Hi. Some satellites have many channels with same sid, nid, tid on different transponders. This is incorrect pid table, and vdr works with it not good, need scan channels and change rid manually, but if you select "transponder update" all you settings will be rewrite and channels deleted as duplicate. I have this trouble on ABS1 75.0 E and Express AM2 80.0 E, and I have very many channels with same pids on my iptv stream. After this patch, vdr parsing duplicate pids, and if transponders is not equal, channel not deleted, but rid wil be increased. If pids and transponders are equal, channel will be deleted as duplicate. Patch was made for vdr-1.5.12, but works with 1.5.15 too. Attached 3 patches, for native vdr and vdr + iptv plugin patched and for native reelchannelscan-0.4.1 plugin (include patch for 1.5.xx).
On 02/22/08 04:29, ua0lnj wrote:
Hi. Some satellites have many channels with same sid, nid, tid on different transponders. This is incorrect pid table, and vdr works with it not good, need scan channels and change rid manually, but if you select "transponder update" all you settings will be rewrite and channels deleted as duplicate. I have this trouble on ABS1 75.0 E and Express AM2 80.0 E, and I have very many channels with same pids on my iptv stream. After this patch, vdr parsing duplicate pids, and if transponders is not equal, channel not deleted, but rid wil be increased. If pids and transponders are equal, channel will be deleted as duplicate. Patch was made for vdr-1.5.12, but works with 1.5.15 too. Attached 3 patches, for native vdr and vdr + iptv plugin patched and for native reelchannelscan-0.4.1 plugin (include patch for 1.5.xx).
First of all, there is no cChannel::PluginParam() in plain vanilla VDR 1.5.15.
Secondly, as far as I understand this, the triplet SID/NID/TID is supposed to be unique within one satellite. Can you point me to a standard document that would indicate otherwise?
Klaus
Hi 1. cChannel::PluginParam() need for iptv plugin. sorry, i was attached bad version for native vdr. See attach for this message.
2. You right of cause, the triplet SID/NID/TID is supposed to be unique within one satellite, but in really we have incorrect pid tables on many satellites, and in local iptv networks. Example, see http://www.lyngsat.com/eam2.html, some channels have equal pids: 11650V, 11190H, and 11044H too. This is fault of sat providers, but we have it as is. And be a fine, if vdr can works correct with such channels, without editing channel.conf manually.
On Sat, 23/02/2008 18:03 +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
On 02/22/08 04:29, ua0lnj wrote:
Hi. Some satellites have many channels with same sid, nid, tid on different transponders. This is incorrect pid table, and vdr works with it not good, need scan channels and change rid manually, but if you select "transponder update" all you settings will be rewrite and channels deleted as duplicate. I have this trouble on ABS1 75.0 E and Express AM2 80.0 E, and I have very many channels with same pids on my iptv stream. After this patch, vdr parsing duplicate pids, and if transponders is not equal, channel not deleted, but rid wil be increased. If pids and transponders are equal, channel will be deleted as duplicate. Patch was made for vdr-1.5.12, but works with 1.5.15 too. Attached 3 patches, for native vdr and vdr + iptv plugin patched and for native reelchannelscan-0.4.1 plugin (include patch for 1.5.xx).
First of all, there is no cChannel::PluginParam() in plain vanilla VDR 1.5.15.
Secondly, as far as I understand this, the triplet SID/NID/TID is supposed to be unique within one satellite. Can you point me to a standard document that would indicate otherwise?
Klaus
vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
On 02/24/08 07:20, ua0lnj wrote:
Hi
- cChannel::PluginParam() need for iptv plugin.
sorry, i was attached bad version for native vdr. See attach for this message.
- You right of cause, the triplet SID/NID/TID is supposed to be unique
within one satellite, but in really we have incorrect pid tables on many satellites, and in local iptv networks. Example, see http://www.lyngsat.com/eam2.html, some channels have equal pids: 11650V, 11190H, and 11044H too. This is fault of sat providers, but we have it as is. And be a fine, if vdr can works correct with such channels, without editing channel.conf manually.
Have you ever tried complaining to those providers, telling them about their non-standard behavior?
If we always just work around the provider's faults, we're never going to get standard behavior...
Klaus
On Sat, 23/02/2008 18:03 +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
On 02/22/08 04:29, ua0lnj wrote:
Hi. Some satellites have many channels with same sid, nid, tid on different transponders. This is incorrect pid table, and vdr works with it not good, need scan channels and change rid manually, but if you select "transponder update" all you settings will be rewrite and channels deleted as duplicate. I have this trouble on ABS1 75.0 E and Express AM2 80.0 E, and I have very many channels with same pids on my iptv stream. After this patch, vdr parsing duplicate pids, and if transponders is not equal, channel not deleted, but rid wil be increased. If pids and transponders are equal, channel will be deleted as duplicate. Patch was made for vdr-1.5.12, but works with 1.5.15 too. Attached 3 patches, for native vdr and vdr + iptv plugin patched and for native reelchannelscan-0.4.1 plugin (include patch for 1.5.xx).
First of all, there is no cChannel::PluginParam() in plain vanilla VDR 1.5.15.
Secondly, as far as I understand this, the triplet SID/NID/TID is supposed to be unique within one satellite. Can you point me to a standard document that would indicate otherwise?
Klaus
On 02/24/08 12:35, Igor wrote:
Have you ever tried complaining to those providers, telling them about their non-standard behavior?
I have tried. Several times. No results.
I wonder why these people think that the DVB standards don't apply to them...
I can confirm that only VDR has this problem. Other receivers (dreambox for example) don't have this problem.
Does this mean that the dreambox doesn't identify channels using NID/TID/SID?
VDR itself doesn't use the RID, and I don't like starting to use it just to iron out the inability of some providers to adhere to the standard. I'd rather like to get rid of the RID altogether.
Klaus
I think, may be not need use rid, but add new parameter for channel identify, such as transponder example, or add some variants of identify and select it in settings... Nid/Tid/Sid or Transponder/Channel Name or Transponder/Sid/Tid... Because wanted use "transponder update" and don't want edit channel.conf manually...
В Вск, 24/02/2008 в 15:00 +0100, Klaus Schmidinger пишет:
On 02/24/08 12:35, Igor wrote:
Have you ever tried complaining to those providers, telling them about their non-standard behavior?
I have tried. Several times. No results.
I wonder why these people think that the DVB standards don't apply to them...
I can confirm that only VDR has this problem. Other receivers (dreambox for example) don't have this problem.
Does this mean that the dreambox doesn't identify channels using NID/TID/SID?
VDR itself doesn't use the RID, and I don't like starting to use it just to iron out the inability of some providers to adhere to the standard. I'd rather like to get rid of the RID altogether.
Klaus
vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Trying working with NA sats. At least in Europe you have standards. Here the only standard is that there is no standard. For example, on 97w after using a custome scanner, if I allow VDR to auto update channel names, then surf through the channels with a fresh conf, some channels dissapear, others get renamed to wrong names, etc.. Using yaepg while fliping through I can see some channels get shuffled and renamed.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Klaus Schmidinger" Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de To: vdr@linuxtv.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [vdr] [patch] channels with same pids
On 02/24/08 12:35, Igor wrote:
Have you ever tried complaining to those providers, telling them about their non-standard behavior?
I have tried. Several times. No results.
I wonder why these people think that the DVB standards don't apply to
them...
I can confirm that only VDR has this problem. Other receivers (dreambox
for example) don't have this problem.
Does this mean that the dreambox doesn't identify channels using
NID/TID/SID?
VDR itself doesn't use the RID, and I don't like starting to use it just to iron out the inability of some providers to adhere to the
standard.
I'd rather like to get rid of the RID altogether.
Klaus
vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
On Sun, 2008-02-24 at 10:34 +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
On 02/24/08 07:20, ua0lnj wrote:
Hi
- cChannel::PluginParam() need for iptv plugin.
sorry, i was attached bad version for native vdr. See attach for this message.
- You right of cause, the triplet SID/NID/TID is supposed to be unique
within one satellite, but in really we have incorrect pid tables on many satellites, and in local iptv networks. Example, see http://www.lyngsat.com/eam2.html, some channels have equal pids: 11650V, 11190H, and 11044H too. This is fault of sat providers, but we have it as is. And be a fine, if vdr can works correct with such channels, without editing channel.conf manually.
Have you ever tried complaining to those providers, telling them about their non-standard behavior?
If we always just work around the provider's faults, we're never going to get standard behavior...
Satellites are a multi-million dollar business. Do we really think that a few VDR users complaining that they cannot use their particular choice of receiver (VDR) is going to make a difference?
Klaus
On Sat, 23/02/2008 18:03 +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
On 02/22/08 04:29, ua0lnj wrote:
Hi. Some satellites have many channels with same sid, nid, tid on different transponders. This is incorrect pid table, and vdr works with it not good, need scan channels and change rid manually, but if you select "transponder update" all you settings will be rewrite and channels deleted as duplicate. I have this trouble on ABS1 75.0 E and Express AM2 80.0 E, and I have very many channels with same pids on my iptv stream. After this patch, vdr parsing duplicate pids, and if transponders is not equal, channel not deleted, but rid wil be increased. If pids and transponders are equal, channel will be deleted as duplicate. Patch was made for vdr-1.5.12, but works with 1.5.15 too. Attached 3 patches, for native vdr and vdr + iptv plugin patched and for native reelchannelscan-0.4.1 plugin (include patch for 1.5.xx).
First of all, there is no cChannel::PluginParam() in plain vanilla VDR 1.5.15.
Secondly, as far as I understand this, the triplet SID/NID/TID is supposed to be unique within one satellite. Can you point me to a standard document that would indicate otherwise?
Klaus
vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
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