hello klaus
there is open-source software for a tuner called hdhomerun if you had this info could native support be added to vdr... this is a network device and it has support in other pvr dvr setups.. just asking as i know there is a europe model of this device... or going to be if not already there... plus there ive read theres interest in it from your side as well as my side here in the us....
here is the site if you would like to look at it and the link to there software info... i do have it and it does work in command line now...
http://www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun_home_atsc
http://www.silicondust.com/downloads/linux
let us know what you think.... i do know your time is short as you have other things on your desk...
abbe
Le mercredi 20 janvier 2010 à 19:36 -0500, abbe normal a écrit :
hello klaus
there is open-source software for a tuner called hdhomerun if you had this info could native support be added to vdr... this is a network device and it has support in other pvr dvr setups.. just asking as i know there is a europe model of this device... or going to be if not already there... plus there ive read theres interest in it from your side as well as my side here in the us....
here is the site if you would like to look at it and the link to there software info... i do have it and it does work in command line now...
http://www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun_home_atsc
http://www.silicondust.com/downloads/linux
let us know what you think.... i do know your time is short as you have other things on your desk...
For those who don't spare some time digging on the website: * this is an Ethernet device: antenna in (single, dual), ethernet out * no storage inside the box * they provide an LGPL library "libhdhomerun": include hdhomerun.h and/or hdhomerun_device.h to use the top level API
From the README:
Top level include file: hdhomerun.h Top level API: hdhomerun_device. See hdhomerun_device.h for documentation. The hdhomerun_device API should be used rather than the low level control and video APIs required with previous versions. Additional libraries required: - pthread - iphlpapi (windows only)
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Nicolas Huillard wrote:
For those who don't spare some time digging on the website:
- this is an Ethernet device: antenna in (single, dual), ethernet out
- no storage inside the box
- they provide an LGPL library "libhdhomerun": include hdhomerun.h
and/or hdhomerun_device.h to use the top level API
I'd make another 'pseudo' DVB input device plugin for this based on the current IPTV plugin. A quick look at the API reveals that you could dynamically add necessary number of provided tuners as done in IPTV plugin. You could also implement a channel scan functionality as done in IPTV plugin. I quess its' UDP/RTP transport is already compatible with the one implemented in IPTV plugin. The only requirement from core VDR would be the pluginparam patch (or similar) functionality.
BR, -- rofa
On 21/01/10 04:20, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Nicolas Huillard wrote:
For those who don't spare some time digging on the website:
- this is an Ethernet device: antenna in (single, dual), ethernet out
- no storage inside the box
- they provide an LGPL library "libhdhomerun": include hdhomerun.h
and/or hdhomerun_device.h to use the top level API
I'd make another 'pseudo' DVB input device plugin for this based on the current IPTV plugin. A quick look at the API reveals that you could dynamically add necessary number of provided tuners as done in IPTV plugin. You could also implement a channel scan functionality as done in IPTV plugin. I quess its' UDP/RTP transport is already compatible with the one implemented in IPTV plugin. The only requirement from core VDR would be the pluginparam patch (or similar) functionality.
My thoughts exactly. I am pretty sure this would work as is with vdr-iptv. I had a quick look at some of the US versions and it looks interesting. I got vdr-iptv working with an external cable box and a pvr card, so using a script we could send off whatever card was necessary to change channels and bring in the input. The downside would probably be a long channel change time.
More native support could be good.. However, I wonder what the advantage would be to having this over an internal pci dvb card or even a usb one? The pci card is surely cheaper, and the functionality is already there in VDR?
Le jeudi 21 janvier 2010 à 09:27 -0600, Rob Davis a écrit :
More native support could be good.. However, I wonder what the advantage would be to having this over an internal pci dvb card or even a usb one? The pci card is surely cheaper, and the functionality is already there in VDR?
It may be useful in a multi-client setup, where each client have no storage nor DVB device, and the storage is a simple NFS server (tiny NAS server with USB disks). Different kind of setup than the usual server using storage and DVB devices, to which diskless/deviceless clients connect.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Nicolas Huillard nicolas@huillard.net wrote:
Le jeudi 21 janvier 2010 à 09:27 -0600, Rob Davis a écrit :
More native support could be good.. However, I wonder what the advantage would be to having this over an internal pci dvb card or even a usb one? The pci card is surely cheaper, and the functionality is already there in VDR?
It may be useful in a multi-client setup, where each client have no storage nor DVB device, and the storage is a simple NFS server (tiny NAS server with USB disks). Different kind of setup than the usual server using storage and DVB devices, to which diskless/deviceless clients connect.
Maybe some day VDR will have good solid support of server/client setups. It's one huge feature it lacks but honestly I won't hold my breath for such a feature. I don't think Klaus has any interest in this unfortunately.
hello guys
yes you are right a pci or usb device may be cheaper but in my case at 99 dollars each for usb and 108 dollars for pci didnt make since but in the thought of less pci buses on systems now was a big factor... then you have to double that cost as a single tuner will only allow one channel on that box so recording another is not possible... now being able to use this at any system in the network was the main idea...
all this aside i do have the iptv plugin running but dont have it figured out yet... but if this could be add to it and support was added in the plugin think it would be a nice add on... having a channel scanner then a script that would convert that info would be nice to make things simpler...
as far as Klaus adding this to vdr id say no when theres a plugin that it could be add to... make more since to do it as a plugin with native support for it... but as i dont even know how to write a plugin im lost at this point... this is why im asking here in hopes the guys that have or work on the plugins could help in pointing me in the right direction... i can then at least try to make it work... most of the guys who know me know i dont know a lot but i dont give up easy if it can be done... so im will to help if im told what and how too... i can at least try...
abbe
On 1/21/10, VDR User user.vdr@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Nicolas Huillard nicolas@huillard.net wrote:
Le jeudi 21 janvier 2010 à 09:27 -0600, Rob Davis a écrit :
More native support could be good.. However, I wonder what the advantage would be to having this over an internal pci dvb card or even a usb one? The pci card is surely cheaper, and the functionality is already there in VDR?
It may be useful in a multi-client setup, where each client have no storage nor DVB device, and the storage is a simple NFS server (tiny NAS server with USB disks). Different kind of setup than the usual server using storage and DVB devices, to which diskless/deviceless clients connect.
Maybe some day VDR will have good solid support of server/client setups. It's one huge feature it lacks but honestly I won't hold my breath for such a feature. I don't think Klaus has any interest in this unfortunately.
vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
On 21/01/10 15:39, abbe normal wrote:
hello guys
yes you are right a pci or usb device may be cheaper but in my case at 99 dollars each for usb and 108 dollars for pci didnt make since but in the thought of less pci buses on systems now was a big factor... then you have to double that cost as a single tuner will only allow one channel on that box so recording another is not possible... now being able to use this at any system in the network was the main idea...
all this aside i do have the iptv plugin running but dont have it figured out yet... but if this could be add to it and support was added in the plugin think it would be a nice add on... having a channel scanner then a script that would convert that info would be nice to make things simpler...
as far as Klaus adding this to vdr id say no when theres a plugin that it could be add to... make more since to do it as a plugin with native support for it... but as i dont even know how to write a plugin im lost at this point... this is why im asking here in hopes the guys that have or work on the plugins could help in pointing me in the right direction... i can then at least try to make it work... most of the guys who know me know i dont know a lot but i dont give up easy if it can be done... so im will to help if im told what and how too... i can at least try...
Can you get the channel scan done from something else and post a mplayer or vlc command for each channel. Once you've done that I'll knock you up a quick iptv script..
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Rob Davis wrote:
Can you get the channel scan done from something else and post a mplayer or vlc command for each channel. Once you've done that I'll knock you up a quick iptv script..
You really should consider write a new plugin (i.e. based on the iptv plugin) for it instead of hacking the iptv plugin. This would enable integrated channel scanner, dynamically assigned tuners, more robust zapping, ...
BR, -- rofa
abbe normal wrote:
hello klaus
there is open-source software for a tuner called hdhomerun if you had this info could native support be added to vdr... this is a network device and it has support in other pvr dvr setups.. just asking as i know there is a europe model of this device... or going to be if not already there... plus there ive read theres interest in it from your side as well as my side here in the us....
here is the site if you would like to look at it and the link to there software info... i do have it and it does work in command line now...
http://www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun_home_atsc
http://www.silicondust.com/downloads/linux
let us know what you think.... i do know your time is short as you have other things on your desk...
abbe
sound like a light version of this http://www.reel-multimedia.com/en/shop_netceiver.php
it could be useful to have a look how they have done the vdr integration http://svn.baycom.de/repos/vdr-mcli-plugin
hello guys
lars that looks like a nice setup that real media has didnt even know that was around...
rolf yes that i think maybe is the best idea but as like i said i dont even know where to start as i have never made a plugin before... i can write very simple scripts but this is going to need someone better to help...
rob yes they do have there own channel scanner built into there software and it produces a simple layout of info... i will attach a txt file of that output... so you can have a look at it...
thanks guys for all the input think this will work and be smooth working with all your help and input...
abbe
On 1/22/10, Lars Bläser lblaeser@mainz-online.de wrote:
abbe normal wrote:
hello klaus
there is open-source software for a tuner called hdhomerun if you had this info could native support be added to vdr... this is a network device and it has support in other pvr dvr setups.. just asking as i know there is a europe model of this device... or going to be if not already there... plus there ive read theres interest in it from your side as well as my side here in the us....
here is the site if you would like to look at it and the link to there software info... i do have it and it does work in command line now...
http://www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun_home_atsc
http://www.silicondust.com/downloads/linux
let us know what you think.... i do know your time is short as you have other things on your desk...
abbe
sound like a light version of this http://www.reel-multimedia.com/en/shop_netceiver.php
it could be useful to have a look how they have done the vdr integration http://svn.baycom.de/repos/vdr-mcli-plugin
vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 09:25:07AM -0500, abbe normal wrote:
hello guys
lars that looks like a nice setup that real media has didnt even know that was around...
There's a more detailed description of the system here: http://www.baycom.de/~acher/netceiver/netceiver_white_paper.pdf
abbe normal ha scritto:
rob yes they do have there own channel scanner built into there software and it produces a simple layout of info... i will attach a txt file of that output... so you can have a look at it...
thanks guys for all the input think this will work and be smooth working with all your help and input...
What do you use to stream it to mplayer or vlc? Looks like the channel scanner has done the right thing. You can check what channels you should get using the hdhomerun website..
For instance for my zip, I get this http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineup_web/US:61110#lineup_1173095
Also looks like you're using ATSC over the air intead of Cable..
Is there enough bandwidth to stream an HD mpeg2 stream on your network? I had trouble on mine when I used vdr-sxfe on a seperate box to the server. I worked, but I couldn't access the internet as all my internal bandwidth was gone..
hello rob
thanks for the info i will be trying this today so ill email back later on how it works out... as far as the bandwidth i have 100 now can move to 1000 just have to put the switch in but never noticed if there was a slow down as ive not had this up and running full time yet...
abbe
On 1/22/10, Rob Davis rob@davis-family.info wrote:
abbe normal ha scritto:
rob yes they do have there own channel scanner built into there software and it produces a simple layout of info... i will attach a txt file of that output... so you can have a look at it...
thanks guys for all the input think this will work and be smooth working with all your help and input...
What do you use to stream it to mplayer or vlc? Looks like the channel scanner has done the right thing. You can check what channels you should get using the hdhomerun website..
For instance for my zip, I get this http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineup_web/US:61110#lineup_1173095
Also looks like you're using ATSC over the air intead of Cable..
Is there enough bandwidth to stream an HD mpeg2 stream on your network? I had trouble on mine when I used vdr-sxfe on a seperate box to the server. I worked, but I couldn't access the internet as all my internal bandwidth was gone..
vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
hello guys
for some reason i can not get this device to stream to ffmpeg even just one channel... ive tried xine also and it wont stream to it ... only thing ive gotten it to stream to is vlc so im still playing just letting you all know where im at and what ive tried so far...
abbe
On 1/23/10, abbe normal 1abenormal@gmail.com wrote:
hello rob
thanks for the info i will be trying this today so ill email back later on how it works out... as far as the bandwidth i have 100 now can move to 1000 just have to put the switch in but never noticed if there was a slow down as ive not had this up and running full time yet...
abbe
On 1/22/10, Rob Davis rob@davis-family.info wrote:
abbe normal ha scritto:
rob yes they do have there own channel scanner built into there software and it produces a simple layout of info... i will attach a txt file of that output... so you can have a look at it...
thanks guys for all the input think this will work and be smooth working with all your help and input...
What do you use to stream it to mplayer or vlc? Looks like the channel scanner has done the right thing. You can check what channels you should get using the hdhomerun website..
For instance for my zip, I get this http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineup_web/US:61110#lineup_1173095
Also looks like you're using ATSC over the air intead of Cable..
Is there enough bandwidth to stream an HD mpeg2 stream on your network? I had trouble on mine when I used vdr-sxfe on a seperate box to the server. I worked, but I couldn't access the internet as all my internal bandwidth was gone..
vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
hello all
is there anyone on the list that is using streaming to xine as for some reason i cannt get xine to open a stream from a network device im working on.. heres the command line im testing... xine udp://192.168.3.85:7658/#demux:mpeg-ts --verbose=2
any thoughts on this or how to get xine to lock onto this stream...
abbe
On 1/27/10, abbe normal 1abenormal@gmail.com wrote:
hello guys
for some reason i can not get this device to stream to ffmpeg even just one channel... ive tried xine also and it wont stream to it ... only thing ive gotten it to stream to is vlc so im still playing just letting you all know where im at and what ive tried so far...
abbe
On 1/23/10, abbe normal 1abenormal@gmail.com wrote:
hello rob
thanks for the info i will be trying this today so ill email back later on how it works out... as far as the bandwidth i have 100 now can move to 1000 just have to put the switch in but never noticed if there was a slow down as ive not had this up and running full time yet...
abbe
On 1/22/10, Rob Davis rob@davis-family.info wrote:
abbe normal ha scritto:
rob yes they do have there own channel scanner built into there software and it produces a simple layout of info... i will attach a txt file of that output... so you can have a look at it...
thanks guys for all the input think this will work and be smooth working with all your help and input...
What do you use to stream it to mplayer or vlc? Looks like the channel scanner has done the right thing. You can check what channels you should get using the hdhomerun website..
For instance for my zip, I get this http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineup_web/US:61110#lineup_1173095
Also looks like you're using ATSC over the air intead of Cable..
Is there enough bandwidth to stream an HD mpeg2 stream on your network? I had trouble on mine when I used vdr-sxfe on a seperate box to the server. I worked, but I couldn't access the internet as all my internal bandwidth was gone..
vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr