Hello,
I downloaded the patch for both vdr and the ttxtsubs plugin from Rolf's page, but the subtitles aren't showing. With a quick look (and I remark "quick" so I may be wrong) it seems that the patches now don't change anymore the osd but use the new osd level in vdr-1.5.9. I'd like to know if the new patch is supposed to be working, or the cause the subtitles aren't showing is my hurriedly patched dxr3 and xine plugins. If the latter, do you have any hint on how to correctly implement osd level in said plugins?
Bye
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, Luca Olivetti wrote:
Yes. I've set subtitles to use level 10 and ttxtsubs to 20.
DVB subtitles are working nicely in my FF setup and someone reported that ttxtsubs are working with xineliboutput.
Altought the patches are working in two different setups, they still are propably quite buggy as I didn't want to break up the backwards compatibility. :)
BR, -- rofa
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Luca Olivetti wrote:
You're right, I've re-checked without my patch and it works (though with the osd level the "IsOpen" check is not really necessary).
Well, you're right too and it was a bummer in my patch - somehow forgot to check those IsOpen calls when re-patching the ttxtsubs. I also integrated your mRealDoDisplay fix.
BR, -- rofa
En/na Rolf Ahrenberg ha escrit:
Considering that
1) The last released version of the plugin is 3 and a half years old 2) Neither me nor google haven't seen the author here or anywhere else since 3 and a half years ago 3) The (compressed) patch size is about half the (compressed) plugin source 4) You've been almost the only one that took care of the plugin (ok, I did some very minor things, and probably there have been other contributors, but you did the rest)
why don't you take maintainership of the plugin, release a full tarball, and be done with it? Bonus points if you release a "stable" (or if you prefer "dead" ;-) version for "stable" vdr and a bleeding edge version (without the #if APIVERSION madness!) for the development version ;-)
If Ragnar is alive and listening, please speak up.
Bye
Luca Olivetti wrote:
I agree with you Luca. I had an email conversation (in Swedish) with Ragnar a year ago and he said he doesn't use VDR anymore, so it's not likely we'll to hear anything from him here again. I don't know what the situation is in Germany, but if Claus will eventually integrate Teletext+subs in the VDR core that's the best solution for us in Sweden. /Magnus H
On Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Luca Olivetti wrote:
why don't you take maintainership of the plugin, release a full tarball, and be done with it?
Because I don't want it. The plugin needs a complete rewrite and there's no point to do it before Klaus has integrated necessary parts into VDR's core (OSD handling, subtitles menu/key, ..) that's hopefully next sunday :) I don't even had any ttxtsubs channels available for years and been just maintaining the plugin for my friends by doing as little as it requires... and besides, I've been getting those damn bug reports already, but been able to reject them by saying I'm not the maintainer!
I'd like to see the ttxtsubs (and closed captions) integrated into core VDR before the next stable release as they are IMO essential features that should work out-of-box.
-- rofa
On 09/03/07 23:57, Luca Olivetti wrote:
Well, I`m not sure about that - but it won't be too long ;-)
DVB subtitles will be fully integrated in the next developer version, thanks to Marco Schlüßler who povided the main parts of the DVB subtitle handling. There are just a few remaining issues that need to be solved before I'll release it.
Once DVB subtitles are fully working. ttxt subtitles will be next. I haven't looked into the code of the ttxt subtitle plugin, yet, but currently my idea is to convert the ttxt subtitles into DVB subtitles, so that VDR only needs to handle one type of subtitiles for recording and live viewing.
Klaus
On 09/04/07 23:45, Luca Olivetti wrote:
Well, in the end they would have to be displayed as bitmaps, anyway. Besides, the DVB subtitle specs also provide a means of having character strings instead of bitmaps. I'm not sure yet how it's going to be, but I'm certainly not going to have two (or three, with "Closed Captioning") different subtitling methods throughout VDR. There's _one_ mechanism, based on "ETS 300 743", and anything else will be converted to this as early as possible.
Klaus
On 9/4/07, Klaus Schmidinger Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de wrote:
Does this include NA closed-captioning/line21 support as well or are Euros the only ones who get this treat? :)
Cheers
On 09/05/07 01:00, VDR User wrote:
Not directly, since AFAICS "Closed Captioning" has nothing in common with DVB subtitles.
But maybe the CC texts can be easily converted to DVB subtitles, just like it's going to be with teletext subtitles. In that case I don't see why CC shouldn't be supported.
Klaus
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
Does your implementation provide compatibility for external demuxers like ProjectX and recordings made with current subtitles plugin? Marco's patch does the remuxing a bit differently as the subtitles plugin.
I'd also like see some features currently found in the subtitles plugin in VDR's implementation: vertical offset and transparency adjustments.
BR, -- rofa
On 09/05/07 07:35, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote:
It stores the DVB subtitles into PES packets with ids ranging from 0x20...0x3F, if that's what you mean.
We'll have to see about that. If it doesn't work immediately (which would mean that the subtitle plugin did it wrong ;-) I'm sure there can be some compatibility code or a tool that converts existing recordings.
I'd also like see some features currently found in the subtitles plugin in VDR's implementation: vertical offset and transparency adjustments.
Let's see about that once the basic functionality works.
Klaus
Does your implementation provide compatibility for external demuxers
fyi, some successfully use the dvbtextsubs aka dvbsubs tool to extract ttxtsubs:
cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@dvbtools.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/dvbtools login
cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@dvbtools.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/dvbtools co -P dvbsubs
mfg, best,
sean