castet.matthieu@free.fr wrote:

Selon castet.matthieu@free.fr:

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Hi,

I have seen that on a channel (hotbird, multivision 3), the audio descrition is in the wrong order : for the french channel it is "audio stereo eng" and for the english one it is "audio stereo fra". I don't know if it is a vdr bug or a bug in the info send by the provider, but I believe it could be usefull to add to the description the channel language ie "description" become "description (lang)".

If the audio pid is switch the description isn"t switch : seem like a vdr bug.

Also it seem than for all channel that provide description more than one the order is wrong. If they provide only one description and the other audio stream don't have one, the order is ok.

From all the channels I've seen so far, the descriptions always matched the actual PID settings. I assume this is a problem of that particular provider. In the PID data they announce

330=fra 331=eng

while in the EPG data they have

X 2 03 eng AUDIO STEREO eng X 2 03 fra AUDIO STEREO fra

which is just reversed.

You might want to contact your provider and ask them why they are broadcasting the description in the reverse order.

Klaus

matthieu castet wrote:

Hi,

Klaus Schmidinger wrote:

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From all the channels I've seen so far, the descriptions always matched the actual PID settings. I assume this is a problem of that particular provider. In the PID data they announce

330=fra 331=eng

while in the EPG data they have

X 2 03 eng AUDIO STEREO eng X 2 03 fra AUDIO STEREO fra

which is just reversed.

Why do you care about the order it is provided in EPG data ? I think this wrong because if I enter the pid by hand, why I couldn't enter first 331=eng and then 330=fra or even just 331=eng if I don't care about the French audio stream?

I don't know what are the information available in EPG data, but in your example it seem there is the language, so why couldn't you use it ?

The PID data and the description are broadcast in two separate SI tables. So far the only way to corellate them seems to be the sequence in which they are given. If you manually manipulate the PID entries in channels.conf this is no longer possible. There is also no guarantee that the audio track description contains any reference to a language, nor that the language code that comes with an audio track description is at all correct.

Klaus

matthieu castet wrote:

Hi,

Klaus Schmidinger wrote:

...

matthieu castet wrote:

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Hi,

Klaus Schmidinger wrote:

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From all the channels I've seen so far, the descriptions always matched the actual PID settings. I assume this is a problem of that particular provider. In the PID data they announce

330=fra 331=eng

while in the EPG data they have

X 2 03 eng AUDIO STEREO eng X 2 03 fra AUDIO STEREO fra

which is just reversed.

Why do you care about the order it is provided in EPG data ? I think this wrong because if I enter the pid by hand, why I couldn't enter first 331=eng and then 330=fra or even just 331=eng if I don't care about the French audio stream?

I don't know what are the information available in EPG data, but in your example it seem there is the language, so why couldn't you use it ?

The PID data and the description are broadcast in two separate SI tables. So far the only way to corellate them seems to be the sequence in which they are given. If you manually manipulate the PID entries in channels.conf this is no longer possible. There is also no guarantee that the audio track description contains any reference to a language, nor that the language code that comes with an audio track description is at all correct.

Ok,

so adding the PID language in EPG audio description could be nice.

Not really. For instance the German pay tv channels announce their PIDs with

1792=deu 1793=deu

and their track descriptions are

deutsch englisch

So on PID 1792 we get the German audio track, and on 1793 the English one (despite the "deu" in the PID). I don't think it would make things any clearer if the audio track descriptions in the Audio menu would read

deutsch (deu) englisch (deu)

would it? ;-)

This whole thing can only be reasonably solved if the providers finally start setting their data correctly.

Klaus