head at the moment. But I think I'll switch to software some day. It's more fun! /Magnus H
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