Klaus Schmidinger skrev:

Tomas Prybil wrote:

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Hi list.

Since Klaus added the multiple sound stream feature i've not been able to use that for channels at Thor, mostly Canal+ distributed stuff.

I have an example, Disney now have a new channel called Toon Disney. The channel autoadded itself to channels.conf and shows the following details:

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Toon Disney;Telenor:11357:hC78:S1.0W:24500:521+8190:678=dan,679=fin,677=nor,676=sve:582:B00:3207:70:32:0

If I bring up tha audio menu it shows all four languages dan, fin, nor and sve. However if I choose either nor or sve the sound output becomes all silent. Could one kind soul please give me a hint how to start debug?

Could it be that your CAM can't decrypt more than one audio track? You could try to delete "678=dan,679=fin," from that line (disable automatic PID update) and then switch to nor or sve.

Does it work with other channels that have more than one audio track?

Reducing to one audio track made it work. However the "autopid" will kill that again. Perhaps the possibility to lock a specific channel something for future versions?

Thanks!

/t

Klaus Schmidinger skrev:

Tomas Prybil wrote:

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Klaus Schmidinger skrev:

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Tomas Prybil wrote:

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Hi list.

Since Klaus added the multiple sound stream feature i've not been able to use that for channels at Thor, mostly Canal+ distributed stuff.

I have an example, Disney now have a new channel called Toon Disney. The channel autoadded itself to channels.conf and shows the following details:

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Toon Disney;Telenor:11357:hC78:S1.0W:24500:521+8190:678=dan,679=fin,677=nor,676=sve:582:B00:3207:70:32:0

If I bring up tha audio menu it shows all four languages dan, fin, nor and sve. However if I choose either nor or sve the sound output becomes all silent. Could one kind soul please give me a hint how to start debug?

Could it be that your CAM can't decrypt more than one audio track? You could try to delete "678=dan,679=fin," from that line (disable automatic PID update) and then switch to nor or sve.

Does it work with other channels that have more than one audio track?

Reducing to one audio track made it work. However the "autopid" will kill that again. Perhaps the possibility to lock a specific channel something for future versions?

This "locking" thing is not the right way to go. It's probably better to modify the CAM handling, so that it only sets one audio PID for broken CAMs that are unable to decrypt several audio PIDs simultaneously.

Is there perhaps a newer firmware available for your CAM? I have three different CAMs here, and they all can decrypt several audio PIDs (plus Dolby Digital) at the same time.

My CAM is an Conax ver 4.00e which I believe is the latest version. It decrypts multiple (two!) streams. The channel has four different which it obviously doesn't handle.

/t

Klaus Schmidinger wrote:

Tomas Prybil wrote:

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Klaus Schmidinger skrev:

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Tomas Prybil wrote:

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Klaus Schmidinger skrev:

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Tomas Prybil wrote:

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Hi list.

Since Klaus added the multiple sound stream feature i've not been able to use that for channels at Thor, mostly Canal+ distributed stuff.

I have an example, Disney now have a new channel called Toon Disney. The channel autoadded itself to channels.conf and shows the following details:

> Toon > Disney;Telenor:11357:hC78:S1.0W:24500:521+8190:678=dan,679=fin,677=nor,676=sve:582:B00:3207:70:32:0 >

If I bring up tha audio menu it shows all four languages dan, fin, nor and sve. However if I choose either nor or sve the sound output becomes all silent. Could one kind soul please give me a hint how to start debug?

Could it be that your CAM can't decrypt more than one audio track? You could try to delete "678=dan,679=fin," from that line (disable automatic PID update) and then switch to nor or sve.

Does it work with other channels that have more than one audio track?

Reducing to one audio track made it work. However the "autopid" will kill that again. Perhaps the possibility to lock a specific channel something for future versions?

This "locking" thing is not the right way to go. It's probably better to modify the CAM handling, so that it only sets one audio PID for broken CAMs that are unable to decrypt several audio PIDs simultaneously.

Is there perhaps a newer firmware available for your CAM? I have three different CAMs here, and they all can decrypt several audio PIDs (plus Dolby Digital) at the same time.

My CAM is an Conax ver 4.00e which I believe is the latest version. It decrypts multiple (two!) streams. The channel has four different which it obviously doesn't handle.

Well, then I guess the only way to fix this is to set the audio PIDs in the sequence as they are defined in the "Audio languages" setup. This would put the preferred languages to the front, so that a CAM that can't decrypt them all will at least decrypt (one of) the preferred ones.

Does this really make a difference? I put swedish as only language but the pid still came in as no 3 in the APID list.

However, this is not that trivial, because the audio PIDs have to be correlated with the component descriptors in the EPG data, which is given only by their sequence.

I'll need to think about this a little more...

/t

Klaus Schmidinger skrev:

Tomas Prybil wrote:

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Klaus Schmidinger wrote:

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Tomas Prybil wrote:

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Klaus Schmidinger skrev:

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Tomas Prybil wrote:

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Klaus Schmidinger skrev:

> Tomas Prybil wrote: > >> Hi list. >> >> Since Klaus added the multiple sound stream feature i've not >> been able to use that for channels at Thor, mostly Canal+ >> distributed stuff. >> >> I have an example, >> Disney now have a new channel called Toon Disney. The channel >> autoadded itself to channels.conf and shows the following details: >> >>> Toon >>> Disney;Telenor:11357:hC78:S1.0W:24500:521+8190:678=dan,679=fin,677=nor,676=sve:582:B00:3207:70:32:0 >>> >> >> >> >> >> If I bring up tha audio menu it shows all four languages dan, >> fin, nor and sve. However if I choose either nor or sve the >> sound output becomes all silent. Could one kind soul please give >> me a hint how to start debug? > > > > > Could it be that your CAM can't decrypt more than one audio track? > You could try to delete "678=dan,679=fin," from that line > (disable automatic > PID update) and then switch to nor or sve. > > Does it work with other channels that have more than one audio > track? > Reducing to one audio track made it work. However the "autopid" will kill that again. Perhaps the possibility to lock a specific channel something for future versions?

This "locking" thing is not the right way to go. It's probably better to modify the CAM handling, so that it only sets one audio PID for broken CAMs that are unable to decrypt several audio PIDs simultaneously.

Is there perhaps a newer firmware available for your CAM? I have three different CAMs here, and they all can decrypt several audio PIDs (plus Dolby Digital) at the same time.

My CAM is an Conax ver 4.00e which I believe is the latest version. It decrypts multiple (two!) streams. The channel has four different which it obviously doesn't handle.

Well, then I guess the only way to fix this is to set the audio PIDs in the sequence as they are defined in the "Audio languages" setup. This would put the preferred languages to the front, so that a CAM that can't decrypt them all will at least decrypt (one of) the preferred ones.

Does this really make a difference? I put swedish as only language but the pid still came in as no 3 in the APID list.

The preferred audio language setting has nothing to do with the sequence or number of APIDs in the channel definition. The APIDs are always stored in the same sequence as they are broadcast.

What I was referring to was a possible change in the way VDR sets the APIDs when switching to a channel.

As I sais, I'll need to think about this a little more...

OK :)