Hi,
I've been thinking of a PVR solution where all DVB cards are installed on a server and several clients connect to it. Each client must behave like they are in control (normal menu operations even though most likely a bit slower due network delays). Of course the number of DVB cards define the limit how many different muxes are available or how many crypted channels can be viewed at a time but those are understandable limits.
There would be at least 2 clients but most likely later on 4+ clients. Clients would be without HD most likely (network or USB stick boot).
Is there a solution (reliable) for this kind of system available?
Br, Pasi
Pasi Juppo wrote:
I've been thinking of a PVR solution where all DVB cards are installed on a server and several clients connect to it. Each client must behave like they are in control (normal menu operations even though most likely a bit slower due network delays). Of course the number of DVB cards define the limit how many different muxes are available or how many crypted channels can be viewed at a time but those are understandable limits.
There would be at least 2 clients but most likely later on 4+ clients. Clients would be without HD most likely (network or USB stick boot).
Is there a solution (reliable) for this kind of system available?
I am using Hauppauge MediaMVPs to connect to a central VDR system containing 3 DVB-S cards. VOMP is running on the MediaMVPs (http://www.loggytronic.com) and apart from missing * DVD support * Cutting
this system contains everything I want. And it has a great WAF factor :-)
On Sat, 2007-01-06 at 20:10 +0100, Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote:
Is there a solution (reliable) for this kind of system available?
I am using Hauppauge MediaMVPs to connect to a central VDR system containing 3 DVB-S cards. VOMP is running on the MediaMVPs (http://www.loggytronic.com) and apart from missing
- DVD support
- Cutting
No dropped frames, bad av sync or other playback issues?
Torgeir Veimo wrote:
On Sat, 2007-01-06 at 20:10 +0100, Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote:
Is there a solution (reliable) for this kind of system available?
I am using Hauppauge MediaMVPs to connect to a central VDR system containing 3 DVB-S cards. VOMP is running on the MediaMVPs
No dropped frames, bad av sync or other playback issues?
Nothing that can't be fixed by either switching a channel or pause/play on the remote.
On Saturday 06 January 2007 20:16, Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote:
Torgeir Veimo wrote:
On Sat, 2007-01-06 at 20:10 +0100, Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote:
Is there a solution (reliable) for this kind of system available?
I am using Hauppauge MediaMVPs to connect to a central VDR system containing 3 DVB-S cards. VOMP is running on the MediaMVPs
No dropped frames, bad av sync or other playback issues?
Nothing that can't be fixed by either switching a channel or pause/play on the remote.
This looks quite interesting... I've currently got about three full PCs using nfs-mounted /video directories. Would be a much nicer solution to use a thin client setup.
What video output(s) has the MVP actually got? I've just been reading stuff on the web and I've seen composite, S-video, and RGB component mentioned in various places. Are there different versions of these things, apart from wired / wireless?
Does it really work this well? I'm not too bothered about editing recordings from it (use vdrsync for that!) but setting timers would be useful.
Cheers,
Laz
Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote:
I am using Hauppauge MediaMVPs to connect to a central VDR system containing 3 DVB-S cards. VOMP is running on the MediaMVPs (http://www.loggytronic.com) and apart from missing
- DVD support
- Cutting
right now i'm working on implementing full cuttingmarks support on vomp. After Chris accepted the basics of cutting marks (loading from server, display & jump), i'm now working on setting/deleting/moving and uploading marks to server. News about this will be posted to loggytronic board.
regards, Friedhelm
Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote:
Pasi Juppo wrote:
I've been thinking of a PVR solution where all DVB cards are installed on a server and several clients connect to it. Each client must behave like they are in control (normal menu operations even though most likely a bit slower due network delays). Of course the number of DVB cards define the limit how many different muxes are available or how many crypted channels can be viewed at a time but those are understandable limits.
There would be at least 2 clients but most likely later on 4+ clients. Clients would be without HD most likely (network or USB stick boot).
Is there a solution (reliable) for this kind of system available?
I am using Hauppauge MediaMVPs to connect to a central VDR system containing 3 DVB-S cards. VOMP is running on the MediaMVPs (http://www.loggytronic.com) and apart from missing
- DVD support
- Cutting
this system contains everything I want. And it has a great WAF factor :-)
Now this looked very good! Almost exactly what I was after. Few things missing still but seems that there is active development thus will be implemented later on.
Few things missing: -HDTV due to HW. Any idea if there is going to be HDTV version of the HW later on? Most likely HTPC is much better solution for HDTV anyway due to deinterlace and scaling which requires quite much CPU power (see next Q about PC version of VOMP).
-similar (or same) system running on PC. The idea for kitchen (yes, I'd like to have TV on kitchen for the morning news) TV would be to use "All in one LCD" -type of PC such as this: http://hitony.en.alibaba.com/product/0/51321326/15__All_in_One_LCD_PC.html
Does VOMP work on normal PC as well (I missed this info)?
-the graphics on VOMP I assume is not changeable (no skin or theme support -> would require recompiling I assume but still)?
What about the picture quality of the MediaMVP: is it good, average, poor?
Anyway, this is very good news!
Br, Pasi
Pasi Juppo kirjoitti:
Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote:
I am using Hauppauge MediaMVPs to connect to a central VDR system containing 3 DVB-S cards. VOMP is running on the MediaMVPs (http://www.loggytronic.com) and apart from missing
- DVD support
- Cutting
this system contains everything I want. And it has a great WAF factor :-)
Now this looked very good! Almost exactly what I was after. Few things missing still but seems that there is active development thus will be implemented later on.
I took a look at this also. It seems good as long as you do not watch channels with subtitles. And we do have those in finland (YLE).
Few things missing: -HDTV due to HW. Any idea if there is going to be HDTV version of the HW later on? Most likely HTPC is much better solution for HDTV anyway due to deinterlace and scaling which requires quite much CPU power (see next Q about PC version of VOMP).
Subtitle support should be added to missing things.
-similar (or same) system running on PC. The idea for kitchen (yes, I'd like to have TV on kitchen for the morning news) TV would be to use "All in one LCD" -type of PC such as this: http://hitony.en.alibaba.com/product/0/51321326/15__All_in_One_LCD_PC.html
Does VOMP work on normal PC as well (I missed this info)?
There is also a windows client if this is what you meant. Can be found on the same site.
-the graphics on VOMP I assume is not changeable (no skin or theme support -> would require recompiling I assume but still)?
What about the picture quality of the MediaMVP: is it good, average, poor?
Anyway, this is very good news!
Br, Pasi
Even though missing subtitles I decided to get a MediaMVP for my self as a bedroom box.
\Kartsa
I am using Hauppauge MediaMVPs to connect to a central VDR system containing 3 DVB-S cards. VOMP is running on the MediaMVPs (http://www.loggytronic.com) and apart from missing
- DVD support
- Cutting
this system contains everything I want. And it has a great WAF factor :-)
What kind of network is needed for good picture quality, is 100 mb lan enough or is 1 gb needed?
Mika
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 12:58:10PM +0200, lamikr wrote:
I am using Hauppauge MediaMVPs to connect to a central VDR system containing 3 DVB-S cards. VOMP is running on the MediaMVPs (http://www.loggytronic.com) and apart from missing
- DVD support
- Cutting
this system contains everything I want. And it has a great WAF factor :-)
What kind of network is needed for good picture quality, is 100 mb lan enough or is 1 gb needed?
100 Mb/s LAN is enough. Come to think of it, the SDTV DVB stream is only a few megabits per second, and it is the compressed MPEG stream that is being transferred. However, I wouldn't try this over WLAN.
Marko
In 20070109104412.GA3419@localhost.localdomain, Marko Mäkelä wrote:
100 Mb/s LAN is enough. Come to think of it, the SDTV DVB stream is only a few megabits per second, and it is the compressed MPEG stream that is being transferred. However, I wouldn't try this over WLAN.
The error protection in streaming protocols didn't seem to be able to cope when I tried over WLAN (54g with not terribly good reception). IIRC I was using dvbstream. However, the same connection nearly always worked fine, except on one or two occasions, for watching a recording over NFS.
En/na Tony Houghton ha escrit:
In 20070109104412.GA3419@localhost.localdomain, Marko Mäkelä wrote:
100 Mb/s LAN is enough. Come to think of it, the SDTV DVB stream is only a few megabits per second, and it is the compressed MPEG stream that is being transferred. However, I wouldn't try this over WLAN.
The error protection in streaming protocols didn't seem to be able to cope when I tried over WLAN (54g with not terribly good reception). IIRC I was using dvbstream. However, the same connection nearly always worked fine, except on one or two occasions, for watching a recording over NFS.
I routinely use an WLAN connection with vdr and the xine plugin (with network patches). No problem here.
Bye
On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 12:58 +0200, lamikr wrote:
I am using Hauppauge MediaMVPs to connect to a central VDR system containing 3 DVB-S cards. VOMP is running on the MediaMVPs (http://www.loggytronic.com) and apart from missing
- DVD support
- Cutting
this system contains everything I want. And it has a great WAF factor :-)
What kind of network is needed for good picture quality, is 100 mb lan enough or is 1 gb needed?
Mika
Mika,
Have a look another projects either www.plutohome.org or www.mythtv.org
It's was designed as a "Centralized" solution and working out of the box quite well.
Vladimir
Vladimir Kangin schrieb:
On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 12:58 +0200, lamikr wrote:
I am using Hauppauge MediaMVPs to connect to a central VDR system containing 3 DVB-S cards. VOMP is running on the MediaMVPs (http://www.loggytronic.com) and apart from missing
- DVD support
- Cutting
this system contains everything I want. And it has a great WAF factor :-)
What kind of network is needed for good picture quality, is 100 mb lan enough or is 1 gb needed?
People on the VOMP forum are using it over WLAN. I am using it on a switched 100Mbit net without a problem.
Have a look another projects either www.plutohome.org or www.mythtv.org
Especially plutohome.org seems to be, with regards to VDR, in a not so Plug'n'Play state at the moment. In the german vdr-portal are some discussions with regards to implementing VDR within plutohome
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