Karim AFIFI wrote:
I will take a look to Atom CPU and Gemini Lake, but it seems there is no ATX motherboards, only mini-ITX (not enough slots PCI/PCI-E for me).
As you see, it's very complicated, I continue to search ...
Hi,
Asrock do a range of mATX cards with integrated Gemini Lake, but none with PCI slot, just 3 x PCIe 1x.
Klaus (VDR author), is using the J4105M, with vaapi, but be aware that not all Asrock boards play well with Digital Devices cards. This one seems to and DD are looking into it - see this thread:
https://www.vdr-portal.de/forum/index.php?thread/132649-i2c-timeouts-mit-ddb...
Regards,
Richard
Hello everybody,
On 9 May 2019 at 8:57, Richard Scobie wrote:
Asrock do a range of mATX cards with integrated Gemini Lake, but none with PCI slot, just 3 x PCIe 1x.
Good to know, nice try from AsRock, hardly anyone does mATX boards with an ATOM, which is a shame :-) OTOH, I don't like Asrock for two reasons: 1) they tend to support UEFI booting only, no legacy BIOS boot 2) they don't seem to have BIOS images publically available on the downloads site...
(I myself prefer Gigabyte, but they seem to neglect the Gemini Lake so far.)
Makes me wonder if it would be possible to get an ITX board with a PCI-e slot and combine that with a riser card, providing horizontal PCI slots. Unfortunately the risers and horizontal slot shields are typically a proprietary solution...
Klaus (VDR author), is using the J4105M, with vaapi,
Cool, now I know what I'm gonna buy for my HTPC :-)
Frank
Frantisek Rysanek wrote:
OTOH, I don't like Asrock for two reasons:
- they tend to support UEFI booting only, no legacy BIOS boot
- they don't seem to have BIOS images publically available on the
downloads site...
I've not had a problem finding BIOS updates - here's the page for the board I mentioned:
https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/J4105M/index.asp#BIOS
I've been using an older N3150 for a few years now, with a TT S2 6400 and a DD Cine S2 V7. The only issues have been very occasionally, one or other of the cards is not found at boot up, but I've had this on other manufacturers boards as well. Not sure if it's related to power down state.
Regards,
Richard
On 9 May 2019 at 10:45, Richard Scobie wrote:
Frantisek Rysanek wrote:
OTOH, I don't like Asrock for two reasons:
- they tend to support UEFI booting only, no legacy BIOS boot
- they don't seem to have BIOS images publically available on the
downloads site...
I've not had a problem finding BIOS updates - here's the page for the board I mentioned:
:-) Thanks for proving me wrong, and I apologize for spreading FUD about Asrock... That said, I've just tried to arrive at that URL by starting from www.asrock.com and I'm still kind of lost.
If I go via Support -> Latest BIOS update, or "BIOS version finding" I end up somewhere here: https://www.asrock.com/support/index.asp?cat=BIOS No way to search for 4105, and that motherboard model is not listed in the table of "latest BIOS updates".
If I go via Products -> Motherboards, ... okay it loads kind of sluggish, and only works for me in Pale Moon, not in the fresh Firefox, but yes ultimately I have finally found the product and the grey menu bar with "support" on it, then a BIOS button, and yes it's pointing to the page you have provided. => it was a PEBKAC on my part after all, and the whole debate is about webmastering, rather than PC hardware.
Just out of curiosity I've compared to Gigabyte and ASUS...
The Gigabyte website has noticeably fewer "frills", and finding the BIOS via "Support" rather than "Products" is also straightforward.
With ASUS, the number of sluggish supersize graphical posters is more significant, and the number of clicks required to get a BIOS is also non-trivial, but ultimately you can still get a BIOS by going via "support" and entering a particular substring of the board name.
(I probably should not mention Advantech here ;-) - the best way is via Google search, or you need to know/derive the URL to their support website and search by product name from there. Their product listing is not a good start. And they don't have a BIOS for every product in their public downloads. As a halfway insider, I know who to ask and we hardly ever need to update the BIOS these days, but I'm applying a double standard here.)
I'm probably just biased after all. I've grown up in an age when websites tended to be intuitive to navigate, and straight to the point. Or maybe that's just the way my merciful memories of my youth would have it. This is not about motherboards. I'm getting old.
Frank
Frantisek Rysanek wrote:
I've grown up in an age when websites tended to be intuitive to navigate, and straight to the point. Or maybe that's just the way my merciful memories of my youth would have it. This is not about motherboards. I'm getting old.
You and me both... :)
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