Thanks for all the answers regarding my questions.
So far I can understand my hardware is not adapted to what I want to do. I will proceed to the following :
- Install 2 twin lnb's - Install 2 disecq switches. - Is diseqc switch 1 ok ? or do i need diseqc 2.0
As explain I have 1 FF card and one S2-3200. On one of my dishes I also have a rotor.
- Can I still use it ? Is there already a valid rotor plugin for 1.7.0 ?
My target is to achieve to be able to look on one TV on the output of the FF card, and on a other TV on a other broadcasting on a vdr-to-vdr client. I assume thats possible with that configuration ?
Can I record a third broadcasting ? (concurrent recording) Can I look at a third broadcasting on a second vdr-to-vdr or http client ?
Even if I don't need HD, do I need to use 1.7.0 version with my S2-3200 ?
thanks,
sp
spe@sdmonv.com wrote:
Thanks for all the answers regarding my questions.
So far I can understand my hardware is not adapted to what I want to do. I will proceed to the following :
- Install 2 twin lnb's
- Install 2 disecq switches.
- Is diseqc switch 1 ok ? or do i need diseqc 2.0
As explain I have 1 FF card and one S2-3200. On one of my dishes I also have a rotor.
- Can I still use it ? Is there already a valid rotor plugin for 1.7.0 ?
My target is to achieve to be able to look on one TV on the output of the FF card, and on a other TV on a other broadcasting on a vdr-to-vdr client. I assume thats possible with that configuration ?
Can I record a third broadcasting ? (concurrent recording) Can I look at a third broadcasting on a second vdr-to-vdr or http client ?
Even if I don't need HD, do I need to use 1.7.0 version with my S2-3200 ?
thanks,
sp
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In the end, if you dont use the LNB Sharing patch (I think it was), the solution from the VDR point of view is very simple. I hope I get this correct.
To watch or record 2 programs, on two different transponders, you need two tuners and therefore 2 input lines. Same for 3,4,5 and 6 programs etc. etc.
You just need to ensure, outside of VDR, that each line (coax) going to VDR can transport every transponder, and that at the same time.
If, two or more programs are on the same transponder, then a single tuner can see them all.
I think a FF card can "process" 3 streams on the same transponder without problems. I don't know if "process" differentiates between live-viewing and recording a program. I think the nettlebock (bottleneck) is on the PCI bus.
"Third broadcasting" will therefore depend on whether that channel is on one of the transponders you are already tuned to with your two cards.
Will the TS mods that Klaus is currently working on mean that the full stream of the transponder can be recorded? Or will the HW full-TS mod still be needed?
Cheers Brian
On 05/22/08 21:22, Brian wrote:
... Will the TS mods that Klaus is currently working on mean that the full stream of the transponder can be recorded? Or will the HW full-TS mod still be needed?
The PES to TS switch will only change the way VDR records broadcasts and performs live viewing. There will be no more TS to PES conversion. VDR will still record separate programmes, though. It won't record the entire TS.
Klaus
Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
On 05/22/08 21:22, Brian wrote:
... Will the TS mods that Klaus is currently working on mean that the full stream of the transponder can be recorded? Or will the HW full-TS mod still be needed?
The PES to TS switch will only change the way VDR records broadcasts and performs live viewing. There will be no more TS to PES conversion. VDR will still record separate programmes, though. It won't record the entire TS.
Klaus
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Klaus thanks.
I know the BBC was pissing about with recording the complete TS, but IIRC then you need a "LOT" of disk space for that.
Cheers Brian
Will the TS mods that Klaus is currently working on mean that the full stream of the transponder can be recorded? Or will the HW full-TS mod still be needed?
The PES to TS switch will only change the way VDR records broadcasts and performs live viewing. There will be no more TS to PES conversion. VDR will still record separate programmes, though. It won't record the entire TS.
is a lot of vdr-code need patch for this ? when will you plan to release next vdr 1.7.* version with new ts features ?
Igor aka Goga777
On 05/23/08 13:11, Goga777 wrote:
Will the TS mods that Klaus is currently working on mean that the full stream of the transponder can be recorded? Or will the HW full-TS mod still be needed?
The PES to TS switch will only change the way VDR records broadcasts and performs live viewing. There will be no more TS to PES conversion. VDR will still record separate programmes, though. It won't record the entire TS.
is a lot of vdr-code need patch for this ?
It's not too much, but at core locations and requires a lot of testing and debugging.
when will you plan to release next vdr 1.7.* version with new ts features ?
When it's ready ;-)
Klaus
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 04:42:06PM +0200, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
On 05/23/08 13:11, Goga777 wrote:
Will the TS mods that Klaus is currently working on mean that the full stream of the transponder can be recorded? Or will the HW full-TS mod still be needed?
The PES to TS switch will only change the way VDR records broadcasts and performs live viewing. There will be no more TS to PES conversion. VDR will still record separate programmes, though. It won't record the entire TS.
is a lot of vdr-code need patch for this ?
It's not too much, but at core locations and requires a lot of testing and debugging.
OK ... for replaying the TS stuff on a FF DVD card you need a simple remuxer which does TS -> PES with max. 2048 bytes per frame, do you?
Werner
On 05/23/08 17:39, Dr. Werner Fink wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 04:42:06PM +0200, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
On 05/23/08 13:11, Goga777 wrote:
Will the TS mods that Klaus is currently working on mean that the full stream of the transponder can be recorded? Or will the HW full-TS mod still be needed?
The PES to TS switch will only change the way VDR records broadcasts and performs live viewing. There will be no more TS to PES conversion. VDR will still record separate programmes, though. It won't record the entire TS.
is a lot of vdr-code need patch for this ?
It's not too much, but at core locations and requires a lot of testing and debugging.
OK ... for replaying the TS stuff on a FF DVD card you need a simple remuxer which does TS -> PES with max. 2048 bytes per frame, do you?
Not really. Currently I`m testing things in Transfer Mode, and what I do is to simply strip the TS header and send the payload to PlayVideo() and PlayAudio(), respectively.
Klaus
On Friday 23 May 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
On 05/23/08 13:11, Goga777 wrote:
is a lot of vdr-code need patch for this ?
It's not too much, but at core locations and requires a lot of testing and debugging.
Just a quick comment/question: have you considered changing the recording filenames to something else than *.vdr while doing the switch to TS? It's not that big of a deal, but distinguishing recordings from VDR's "internal" files, index.vdr and friends, by using eg. *.ts for recordings would help cases where apps are registered to handle files based on their filename extension and we want to use those apps to playback recordings and think that they can playback index.vdr etc.
On 05/24/08 08:13, Ville Skyttä wrote:
On Friday 23 May 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
On 05/23/08 13:11, Goga777 wrote:
is a lot of vdr-code need patch for this ?
It's not too much, but at core locations and requires a lot of testing and debugging.
Just a quick comment/question: have you considered changing the recording filenames to something else than *.vdr while doing the switch to TS? It's not that big of a deal, but distinguishing recordings from VDR's "internal" files, index.vdr and friends, by using eg. *.ts for recordings would help cases where apps are registered to handle files based on their filename extension and we want to use those apps to playback recordings and think that they can playback index.vdr etc.
Since the new recordign format will be a "real" Transport Stream, I will most likely change the names to *.ts - after all, VDR itself also needs to be able to distinguish betwen PES and TS recordings.
Klaus
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