vdr January 2010

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Re: [vdr] VDR crashes while recording a high bandwith channel
by Martin Dauskardt 17 Jan '10

17 Jan '10

Several users have reported in the vdrportal forum that the bandwidth problem on FF cards became worse when switching from vdr 1.6 to 1.7 Even installing an additional budget card will not help, because since 1.6 vdr does not always prefer the budget card for recordings. A simple solution could be to install a DVB-T device and configure vdr to always start on a DVB-T channel. But the suspendoutput plugin should do the same trick.

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VDR crashes while recording a high bandwith channel
by Christopher Reimer 17 Jan '10

17 Jan '10

Hello, my VDR has exactly *one* Full Featured DVB card as tuner card. The card has *no* hardware mods. If I record a channel with "higher bandwith" (like the german ARD) and watch this channel at the same time, then, after some time, VDR, the driver or "something else" seems to get problems with some kind of "buffer". The following log is from a try with VDR 1.7.10, but I'm able to reproduce the same bug with 1.7.11, too. The DVB drivers are the latest drivers from the v4l hg repository.… [View More] While this recording, the OSD also gets *pretty* slow. Seems like the FF-card gets pretty busy. Yours Christopher Reimer Log follows: Jan 2 13:13:00 vdr vdr: [3691] switching device 1 to channel 5 Jan 2 13:13:01 vdr vdr: [3702] TS buffer on device 1 thread ended (pid=3691, tid=3702) Jan 2 13:13:01 vdr vdr: [3691] timer 1 (5 1313-1535 'Catch me if you can - Mein Leben auf der Flucht') start Jan 2 13:13:01 vdr vdr: [3691] Title: 'Catch me if you can - Mein Leben auf der Flucht' Subtitle: 'Spielfilm USA 2002 (Catch me if you can)' Jan 2 13:13:01 vdr vdr: [3691] record /var/vdr/video0/Catch_me_if_you_can_-_Mein_Leben_auf_der_Flucht/2010-01-02.13.13.5-0.rec Jan 2 13:13:01 vdr vdr: [3691] creating directory /var/vdr/video0/Catch_me_if_you_can_-_Mein_Leben_auf_der_Flucht Jan 2 13:13:01 vdr vdr: [3691] creating directory /var/vdr/video0/Catch_me_if_you_can_-_Mein_Leben_auf_der_Flucht/2010-01-02.13.13.5-0.rec Jan 2 13:13:01 vdr vdr: [3701] buffer stats: 4136 (0%) used Jan 2 13:13:01 vdr vdr: [3701] receiver on device 1 thread ended (pid=3691, tid=3701) Jan 2 13:13:01 vdr vdr: [3691] recording to '/var/vdr/video0/Catch_me_if_you_can_-_Mein_Leben_auf_der_Flucht/2010-01-02.13.13.5-0.rec/00001.ts' Jan 2 13:13:01 vdr vdr: [3708] recording thread started (pid=3691, tid=3708) Jan 2 13:13:01 vdr vdr: [3709] receiver on device 1 thread started (pid=3691, tid=3709) Jan 2 13:13:01 vdr vdr: [3710] TS buffer on device 1 thread started (pid=3691, tid=3710) Jan 2 13:13:02 vdr vdr: [3691] switching to channel 3 Jan 2 13:13:02 vdr vdr: [3691] info: Kanal nicht verfügbar! Jan 2 13:13:03 vdr vdr: [3697] channel 5 (Das Erste) event Sam 02.01.2010 13:10-13:15 (VPS: 02.01 13:10) 'Tagesschau' status 4 Jan 2 13:13:04 vdr vdr: [3691] switching to channel 5 Jan 2 13:13:04 vdr vdr: [3691] buffer stats: 0 (0%) used Jan 2 13:13:04 vdr vdr: [3691] creating directory /var/cache/vdr/vtx/S19.2E-1-1101-28106 Jan 2 13:13:04 vdr vdr: [3711] osdteletext-receiver thread started (pid=3691, tid=3711) Jan 2 13:13:05 vdr vdr: [3691] OSD size changed to 720x576 @ 1,42222 Jan 2 13:14:31 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 70% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:14:31 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 60% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:14:31 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 70% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:14:31 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 60% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:14:31 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 70% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:14:31 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 60% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:14:31 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 70% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:14:31 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 60% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:14:31 vdr vdr: [3710] 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[3710] buffer usage: 60% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:14:41 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 70% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:14:41 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 60% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:14:41 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 70% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:14:41 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 60% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:14:41 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 70% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:14:41 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 60% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:14:41 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 70% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:14:41 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 60% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:15:08 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 70% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:15:08 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 60% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:15:08 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 70% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:15:10 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 80% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:15:16 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 90% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:15:18 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 100% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:15:55 vdr vdr: [3697] channel 5 (Das Erste) event Sam 02.01.2010 13:10-13:15 (VPS: 02.01 13:10) 'Tagesschau' status 1 Jan 2 13:15:56 vdr vdr: [3697] channel 5 (Das Erste) event Sam 02.01.2010 13:15-15:25 (VPS: 02.01 13:15) 'Catch me if you can - Mein Leben auf der Flucht' status 2 Jan 2 13:16:33 vdr vdr: [3710] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1 Jan 2 13:16:35 vdr vdr: [3709] ERROR: skipped 11 bytes to sync on TS packet on device 1 Jan 2 13:16:50 vdr vdr: [3697] channel 5 (Das Erste) event Sam 02.01.2010 13:15-15:25 (VPS: 02.01 13:15) 'Catch me if you can - Mein Leben auf der Flucht' status 4 Jan 2 13:17:15 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 60% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:17:15 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 70% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:17:16 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 80% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:17:17 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 90% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:17:17 vdr vdr: [3710] buffer usage: 100% (tid=3709) Jan 2 13:19:47 vdr vdr: [3710] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1 Jan 2 13:19:50 vdr vdr: [3709] ERROR: skipped 11 bytes to sync on TS packet on device 1 Jan 2 13:24:36 vdr vdr: [3710] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1 Jan 2 13:24:38 vdr vdr: [3709] ERROR: skipped 11 bytes to sync on TS packet on device 1 Jan 2 13:25:56 vdr vdr: [3710] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1 Jan 2 13:25:58 vdr vdr: [3709] ERROR: skipped 11 bytes to sync on TS packet on device 1 Jan 2 13:36:02 vdr vdr: [3710] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1 Jan 2 13:36:04 vdr vdr: [3709] ERROR: skipped 11 bytes to sync on TS packet on device 1 Jan 2 13:37:59 vdr vdr: [3710] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1 Jan 2 13:38:01 vdr vdr: [3709] ERROR: skipped 11 bytes to sync on TS packet on device 1 Jan 2 13:44:33 vdr vdr: [3710] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1 Jan 2 13:44:36 vdr vdr: [3709] ERROR: skipped 11 bytes to sync on TS packet on device 1 Jan 2 13:46:17 vdr vdr: [3710] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1 Jan 2 13:46:19 vdr vdr: [3709] ERROR: skipped 11 bytes to sync on TS packet on device 1 Jan 2 13:47:22 vdr vdr: [3710] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1 Jan 2 13:47:24 vdr vdr: [3709] ERROR: skipped 11 bytes to sync on TS packet on device 1 Jan 2 13:48:09 vdr vdr: [3710] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1 Jan 2 13:48:12 vdr vdr: [3709] ERROR: skipped 11 bytes to sync on TS packet on device 1 Jan 2 13:48:52 vdr vdr: [3710] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1 Jan 2 13:48:54 vdr vdr: [3709] ERROR: skipped 11 bytes to sync on TS packet on device 1 Jan 2 13:49:10 vdr vdr: [3710] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1 Jan 2 13:49:13 vdr vdr: [3709] ERROR: skipped 11 bytes to sync on TS packet on device 1 Jan 2 13:49:35 vdr vdr: [3710] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1 Jan 2 13:49:37 vdr vdr: [3709] ERROR: skipped 11 bytes to sync on TS packet on device 1 Jan 2 13:50:10 vdr vdr: [3710] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1 Jan 2 13:50:13 vdr vdr: [3709] ERROR: skipped 11 bytes to sync on TS packet on device 1 Jan 2 13:50:49 vdr vdr: [3710] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1 Jan 2 13:50:51 vdr vdr: [3709] ERROR: skipped 11 bytes to sync on TS packet on device 1 Jan 2 13:52:19 vdr vdr: [3710] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1 Jan 2 13:52:21 vdr vdr: [3709] ERROR: skipped 11 bytes to sync on TS packet on device 1 Jan 2 13:52:27 vdr vdr: [3708] recording to '/var/vdr/video0/Catch_me_if_you_can_-_Mein_Leben_auf_der_Flucht/2010-01-02.13.13.5-0.rec/00002.ts' Jan 2 13:54:08 vdr vdr: [3710] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1 Jan 2 13:54:10 vdr vdr: [3709] ERROR: skipped 11 bytes to sync on TS packet on device 1 Jan 2 13:55:50 vdr vdr: [3710] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1 Jan 2 13:55:52 vdr vdr: [3709] ERROR: skipped 11 bytes to sync on TS packet on device 1 [View Less]

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Channel wrapping in live-tv
by Matti Lehtimäki 17 Jan '10

17 Jan '10

Hi, One small feature I find is missing from vdr is to have the possibility to go from the last channel to the first channel and vice versa when changing channel to next/previous channel in live-tv mode. This is the normal behaviour in most TVs. So I made a small patch for vdr-1.7.11 (can be applied also to vdr-1.6.0) to make this possible with a menu option to enable/disable the feature. Would it be possible to have this feature included in future releases of vdr? -- Matti

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VDR with DD5.1 output over xineliboutput possible
by Matthias Fechner 16 Jan '10

16 Jan '10

Hi, I was now successfully to vdr 1.7.10 with xineliboutput and vdpau support running. Output is via HDMI from my atom board. But I'm not able to get DD5.1 output over HDMI running. Maybe someone can give a hint what is wrong or missing. Here is an extract what I did to get xinelibout running: Make sure you have a current gcc on the system, I used gcc-4.3.4. gcc-config -l gcc-config 2 source /etc/profile I use the following versions: nvidia 190.53 (install with sh /usr/portage/… [View More]

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xineliboutput - audiotracck switching problems
by Marco Skambraks 16 Jan '10

16 Jan '10

hi, I'm using the latest xineliboutput with vdr-1.7.10 if I switch the audiotrack of a channel very rapidly xineliboutput produces dropouts and starts stuttering and after 5-10 sec. (still switching) the vdr -> vdr-sxfe connection will crash vdr-sxfe is abel to reconnect after 2s but audio and video is still unstable - if I wait for 10-20s audio/video is OK I tried udp and tcp (localhost) connection - same results any ideas? thanks marco

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implementing channel plug-in
by Theunis Potgieter 16 Jan '10

16 Jan '10

I was in search for a plug-in that could map alternative long names to the supposedly current long name of a channel. I guess I didn't search hard and long enough, but could not find one that would implement this behaviour. The idea is, that when ever a channel list is called, it will provide the alternative long name, but saves the original long name in channels.conf. So I thought of implementing one my self. After reading the PLUGINS.html from VDR-1.7.10, I thought it would be possible. I … [View More]

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Re: [vdr] Hauppauge PVR HD
by Martin Dauskardt 14 Jan '10

14 Jan '10

> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:00:49 -0600 > From: Rob Davis <rob(a)davis-family.info> > Subject: [vdr] Hauppauge PVR HD > > Does anyone have any experience with this? Does it work with the > pvr-input plugin? there is a linux driver and support for mythtv. But pvrinput does not support it, as it is currently a "cx2341x"-plugin (mpeg2-hardware encoder chips cx23415/cx23416/cx23418). There is also a big difference: The HD PVR delivers not mpeg2 but a h264/mpg4 stream.… [View More]

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vdr shutdownskript - wrong time
by Steffen Barszus 13 Jan '10

13 Jan '10

Hi ! Looks like vdr's shutdownskript hook is not properly working. Since it seems to be undocumented in vdr man page i took my information from here: http://www.vdr-wiki.de/wiki/index.php/C%27t-VDR_-_Hooks #!/bin/sh # Simple ACPI shutdown hook # $1 : Next timer seconds from 1970 from 1970/01/01, UTC # $2 : Next timer seconds from now # $3 : Next timer title # $4 : Shutdown forced If the time is far enough in the future this is correct, if it is only few minutes in the future it gets … [View More]

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[ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.11
by Klaus Schmidinger 12 Jan '10

12 Jan '10

VDR developer version 1.7.11 is now available at ftp://ftp.tvdr.de/vdr/Developer/vdr-1.7.11.tar.bz2 A 'diff' against the previous version is available at ftp://ftp.tvdr.de/vdr/Developer/vdr-1.7.10-1.7.11.diff WARNING: ======== This is a *developer* version. Even though *I* use it in my productive environment. I strongly recommend that you only use it under controlled conditions and for testing and debugging. The changes since version 1.7.10: - Fixed resetting the file size … [View More]when regenerating the index file. - The new function cDevice::PatPmtParser() can be used in derived devices to access the PAT/PMT of the currently replayed material. - Updated the Italian OSD texts (thanks to Diego Pierotto). - The PCR pid in generated PMTs is now set to 0x1FFF ("no PCR pid") in cPatPmtGenerator::GeneratePmt(), because VDR doesn't record the PCR pid. - Updated the Estonian OSD texts (thanks to Arthur Konovalov). - The 'sky' plugin is no longer part of the VDR source. - Improved SPU handling on devices with limited OSD capabilities (thanks to Matthieu Castet). - Several code modifications to avoid compiler warnings (thanks to Winfried Ko"hler). - Added stream type 11172 AUDIO to cPatPmtParser::ParsePmt() (thanks to Johann Friedrichs). - Removed debug output of '-' from cTransfer::Receive(). - Added defines for large files to the 'newplugin' script (reported by Udo Richter). - Removed the workaround for short channel names of "Kabel Deutschland", because apparently they now have their data according to the DVB standard (thanks to Johann Friedrichs). - Some fixes to dvbspu.[hc] (thanks to Johann Friedrichs). - Fixed a busy loop when moving editing marks (thanks to Johann Friedrichs). - Updated sources.conf (thanks to Derek Kelly). - Modified cCharSetConv so that it can be used to convert from "whatever VDR uses" to a given code (thanks to Joachim Wilke). - Channel names containing commas are now handled correctly in channels.conf. If a channel's short name contains a comma, it is replaced with a '.'. - cDevice now logs the device number when a new device is created. - Fixed handling STREAMTYPE_11172_AUDIO in cPatPmtParser::ParsePmt(). - cParsePatPmt now has functions to retrieve the audio, dolby and subtitle pids. - cPatFilter::Process() now only stores CA descriptors for video and audio pids (thanks to Francesco Saverio Schiavarelli for reporting a problem with channels that have some encrypted components that VDR doesn't use). - cDevice::AddPid() now stores the stream type of the given pid (thanks to Andreas Regel). - Added cFont::FontName() and cFont::Size() (thanks to Andreas Regel). - cPatPmtParser now also stores the audio stream types. - The support for full featured DVB cards of the TT/FuSi design has been moved into the new plugin 'dvbsddevice'. On systems that use such a card as their primary device, this plugin now needs to be loaded when running VDR in order to view live or recorded video. If the plugin is not loaded, the card will be treated like a budget DVB card, and there will be no OSD or viewing capability. - Fixed handling the "CA PMT" generation (revised a change not mentioned in version 1.7.9's changes, which caused a malfunction with Conax and Viaccess CAMs). - Fixed stopping subtitle display when switching the primary device (thanks to Anssi Hannula). IMPORTANT NOTE TO PLUGIN AUTHORS: a plugin that implements a derived cDevice class that can replay video must now call the MakePrimaryDevice() function of its base class. - Fixed compiler warnings "format not a string literal and no format arguments" in some syslog calls (thanks to Rolf Ahrenberg). - The new command line options --edit and --genindex can be used to edit a recording or generate its index without actually starting the entire VDR (based on a patch from Helmut Auer). - Improved the description of the transponder parameters in vdr.5 (thanks to Winfried Ko"hler). - Avoiding setting the video stream type to 2 if the vpid is 0 (problem reported by Arthur Konovalov). - Implemented handling the "Content Descriptor" (based on a patch from Rolf Ahrenberg). The 'classic', 'sttng' and 'curses' skins display the textual representation of the content descriptors as "genre". The epg.data file stores the genre using the tag character 'G'. - Implemented handling the "Parental Rating Descriptor" (based on a patch from Rolf Ahrenberg). The 'classic', 'sttng' and 'curses' skins display the parental rating (if given) in their event displays. The epg.data file stores the parental rating using the tag character 'R'. IMPORTANT NOTE: if VDR doesn't display a parental rating, this does not necessarily mean that the given programme is suitable for all audiences! - Rearranged cEvent members to minimize memory waste. - After a CLRE command, no further EPG processing is now done for 10 seconds, so that data sent with subsequent PUTE commands doesn't interfere with data from the broadcasters (suggested by Helmut Auer). - Added support for DVB cards with multiple fontends. Note that this only works for DVB cards where each frontend can be used independently of all the others on the same adapter. - Fixed plugin arguments corruption with glibc 2.11 on x86_64 (thanks to Anssi Hannula). Have fun! Klaus [View Less]

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Hauppauge PVR HD
by Rob Davis 12 Jan '10

12 Jan '10

Does anyone have any experience with this? Does it work with the pvr-input plugin? I am currently using pvr-input connected to s-video to my cable hd box. I use the iptv plugin as it allows me to launch a script to change channels on the cable box. -- Latest news on http://www.stpixels.com/view_blog.cgi?user=66685 Rob Davis

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