It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally named "OSM" - On Screen Menu) was released.
I want to use the occasion to thank everybody who has contributed to VDR, but also those who simply use VDR in their every day life. I for one couldn't imagine watching tv without VDR any more. Special thanks go to the people running the VDR-Portal (www.vdr-portal.de).
Originally I intended to release version 2.0 of VDR at the 10th anniversary, but as ever so often, I ran out of time. But I'm still on it - stability comes before deadlines ;-)
I hope you don't think I'm blowing my own horn here, I just didn't want the date to pass by without a remark...
Klaus
Congratulations! You and everybody who contributes does a great job. Don't bother about deadlines, there is a life beyond watching TV! Thank you for having such a stable system.
Helge.
Klaus Schmidinger schrieb:
It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally named "OSM" - On Screen Menu) was released.
I want to use the occasion to thank everybody who has contributed to VDR, but also those who simply use VDR in their every day life. I for one couldn't imagine watching tv without VDR any more. Special thanks go to the people running the VDR-Portal (www.vdr-portal.de).
Originally I intended to release version 2.0 of VDR at the 10th anniversary, but as ever so often, I ran out of time. But I'm still on it - stability comes before deadlines ;-)
I hope you don't think I'm blowing my own horn here, I just didn't want the date to pass by without a remark...
Klaus
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Congratulations Klaus, Thank you and all other contributors for doing a great job with vdr. Regards Halim
Halim Sahin wrote:
Congratulations Klaus, Thank you and all other contributors for doing a great job with vdr. Regards Halim
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I agree with Klaus, my wife and I couldn't imagine watching TV without VDR anymore.
"Software done right!"
Thanks very much for all the work that went into this.
Cheers Brian
Congratulations Klaus and all the contributors and thanks a LOT for this great piece of software.
I'm using VDR on a regular basis since 2002. Keep up the good work =)
BR Karsten
Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally named "OSM" - On Screen Menu) was released.
I want to use the occasion to thank everybody who has contributed to VDR, but also those who simply use VDR in their every day life. I for one couldn't imagine watching tv without VDR any more. Special thanks go to the people running the VDR-Portal (www.vdr-portal.de).
Originally I intended to release version 2.0 of VDR at the 10th anniversary, but as ever so often, I ran out of time. But I'm still on it - stability comes before deadlines ;-)
I hope you don't think I'm blowing my own horn here, I just didn't want the date to pass by without a remark...
Klaus
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I have been using (and making some humble contributions to) VDR since June 7th, 2000. So it is going to be another 4 months until I can celebrate "my" 10 Year Anniversary of VDR.
It has always been a pleasure.
Thanks, Klaus!
Carsten.
Happy birthday VDR! I too have been using it for several years but never knew it's first name. I'm glad to see support and interest in the software is still going strong, hopefully something that doesn't change any time soon. Like the posts before me, I couldn't imagine not using VDR on a daily basis -- nor would I want to. It's also great to see it maturing into more then what may have been originally planned.
Thanks to everyone who has lent a hand in making VDR what it is and what it will become in the future. Next round of drinks are on me! :)
Cheers
Hello Klaus,
congratulations to you and all the other contributors! I'm happy to use this little piece of software.
Hope you go on with your work!
Thanks!
Thomas
Am 19.02.2010 17:09, schrieb Klaus Schmidinger:
It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally named "OSM" - On Screen Menu) was released.
I want to use the occasion to thank everybody who has contributed to VDR, but also those who simply use VDR in their every day life. I for one couldn't imagine watching tv without VDR any more. Special thanks go to the people running the VDR-Portal (www.vdr-portal.de).
Originally I intended to release version 2.0 of VDR at the 10th anniversary, but as ever so often, I ran out of time. But I'm still on it - stability comes before deadlines ;-)
I hope you don't think I'm blowing my own horn here, I just didn't want the date to pass by without a remark...
Klaus
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Congratulations for your great job.
I've been using vdr for about 1 year her in Brazil. (FAT Satellite DVB TV)
I could not imagine myself using DVB card in XP again...
Thanks
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Thomas Niemeier news@tn-x.de wrote:
Hello Klaus,
congratulations to you and all the other contributors! I'm happy to use this little piece of software.
Hope you go on with your work!
Thanks!
Thomas
Am 19.02.2010 17:09, schrieb Klaus Schmidinger:
It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally named "OSM" - On Screen Menu) was released.
I want to use the occasion to thank everybody who has contributed to VDR, but also those who simply use VDR in their every day life. I for one couldn't imagine watching tv without VDR any more. Special thanks go to the people running the VDR-Portal (www.vdr-portal.de).
Originally I intended to release version 2.0 of VDR at the 10th anniversary, but as ever so often, I ran out of time. But I'm still on it - stability comes before deadlines ;-)
I hope you don't think I'm blowing my own horn here, I just didn't want the date to pass by without a remark...
Klaus
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En/na Klaus Schmidinger ha escrit:
Originally I intended to release version 2.0 of VDR at the 10th anniversary, but as ever so often, I ran out of time. But I'm still on it - stability comes before deadlines ;-)
Hey, we can wait for the 15th anniversary ;-) And I hope we're still here for the 20th, 30th and so on :-D
Congratulations!
Bye
I demand that Klaus Schmidinger may or may not have written...
It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally named "OSM" - On Screen Menu) was released.
Ahem.
"year" + "anniversary" == tautology...
[snip]
On 19.02.2010 20:12, Darren Salt wrote:
I demand that Klaus Schmidinger may or may not have written...
It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally named "OSM" - On Screen Menu) was released.
Ahem.
"year" + "anniversary" == tautology...
I'm sure you're right, however...
http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&tab=gw#&q=%2210+Year+Anniversary"
-> about 7,600,000 hits ;-)
Klaus
I demand that Klaus Schmidinger may or may not have written...
On 19.02.2010 20:12, Darren Salt wrote:
I demand that Klaus Schmidinger may or may not have written...
It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally named "OSM" - On Screen Menu) was released.
Ahem. "year" + "anniversary" == tautology...
I'm sure you're right, however... http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&tab=gw#&q=%2210+Year+Anniversary" -> about 7,600,000 hits ;-)
http://www.google.com/search?q=%2210th+anniversary%22
About 17300000 hits. You lose ;-)
Am 19.02.2010 17:09, schrieb Klaus Schmidinger:
It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally named "OSM" - On Screen Menu) was released.
I want to use the occasion to thank everybody who has contributed to VDR, but also those who simply use VDR in their every day life. I for one couldn't imagine watching tv without VDR any more. Special thanks go to the people running the VDR-Portal (www.vdr-portal.de).
Originally I intended to release version 2.0 of VDR at the 10th anniversary, but as ever so often, I ran out of time. But I'm still on it - stability comes before deadlines ;-)
I hope you don't think I'm blowing my own horn here, I just didn't want the date to pass by without a remark...
Happy anniversary VDR !
And thanks a lot to Klaus, who is responsible for my favourite hobby !
Congratulations Klaus, VDR is awesome and solid as a rock, you are a genius. Thank you and all other contributors.
Albert.
Am 19.02.2010 17:09, schrieb Klaus Schmidinger:
It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally named "OSM" - On Screen Menu) was released.
What an anniversary! 10 Years, and still alive!
In case you're celebrating it this evening: Cheers from here!
For me I'm still a bit away from celebrating: The oldest download in my archive is the source code of vdr-1.2.1 on 2003-07-19, 6 1/2 years ago.
From there, in less than a year, I was doing contributions too. Since
then I didn't ever look back to my analogue SAT receiver or my VHS tape recorder a single time.
But VDR did change more than my TV habits: Within the VDR community I've met lots of incredible people, especially on RL meetings like VDR Camp (see you 2010-06-11 til -13 in Kandel). VDR has a really great community, and I really enjoy being a part of it.
May the next 10 years be as good as the last 10 were!
Cheers,
Udo
I set a reminder on my phone to post about it and as obvious Klaus remembered the born of his "baby".
What to say, i discovered the program in 2005 and after some test with an old SS2 i passed to SS1 in 2006 for use VDR in my room.
From that period i noticed VDR, some plugins, manual and addons were not
available in italian so i started to collaborate with Klaus and you guys out there (now i maintain VDR and near 130 plugin in italian).
Anyway, celebration here is for Klaus so i wrote a post on my blog about the anniversary.
Here the link (feel free to comment if you want):
http://gringo.netsons.org/blog/2010/02/19/10%c2%b0-vdr-anniversary/
Like we say in italian: "Cento di questi giorni" (A half of these days)!!!
Cheers, Diego Pierotto
On 19 February 2010 18:09, Klaus Schmidinger Klaus.Schmidinger@tvdr.dewrote:
It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally named "OSM" - On Screen Menu) was released.
I want to use the occasion to thank everybody who has contributed to VDR, but also those who simply use VDR in their every day life. I for one couldn't imagine watching tv without VDR any more. Special thanks go to the people running the VDR-Portal (www.vdr-portal.de).
Originally I intended to release version 2.0 of VDR at the 10th anniversary, but as ever so often, I ran out of time. But I'm still on it - stability comes before deadlines ;-)
I hope you don't think I'm blowing my own horn here, I just didn't want the date to pass by without a remark...
Klaus
Congratulations on your contributions to the open source community. VDR has been part of our home for at least 3 years now. Me and my wife cannot imagine tv without VDR.
Congratulatiosn Klaus and all the other developers.
I'm using VDR since mid 2001 and never found a better way to watch TV.
Falk
Am Freitag, den 19.02.2010, 17:09 +0100 schrieb Klaus Schmidinger:
It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally named "OSM" - On Screen Menu) was released.
I want to use the occasion to thank everybody who has contributed to VDR, but also those who simply use VDR in their every day life. I for one couldn't imagine watching tv without VDR any more. Special thanks go to the people running the VDR-Portal (www.vdr-portal.de).
Originally I intended to release version 2.0 of VDR at the 10th anniversary, but as ever so often, I ran out of time. But I'm still on it - stability comes before deadlines ;-)
I hope you don't think I'm blowing my own horn here, I just didn't want the date to pass by without a remark...
Klaus
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El 19/02/10 17:09, Klaus Schmidinger escribió:
It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally named "OSM" - On Screen Menu) was released.
Congratulations to you and the community of contributors, both are doing an excellent job.
Luis
Hi,
Am 19.02.2010 17:09, schrieb Klaus Schmidinger:
It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally named "OSM" - On Screen Menu) was released.
I want to use the occasion to thank everybody who has contributed to VDR, but also those who simply use VDR in their every day life. I for one couldn't imagine watching tv without VDR any more. Special thanks go to the people running the VDR-Portal (www.vdr-portal.de).
Originally I intended to release version 2.0 of VDR at the 10th anniversary, but as ever so often, I ran out of time. But I'm still on it - stability comes before deadlines ;-)
I hope you don't think I'm blowing my own horn here, I just didn't want the date to pass by without a remark...
Congratulations and thanks a lot for your hard work! And also a big thanks to the community that is developing all the cool plugins and tools.
Regards, Artem
On 02/19/2010 06:09 PM, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally named "OSM" - On Screen Menu) was released.
I want to use the occasion to thank everybody who has contributed to VDR, but also those who simply use VDR in their every day life. I for one couldn't imagine watching tv without VDR any more. Special thanks go to the people running the VDR-Portal (www.vdr-portal.de).
Originally I intended to release version 2.0 of VDR at the 10th anniversary, but as ever so often, I ran out of time. But I'm still on it - stability comes before deadlines ;-)
I hope you don't think I'm blowing my own horn here, I just didn't want the date to pass by without a remark...
Klaus
It was a kind of a revelation to come upon VDR years ago, when I first met this great piece of software. It revealed that the change from analog to digital TV was not just for the worse, but in many ways for the better as well. So thank you Klaus for your great work (not forgetting others contributing) for letting as enjoy the best digital TV software there is. And bringing about a hobby that has consumed more hours than I care to count... And I don't mean the time spent watching TV :)
-Petri
Happy Birthday VDR!
Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally named "OSM" - On Screen Menu) was released.
I want to use the occasion to thank everybody who has contributed to VDR, but also those who simply use VDR in their every day life. I for one couldn't imagine watching tv without VDR any more. Special thanks go to the people running the VDR-Portal (www.vdr-portal.de).
Thank you, Klaus, for this great software!
I just checked my archives and found that VDR replaced my analogue SAT receiver around July 2002. From the beginning it was the most useful linux application I ever tried. And it is still the only one which made it into the living room.
CU Oliver
Dear Oliver,
Am Montag, den 22.02.2010, 23:40 +0100 schrieb Oliver Endriss:
[…]
I just checked my archives and found that VDR replaced my analogue SAT receiver around July 2002. From the beginning it was the most useful linux application I ever tried. And it is still the only one which made it into the living room.
Just out of curiosity, what other applications do you use in your living room? And do you have different system or just one on which virtual machines are running?
Thanks,
Paul
PS: Happy Birthday to VDR and thank you, Klaus and the great community, for this piece of software.
Paul Menzel wrote:
I just checked my archives and found that VDR replaced my analogue SAT receiver around July 2002. From the beginning it was the most useful linux application I ever tried. And it is still the only one which made it into the living room.
Just out of curiosity, what other applications do you use in your living room? And do you have different system or just one on which virtual machines are running?
The VDR machine is the only PC-like hardware in the living-room. It is based on old PIII 800 MHz hardware, and it runs rock-stable. :-)
It will not be replaced before the HDTV VDR is mature. The biggest problem is that my eyes do not like the picture quality of current LCDs.
Of course, there is more PC hardware outside of the living-room (server, workstations).
CU Oliver
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Oliver Endriss o.endriss@gmx.de wrote:
It will not be replaced before the HDTV VDR is mature. The biggest problem is that my eyes do not like the picture quality of current LCDs.
Just curious what you think VDR lacks or is unstable in regarding hdtv? The only current problems I'm aware of are:
- Xine will freeze when you are rewinding a VDR recording and then press play or right-arrow for example, but this is a bug in xine, not VDR.
- VDR reporting incorrect runtime in h264 recordings. Klaus has worked on this and it's _much_ better now. If the runtime is incorrect, it's usually only off by up to +10 minutes or so, not several hours as it used to be.
- Some people have problems playing VDR recordings in other players outside of VDR but again, not really a bug in VDR since VDR recordings are intended to be played within VDR.
Maybe there are other issues but I don't know about them. The one that actually is an issue with VDR (incorrect runtimes), isn't even significant.
Cheers
On 24 February 2010 11:06, VDR User user.vdr@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Oliver Endriss o.endriss@gmx.de wrote:
It will not be replaced before the HDTV VDR is mature. The biggest problem is that my eyes do not like the picture quality of current LCDs.
Just curious what you think VDR lacks or is unstable in regarding hdtv? The only current problems I'm aware of are:
When using xineliboutput with vdpau, on channel change there's a pause in the playback after a second. This is very annoying when channelsurfing.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Torgeir Veimo torgeir@netenviron.com wrote:
On 24 February 2010 11:06, VDR User user.vdr@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Oliver Endriss o.endriss@gmx.de wrote:
It will not be replaced before the HDTV VDR is mature. The biggest problem is that my eyes do not like the picture quality of current LCDs.
Just curious what you think VDR lacks or is unstable in regarding hdtv? The only current problems I'm aware of are:
When using xineliboutput with vdpau, on channel change there's a pause in the playback after a second. This is very annoying when channelsurfing.
Are you sure that's not a xineliboutput problem and not VDR?
On 24 February 2010 14:30, VDR User user.vdr@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Torgeir Veimo torgeir@netenviron.com wrote:
On 24 February 2010 11:06, VDR User user.vdr@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Oliver Endriss o.endriss@gmx.de wrote:
It will not be replaced before the HDTV VDR is mature. The biggest problem is that my eyes do not like the picture quality of current LCDs.
Just curious what you think VDR lacks or is unstable in regarding hdtv? The only current problems I'm aware of are:
When using xineliboutput with vdpau, on channel change there's a pause in the playback after a second. This is very annoying when channelsurfing.
Are you sure that's not a xineliboutput problem and not VDR?
True it's a problem with xineliboutput, but VDR is useless for HD without any HD output device, and xineliboutput is by far the most used one. Talking about VDR HD completeness without considering it is wrong IMHO.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Torgeir Veimo torgeir@netenviron.com wrote:
True it's a problem with xineliboutput, but VDR is useless for HD without any HD output device, and xineliboutput is by far the most used one. Talking about VDR HD completeness without considering it is wrong IMHO.
I'm not convinced xineliboutput is the most used output by far, or even at all. Of the VDR users I talk to, vdr-xine is the easy majority. But regardless what's used, I don't think it's fair to say VDR isn't fully ready for HD when it's the output devices that are the problem. I've only used vdr-xine myself and can say it works great in my experience.
Btw, there will always be a slight delay (which is hardware related) when tuning. However, it shouldn't be more then 1-2 seconds. I hear the mythtv guys are disgusted with their channel changing delays. ;)
On 24 February 2010 15:37, VDR User user.vdr@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Torgeir Veimo torgeir@netenviron.com wrote:
True it's a problem with xineliboutput, but VDR is useless for HD without any HD output device, and xineliboutput is by far the most used one. Talking about VDR HD completeness without considering it is wrong IMHO.
I'm not convinced xineliboutput is the most used output by far, or even at all. Of the VDR users I talk to, vdr-xine is the easy majority. But regardless what's used, I don't think it's fair to say VDR isn't fully ready for HD when it's the output devices that are the problem. I've only used vdr-xine myself and can say it works great in my experience.
Ok, I don't claim to know usage figures. I still think output devices needs to be taken into account when discussing VDR in a HD context. Without output devices, VDR is much less usable.
Btw, there will always be a slight delay (which is hardware related) when tuning. However, it shouldn't be more then 1-2 seconds.
Channel change is fast, but it is as if xine after half a second after normal playback decides that it wants a larger buffer of frames, thus freezing playback for half a second, before recovering.
I am not sure if it's due to underbuffering or audio sync.
Hi, the xineliboutput guys are doing a great job with the plugin and I am almost hapy with it.
I think the better approach was the softdevice plugin which was more easy to install and depends only on libavcodec. The xinelib is a big library and many plugins and other output devices etc are not needed for vdr output's.
Unfortunately softdevice development seems dead so i switched some months ago to xineliboutput.
The problems: - audio dropouts on radiochannels - audiodropouts when changing audio track in vdr - the remote frontend has to be started after vdr and refuses to start when vdr can't be found - sometimes segfaults of sxfe when switching between hd/sd channels - some dropouts after zapping (already mentioned in this thread). ... I know that Petri is working hard to resolve problems in xineliboutput so maybe we need more time to get a stable version of the plugin.
Last weekend i've also tried vdr-xine. Compilation was ok but I wasn't able to run vdr -P xine I don't see any error message vdr starts and exit's. so I can't tell something about it so far.
BTW.: is there no need for softdevice? BR. Halim
Hi,
Halim Sahin wrote:
Unfortunately softdevice development seems dead so i switched some months ago to xineliboutput.
at first I would like to say thank you a lot to all VDR developer especially to Klaus! VDR is a tool I cannot live without it.
I upgraded my xineliboutput this weekend to the current CVS version and there most of my problems are solved. I can now move cutting marks, jumping around in a recording and resume works reliable. Maybe you should try the CVS version it maybe fixes your problems, too.
Bye, Matthias
Hi, I am using the cvs version already. You are right, the cuttingmark problem has been fixed. But sometimes i see the broken behaviour when using the pc keyboard for cutting and mooving marks quickly. The other mentioned things are problems of the current cvs.
BR. Halim
On 24 February 2010 09:47, Halim Sahin halim.sahin@t-online.de wrote:
Hi, I am using the cvs version already. You are right, the cuttingmark problem has been fixed. But sometimes i see the broken behaviour when using the pc keyboard for cutting and mooving marks quickly. The other mentioned things are problems of the current cvs.
BR. Halim
I too am running Sunday's snapshot of xineliboutput and some of the problems did disappear, but not all of it and even new ones cropped up. I'm just glad that the author is indeed looking at it. That is always a good sign :)
And to get on the xine vs xineliboutput bandwagon. xine does not provide a media player menu where I can play external files like mp3/avi/wmv/mkv/blu-ray/dvd/cd (from within VDR) using the IR remote and without having to touch ssh/remote/keyboard etc. Well That was about 2 years ago, so if xine added then perhaps I might revisit it, if it doesn't then it doesn't suite my needs. However I have seen where the media player option within VDR is not needed if you running something like XBMC as another front-end. I might be looking into enna http://enna.geexbox.org/ soon, which is similar concept as XBMC and uses xine-lib (neither vdr-xine or vdr-xineliboutput). Will see where that leads :)
VDR isn't useless without an output device, it can still act as a server to set timers for recordings. I am impressed with vdr-streamdev-server and vdr-streamdev-client as a client/server solution it is as if I almost had 2 independent STBs, one for each room. The only annoying "bug" that I found was, that if I ran femon on the client, it would stop the server's current replay of a recording. I guess that is the fault of vdr-femon?
my 2c
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Theunis Potgieter wrote:
However I have seen where the media player option within VDR is not needed if you running something like XBMC as another front-end. I might be looking into enna http://enna.geexbox.org/ soon, which is similar concept as XBMC and uses xine-lib (neither vdr-xine or vdr-xineliboutput). Will see where that leads :)
Hi, this has been my favorite solution for a long time. Makes playing any media a true joy, but still stays very simple as opposed to various "media centers" that depend on SQL and whatnot.
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/VDR#Integrating_Oxine_into_VDR
On 25.02.2010 16:27, Adrian C. wrote:
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Theunis Potgieter wrote:
However I have seen where the media player option within VDR is not needed if you running something like XBMC as another front-end. I might be looking into enna http://enna.geexbox.org/ soon, which is similar concept as XBMC and uses xine-lib (neither vdr-xine or vdr-xineliboutput). Will see where that leads :)
Enna uses vdr-xine (through Geexbox' libplayer when compiled with xine support) and libsvdrp (also a geexbox library specially written for interacting with VDR). For those happening to use Gentoo, installing everything is now a snap, I uploaded Enna-related ebuilds, see http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-816990.html
Cheers, Lucian
On 25 February 2010 18:44, Lucian Muresan lucianm@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
On 25.02.2010 16:27, Adrian C. wrote:
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Theunis Potgieter wrote:
However I have seen where the media player option within VDR is not needed if you running something like XBMC as another front-end. I might be looking into enna http://enna.geexbox.org/ soon, which is similar concept as XBMC and uses xine-lib (neither vdr-xine or vdr-xineliboutput). Will see where that leads :)
Enna uses vdr-xine (through Geexbox' libplayer when compiled with xine support) and libsvdrp (also a geexbox library specially written for interacting with VDR). For those happening to use Gentoo, installing everything is now a snap, I uploaded Enna-related ebuilds, see http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-816990.html
Cheers, Lucian
Great, so it appears I might be switching over to vdr-xine afterall.
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On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:50:06 +0200, Theunis Potgieter wrote
The only annoying "bug" that I found was, that if I ran femon on the client, it would stop the server's current replay of a recording. I guess that is the fault of vdr-femon?
Currently femon provides signal information for VDRs "ActualDevice" only, i.e. the device which receives the DVB stream for output on the local primary device. So if a client wants to get signal information for its current channel, it has to tune the same channel on the server. And tuning a channel via SVDRP stops replaying recordings.
Regards, Frank
On 28 February 2010 16:59, Frank Schmirler vdr@schmirler.de wrote:
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:50:06 +0200, Theunis Potgieter wrote
The only annoying "bug" that I found was, that if I ran femon on the client, it would stop the server's current replay of a recording. I guess that is the fault of vdr-femon?
Currently femon provides signal information for VDRs "ActualDevice" only, i.e. the device which receives the DVB stream for output on the local primary device. So if a client wants to get signal information for its current channel, it has to tune the same channel on the server. And tuning a channel via SVDRP stops replaying recordings.
So not vdr-femon to blame then. My apologies.
Regards, Frank
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On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, Theunis Potgieter wrote:
On 28 February 2010 16:59, Frank Schmirler vdr@schmirler.de wrote:
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:50:06 +0200, Theunis Potgieter wrote
The only annoying "bug" that I found was, that if I ran femon on the client, it would stop the server's current replay of a recording. I guess that is the fault of vdr-femon?
Currently femon provides signal information for VDRs "ActualDevice" only, i.e. the device which receives the DVB stream for output on the local primary device. So if a client wants to get signal information for its current channel, it has to tune the same channel on the server. And tuning a channel via SVDRP stops replaying recordings.
So not vdr-femon to blame then. My apologies.
Well, vdr-femon could disable zapping while a server is replaying. Patches are always welcome. :)
BR, -- rofa
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:04:31 +0200 (EET), Rolf Ahrenberg wrote
Well, vdr-femon could disable zapping while a server is replaying. Patches are always welcome. :)
The problem would not only show up while replaying. If someone is watching live TV on the server's primary device and it's not the same channel the client is receiving, the client will switch channels.
The current implementation assumes a headless server running the dummydevice-plugin as primary device. To get rid of the channel switch, the client could pass the requested channel's ID in its "plug femon info" calls. The server femon would then lookup which device receives the corresponding transponder and return this device's signal information. What do you think?
Cheers, Frank
On 24.02.2010 02:06, VDR User wrote:
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- VDR reporting incorrect runtime in h264 recordings. Klaus has
worked on this and it's _much_ better now. If the runtime is incorrect, it's usually only off by up to +10 minutes or so, not several hours as it used to be.
Do you have a recording created with VDR 1.7.12 where it reports the wrong runtime? Can you provide a few minutes of such a recording?
Klaus
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Klaus Schmidinger Klaus.Schmidinger@tvdr.de wrote:
On 24.02.2010 02:06, VDR User wrote:
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- VDR reporting incorrect runtime in h264 recordings. Klaus has
worked on this and it's _much_ better now. If the runtime is incorrect, it's usually only off by up to +10 minutes or so, not several hours as it used to be.
Do you have a recording created with VDR 1.7.12 where it reports the wrong runtime? Can you provide a few minutes of such a recording?
Yup, will prepare a sample.
En/na Oliver Endriss ha escrit:
It will not be replaced before the HDTV VDR is mature. The biggest problem is that my eyes do not like the picture quality of current LCDs.
Try to look at plasma then, or, if you're really patient, wait for oled.
Bye
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:25 AM, Luca Olivetti luca@ventoso.org wrote:
It will not be replaced before the HDTV VDR is mature. The biggest problem is that my eyes do not like the picture quality of current LCDs.
Try to look at plasma then, or, if you're really patient, wait for oled.
One of my tv's is a plasma and the picture is amazing. LCD's have never been that good, and never will be. OLED is truely awesome but don't expect to get that for a reasonable price until they have milked all the money possible from older technologies. Same thing that happens as always, most recent example is Bluray.
Oliver Endriss schrieb:
I just checked my archives and found that VDR replaced my analogue SAT receiver around July 2002. From the beginning it was the most useful linux application I ever tried. And it is still the only one which made it into the living room.
That's not true for me at all. My LCD TV is running Linux and has sshd, ftpd, nfs, etc. ;) Of course VDR is running for a much longer time in the living room.
Am Dienstag, den 23.02.2010, 07:19 +0100 schrieb Stefan Hußfeldt:
Oliver Endriss schrieb:
I just checked my archives and found that VDR replaced my analogue SAT receiver around July 2002. From the beginning it was the most useful linux application I ever tried. And it is still the only one which made it into the living room.
That's not true for me at all. My LCD TV is running Linux and has sshd, ftpd, nfs, etc. ;)
Sounds great! What model is that?
Of course VDR is running for a much longer time in the living room.
Does your LCD TV act directly as a VDR client too?
Thanks,
Paul
Paul Menzel schrieb:
Am Dienstag, den 23.02.2010, 07:19 +0100 schrieb Stefan Hußfeldt:
Oliver Endriss schrieb:
I just checked my archives and found that VDR replaced my analogue SAT receiver around July 2002. From the beginning it was the most useful linux application I ever tried. And it is still the only one which made it into the living room.
That's not true for me at all. My LCD TV is running Linux and has sshd, ftpd, nfs, etc. ;)
Sounds great! What model is that?
Hey, sounds very interesting to me, too.
Are there any features available beside doing a shutdown?
TIA, Michael
En/na Paul Menzel ha escrit:
Am Dienstag, den 23.02.2010, 07:19 +0100 schrieb Stefan Hußfeldt:
Oliver Endriss schrieb:
I just checked my archives and found that VDR replaced my analogue SAT receiver around July 2002. From the beginning it was the most useful linux application I ever tried. And it is still the only one which made it into the living room.
That's not true for me at all. My LCD TV is running Linux and has sshd, ftpd, nfs, etc. ;)
Sounds great! What model is that?
Most (all?) modern tv sets from samsung, lg, panasonic, sharp (and probably philips) are running some form of Linux, but that's usually only the base operating system, the application controlling the tv and that's doing mostly everything is closed. You can still do some interesting things just hacking the Linux base (e.g, if the tv can reproduce media from usb, you can fake an usb stick with an nfs mounted directory to media from the network), provided the manufacturer is "friendly" enough to the GPL and provides everything it is required to provide (I'm struggling with LG to get the sources corresponding to what's actually running on my TV, so if that's an important decision factor I'd avoid LG). Samsung seems to be the most "hacker friendly" set, see http://samygo.sourceforge.net
Bye
On 23.02.2010 10:34, Luca Olivetti wrote:
Most (all?) modern tv sets from samsung, lg, panasonic, sharp (and probably philips) are running some form of Linux, but that's usually only the base operating system, the application controlling the tv and that's doing mostly everything is closed. You can still do some interesting things just hacking the Linux base (e.g, if the tv can reproduce media from usb, you can fake an usb stick with an nfs mounted directory to media from the network), provided the manufacturer is "friendly" enough to the GPL and provides everything it
is required to provide (I'm struggling with LG to get the sources corresponding to what's actually running on my TV, so if that's an important decision factor I'd avoid LG).
Any reaction at all, from LG?
Lucian
Although this thread seems to have become about tv firmware hacking, I also have dedicated VDR boxes for both my upstairs and downstairs living rooms. Upstairs is only connected via HDMI cable while the pc is located in my office. Downstairs is running on a Nvidia ION system, again connected with HDMI. Both are controlled with ssh from my main desktop and latop. Neither have a keyboard/mouse/monitor plugged in since their only function is to run VDR -- a remote control is enough.
En/na Lucian Muresan ha escrit:
is required to provide (I'm struggling with LG to get the sources corresponding to what's actually running on my TV, so if that's an important decision factor I'd avoid LG).
Any reaction at all, from LG?
At first they were quick to answer and to provide the sources, but when I found out that I couldn't regenerate the same kernel that's running on the tv, that they didn't provide any "official" means to upload the hacked firmware (unofficially I know how to to it, but that's not the point) and that they don't provide the binary object of the main program (it's statically linked to uClibc, so to be compliant with the LGPL they have to provide that object) they stopped replying to my messages (that were also CCed to the gpl violations mailing list). I've been waiting for more than a month for the reply that still hasn't come.
Bye
Paul Menzel schrieb:
That's not true for me at all. My LCD TV is running Linux and has sshd, ftpd, nfs, etc. ;)
Sounds great! What model is that?
Luca has already given the correct link: http://samygo.sourceforge.net/ I'm running a LExxB750.
Of course VDR is running for a much longer time in the living room.
Does your LCD TV act directly as a VDR client too?
Unfortunately not. And for the moment i've connect the VDR only via Scart (FF) with the LCD...
Congratulations VDR, Klaus and every person who contributed to VDR in any way possible!
I can honestly say that about 2 years ago I didn't use VDR, because I thought it required a Full DVB card. But since I wanted to watch HDTV, I decided to gamble and buy a HTPC instead. So that I could be more flexible, it was cheaper then a dedicated HDTV receiver (which in total costed me more then I anticipated, but hobby costs money anyway) and it was more future proof. In the beginning I started using some awkward Windows applications (MCE, Media portal, DVB Viewer Pro) and Myth TV, but it wasn't quite what I wanted and I was planning to sell my HTPC. Then I discovered that I could use VDR in combination with a softdevice-plugin, I've never gone back to other options. Ok, I still test some new hard- and software but still I keep coming back to VDR. And yes, that's a major compliment :).
Regards,
Niels Wagenaar
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Klaus Schmidinger Klaus.Schmidinger@tvdr.de wrote:
It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally named "OSM" - On Screen Menu) was released.
I want to use the occasion to thank everybody who has contributed to VDR, but also those who simply use VDR in their every day life. I for one couldn't imagine watching tv without VDR any more. Special thanks go to the people running the VDR-Portal (www.vdr-portal.de).
Originally I intended to release version 2.0 of VDR at the 10th anniversary, but as ever so often, I ran out of time. But I'm still on it - stability comes before deadlines ;-)
I hope you don't think I'm blowing my own horn here, I just didn't want the date to pass by without a remark...
Klaus
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Congratulations Klaus, and also to the rest of contributors. Many returns of such decade anniversaries! I'm also using it for almost 6 years, quite catching hobby!
On 19.02.2010 17:09, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally named "OSM" - On Screen Menu) was released.
I want to use the occasion to thank everybody who has contributed to VDR, but also those who simply use VDR in their every day life. I for one couldn't imagine watching tv without VDR any more. Special thanks go to the people running the VDR-Portal (www.vdr-portal.de).
Originally I intended to release version 2.0 of VDR at the 10th anniversary, but as ever so often, I ran out of time. But I'm still on it - stability comes before deadlines ;-)
Oh, and the following version ends in 13 ;-)
Best regards, Lucian
Happy Birthday, VDR :)
VDR is the only software in my house which runs 24/24 about 5 years ago.
Thanks, and keep up the good work!
Füley István
Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally named "OSM" - On Screen Menu) was released.
I want to use the occasion to thank everybody who has contributed to VDR, but also those who simply use VDR in their every day life. I for one couldn't imagine watching tv without VDR any more. Special thanks go to the people running the VDR-Portal (www.vdr-portal.de).
Originally I intended to release version 2.0 of VDR at the 10th anniversary, but as ever so often, I ran out of time. But I'm still on it - stability comes before deadlines ;-)
I hope you don't think I'm blowing my own horn here, I just didn't want the date to pass by without a remark...
Klaus
vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Happy Birthday, VDR!
running it 24/7 on a diskless nfsroot system for 7 years now.
apart from a defect motherboard, no downtime.
unbeatable WAF.
sometimes even I forget that its a PC, it's linux, its VDR, its OSS
"it just works"
I couldn't imagine watching TV on something other than VDR. I regularly get angry when spending the night in a hotel, watching TV, pressing "OK" and no EPG shows up ;-)
Thanks you Klaus, and thanks to all contributors!
Klaus Schmidinger ha scritto:
It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally named "OSM" - On Screen Menu) was released.
Klaus
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thanks, klaus, many thanks, but not only for your great software, that i've discovered only 9 mounth ago! thanks for the time you spent on it! thanks for let me know a new world, and a great comunity! thanks for pushing me to study c++, if i will to make some plugin i must study before! thanks to everyone who contribute to develope the plugin, the patch, and the translation too!
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