Hi,
I have wondered for some time how broad has VDR spread and how is it really used. So, if people could post their location and the type of broadcast they are receiving, we could get some kind of understanding about the state of DVB (or ATSC) as it is now. Just a brief description, using myself as an example:
Country: Finland Transmission: DVB-C Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD (tens of channels) and h.264 for HD (less than 10 channels)
The main point is to get an idea of the standards used across the globe. I know that wiki etc give some idea, but you can never beat the first hand information.
-Petri
Country: USA Transmission: DVB-S/DVB-S2 (soon) Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD, h.264 for HD (>100 channels)
Country: Germany Transmission: DVB-C, DVB-S Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD
Country: Finland Transmission: DVB-T, DVB-S/S2 Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD (lots of them) and H.264 for HD (about 10)
Country: Sweden Transmission: DVB-T Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD (~15)
Country: Finland Transmission: DVB-T, DVB-S/S2 Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD (lots of them) and H.264 for HD (about 10)
I'd add: What is on the news DVB-T2 expected for terrestrial HD. Now there are 2 T-based HD licenses open in Finland, I really hope FTA channels gets those licenses. And after 2 HD channels gets the permit to broadcast, they most probably will come to DVB-C as well.
Country: Finland Transmission: DVB-C Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD ~30 channels. HD ( h.264) is available but Im not
watchin yet.:)
And for DVB-C -based HD starting from April fool's day "Cable HD ready" compatibility is needed (card pairing). Goodbye open software. So I lost my interest on VDR & HD until commercial channels bring FTA HD-channels. So I returned my commercial DVB-C HD package with compliments.
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This "Cable HD ready" is a requirement by Hollywood for 'premium' content. Premium content is the same sh*t what already comes in SD just in HD. With this I mean Discovery HD versus Discovery. Quality is different but the content is the same.
I don't know where is the truth (not out there) and what is an explanation to justify what they are doing. On "Cable HD Ready" I can just find Finnish text. Nothing on Germany / UK etc. It is supposed to be Universal requirement and standard set by the real content owners. "You cannot license our HD channels on your network unless you have card pairing".
http://www.ci-plus.com/ = standard for linked card CI interface what is needed for "Cable HD Ready".
Good thing is that set-top-boxes are open for commercial competition. So for Canal Digital HD you will have a choise to use some other vendor box. Bad thing is that no non-commercial device will get the licenses and needed encryption keys.
- Jori
Country: Germany Transmission: DVB-S(DVB-S2 soon to come) Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD, h.264 for HD
Country: Poland, Poznan Transmission: DVB-T Encoding: MPEG-2 (3 chanels) and h.264 (4 channels) for SD h.264 for HD (1 channel)
Country: Finland Transmission: DVB-C Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD.
I haven't watched any HD channels although I have the hardware to display them. I don't watch that much TV, actually, now that I think of it. I like the setting up of a HDTV more than watching TV =)
Country: Finland Transmission: DVB-C Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD (tens)
Few for HD, I think. I don't know for sure, because I've got only an old fashion tv.
Country: Estonia Transmission: DVB-C, DVB-T, DVB-S Encoding: MPEG-2 for DVB-C and DVB-S, H264 for DVB-T
Few for DVB-T HD (H264) and DVB-C HD (MPEG-2 and H264).
Country: Finland Transmission: DVB-C Encoding: MPEG-2 (110 channels)
Country: South Africa Transmission: DVB-S
Encoding: MPEG-2 (2 channels) Free to Air MPEG-2 (4 channels) NagraVision MPEG-2 (50 channels) irdeto 2 + 1 HD channel, assuming still in MPEG-2 720p
Country: Germany Transmission: DVB-C Encoding: MPEG-2 (~ 100 FTA + 250 encrypted) H.264 1080i (1 FTA + 2 encrypted)
Country: UK (receiving Astra 28.2E, Astra 19.2E and Hotbird-13E) Transmission: DVB-S, DVB-S2 (DVB-T technically available but locally poor reception) Encoding: MPEG-2 SD, H.264 Hardware: Hauppauge NOVA PCI (DVB-S), Hauppauge HVR4000 (DVB-S/S2) (-T available but untested)
Country: Finland Transmission: DVB-C Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD ~30 channels. HD ( h.264) is available but Im not watchin yet.:)
- Marko
Country: Germany Transmission: DVB-S(DVB-S2 soon to come) Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD, h.264 for HD
Country: Ukraine, Lviv Transmission: DVB-S, DVB-T, (DVB-S2 is expected to come) Encoding: MPEG-2 (about 25 channels), h.264 HD channels I'm not watching...
Waiting for a stable version of VDR with HDTV (1.7.x or 1.8) 'cause I don't have enough time for experiments.
Country: Germany Transmission: DVB-S and DVB-S2 Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD, H.264 for HD
Country: UK Transmission: DVB-T & recently experimenting with DVB-S Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD (tens of channels) Hardware: 2 Win-TV budget cards, 1 Nexus for TV-OUT and some DVB-S tests
Cheers, Jan
2009/3/18 Petri Helin phelin@googlemail.com:
Hi,
I have wondered for some time how broad has VDR spread and how is it really used. So, if people could post their location and the type of broadcast they are receiving, we could get some kind of understanding about the state of DVB (or ATSC) as it is now. Just a brief description, using myself as an example:
Country: Finland Transmission: DVB-C Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD (tens of channels) and h.264 for HD (less than 10 channels)
The main point is to get an idea of the standards used across the globe. I know that wiki etc give some idea, but you can never beat the first hand information.
-Petri
vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Country: UK Transmission: DVB-T Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD (currently 109 TV & radio channels) Hardware: DVB-T budget card, Hauppauge MVP with VOMP plug-in.
Dave
Country: Germany Transmission: DVB-S(DVB-S2 on Test system) Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD, h.264 for HD
Falk
Country: Austria Transmission: DVB-S, DVB-S2 Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD, H.264 for HD (4 channels on Astra)
Michael
Country: Russia Transmission: DVB-S, DVB-S2, DVB-T (soon) Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD, H.264 for SD/HD
Goga
Country: Germany (Berlin) Transmission: DVB-T Encoding: MPEG-2 SD (27 stations) Receivers: - MSI digiVox mini II rev.3 (af9015 driver) - Fujitsu-Siemens DVB-T Mobile TV Tuner (vp7045) (and still looking for a receider with lower power consumption)
-henrik
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:21:03 +0200, Petri Helin wrote:
Hi,
I have wondered for some time how broad has VDR spread and how is it really used.
Country: UK (Scotland) Transmission: DVB-S (Astra 28.2, Astra 19.2, Hotbird 13.0), DVB-T (Angus Tx) Encoding: DVB-T: MPEG2 for 10s of SD channels, DVB-S: MPEG2 for 100s of SD channels and H.264 for HD (1 channel) Hardware: receiver system with VDR 1.6.0 has 1xDVB-S 1.3 FF card, 1xDVB-S budget, 1xDVB-T budget; secondary system running VDR 1.6.0 with streamdev-client + xineliboutput; 1xHauppage MVP running VOMP client; HD only watchable via streamdev to my Windows workstation in my office (the only PC in the house that is powerful enough to decode HD).
Country: Italy Transmission: DVB-S, DVB-T (We have DVB-S2 too but I watch that on a Dreambox) Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD (3 sats - about 4000 channels), (40 for DVB-T mostly rubbish).
Country: Italy Transmission: DVB-T and DVB-S Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD (a lot of them using an Stab H-H rotor), (40 for DVB-T mostly already present in satellites).
Hardware: 1 Nexus for TV-OUT and Terratec 1400 for DVB-T
Country: UK Transmission: DVB-T, DVB-S/S2 Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD (150+) and H.264 for HD (about 10-15)
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Petri Helin phelin@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi,
I have wondered for some time how broad has VDR spread and how is it really used. So, if people could post their location and the type of broadcast they are receiving, we could get some kind of understanding about the state of DVB (or ATSC) as it is now. Just a brief description, using myself as an example:
Country: Finland Transmission: DVB-C Encoding: MPEG-2 for SD (tens of channels) and h.264 for HD (less than 10 channels)
The main point is to get an idea of the standards used across the globe. I know that wiki etc give some idea, but you can never beat the first hand information.
-Petri
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