vdr December 2008

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vdr + xbmc
by serge pecher 02 Dec '08

02 Dec '08

>I was intrigued to see what is this XBMC all around and found that thread in >XBMC forum: >http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=36988 >L >ooks >like >there is a way to stream live TV to XBMC from VDR already. Any reason you >don't use that option and prefer to have 2 frontends? its working, but its not easy to zap ! and that's also why I use a second frontend sp

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Re: [vdr] vdr + xbmc
by Niels Wagenaar 02 Dec '08

02 Dec '08

-----Original message----- From: Alex Betis <alex.betis(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tue 02-12-2008 15:54 To: VDR Mailing List <vdr(a)linuxtv.org>; Subject: Re: [vdr] vdr + xbmc > -- SNIP -- > I was intrigued to see what is this XBMC all around and found that thread in XBMC > forum: > http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=36988 > > Looks like there is a way to stream live TV to XBMC from VDR already. Any > reason you don't use that option and prefer to have 2 frontends? > That plugin had some issues last time I tried it. For instance: - zapping is very slow on encrypted and non-encrypted channels; - No bouquets are shown; - 4:3 broadcasts doesn't get automaticly set to 16:9 output; - Plugin needs to configured/started within video environment of XBMC (no own menu); Just not really workable atm, at least for me that is. But there's talk about implenting VDR frontend within XBMC. But that's just it, it's just talk. For a high WAF implementation, the VDR/XBMC switch wins hands down. Regards, Niels Wagenaar

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Popcorn Hour vdr-ui development
by jori.hamalainen＠teliasonera.com 02 Dec '08

02 Dec '08

It seems that somebody has already begun an action on German NMT-forum to implement a PCH UI. In German http://www.hdd-player.de/syabas/showthread.php?tid=5201&pid=71288#pid71288 I've tested that. It brings basic EPG&timer-functionality to PCH with ability to tune to channel via streamdev. So it is a good start. But my personal opinion is that why he does a PCH software. It is hard to install and requires resources at PCH as it launches another 'web server'. Why not vdradmin-type of server to VDR machine to provide UI 1--N PCH-machines without installations? There is one bug to report, if EPG is missing, the program does not list the channel. But thanks Oli for making such a piece of software. Compared to plain streamdev this program enables to see if there is something to worth of watching on HD channels before tuning to it. BR, Jori

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vdr + xbmc
by serge pecher 02 Dec '08

02 Dec '08

> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:48:53 +0100 (CET) > From: "Niels Wagenaar" n.wagenaar(a)xs4all.nl > Subject: Re: [vdr] MythTV Adds Support For NVIDIA VDPAU > To: "VDR Mailing List" vdr(a)linuxtv.org > Message-ID: > 5065.130.36.62.141.1228150133.squirrel(a)webmail.xs4all.nl > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > Op Ma, 1 december, 2008 17:31, schreef Magnus Andersson: >> >>> And from my point of view, MythTV is still not as accesible compared too >>> for instance Mediaportal or Microsoft MCE. IMHO, the best combo is still >>> VDR for DVB viewing in combination with XBMC for multimedia viewing. But >>> then again, this is my oppinion :-) >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Niels Wagenaar >>> >> >> I agree. Do you have a working script or a good way to switch between >> xbmc and vdr? There are a few threads about this at >> http://xbmc.org/forum/ but no good solution. I want to use vdr as I use >> it today with fast channelswitching and without http connection to >> streamdev plugin. >> > > I use VDR in combination with the Reel HDe and XBMC in Xubuntu 8.10. The > HDE uses HDMI while XBMC is using the onboard VGA connection. I use two > remotes : Hauppauge remote for VDR (/dev/input using Remote plugin) and > MCE Remote for XBMC (lirc). Extremely easy to use and to control. > > If you have a software based output plugin and two remotes, you can use a > .lirc in combination with irexec which starts vdr-sxfe or XBMC. I've set > this up for a good friend where his MCE Remote has two perticular buttons > (LiveTV and DVD) configured for starting two scripts which then starts > xine or XBMC. He then uses the MCE Remote (minus the two buttons) for XBMC > and his other remote (Hauppauge) with VDR through the Remote plugin and > /dev/input location. > > Oh, and the software based solution has a high WAF according to my friend :) > >> /Magnus >> > > Regards, > > Niels Wagenaar > > > > I did something similar with a logitech universal remote. If interrested, take a look at (sorry, in french !): http://dvbkivabien2.info/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=12774&p=127158&hilit=splinux#… Regards, SP

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Re: [vdr] MythTV Adds Support For NVIDIA VDPAU
by Niels Wagenaar 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

-----Original message----- From: Torgeir Veimo <torgeir(a)pobox.com> Sent: Mon 01-12-2008 12:58 To: VDR Mailing List <vdr(a)linuxtv.org>; Subject: Re: [vdr] MythTV Adds Support For NVIDIA VDPAU > > On 1 Dec 2008, at 21:49, Magnus Hörlin wrote: > > > I have introduced VDR to at least 20 people (mostly windows-users) > > over the years, but this may be the day it ends. > > It appears you think that VDR will never get a plugin that can utilise > the VDPAU (or similar) api? > Why should it depend on VDR or its plugins? The only reason when VDPAU would be used, is in combination with software based device output plugins like the xine & xineliboutput. As soon as Xine supports VDPAU, then the VDR plugins *should* support it as well. For other (read: hardware) output devices, VDPAU isn't used at all. And from my point of view, MythTV is still not as accesible compared too for instance Mediaportal or Microsoft MCE. IMHO, the best combo is still VDR for DVB viewing in combination with XBMC for multimedia viewing. But then again, this is my oppinion :-) Regards, Niels Wagenaar

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MythTV Adds Support For NVIDIA VDPAU
by Goga777 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

FYI http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Njg4Ng Posted by Michael Larabel on November 29, 2008 Last month NVIDIA brought PureVideo features to Linux through a new API they call the Video Decode and Presentation API for Unix in their NVIDIA 180.xx driver. NVIDIA also provided a set of patches that enabled MPlayer to use this API that offloads video decoding and other tasks to the GPU. The formats supported by VDPAU are currently H.264, MPEG, WMV3, and VC-1. In our VDPAU benchmarks we found this NVIDIA video implementation to work very well and the CPU usage was much lower during video playback. With NVIDIA providing a header file in the driver that details this API, the community has been able to study VDPAU and one of the first fruits of this work is now available. Committed to MythTV is a VDPAU decoder. VDPAU in MythTV has full OSD (On-Screen Display), de-interlacers, color controls, and codecs support through the Video Decode and Presentation API for Unix. MythTV will automatically use VDPAU when it's compatible with the video format otherwise it falls back to using X-Video. According to those that have tested it already, this community VDPAU implementation in MythTV actually exceeds that of NVIDIA's patch in MPlayer when it comes to quality and its capabilities. This should be great news to anyone with a recent NVIDIA graphics card that uses MythTV for their HTPC needs.

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Re: [vdr] MythTV Adds Support For NVIDIA VDPAU
by Niels Wagenaar 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

Op Ma, 1 december, 2008 17:31, schreef Magnus Andersson: > >> And from my point of view, MythTV is still not as accesible compared too >> for instance Mediaportal or Microsoft MCE. IMHO, the best combo is still >> VDR for DVB viewing in combination with XBMC for multimedia viewing. But >> then again, this is my oppinion :-) >> >> Regards, >> >> Niels Wagenaar >> > > I agree. Do you have a working script or a good way to switch between > xbmc and vdr? There are a few threads about this at > http://xbmc.org/forum/ but no good solution. I want to use vdr as I use > it today with fast channelswitching and without http connection to > streamdev plugin. > I use VDR in combination with the Reel HDe and XBMC in Xubuntu 8.10. The HDE uses HDMI while XBMC is using the onboard VGA connection. I use two remotes : Hauppauge remote for VDR (/dev/input using Remote plugin) and MCE Remote for XBMC (lirc). Extremely easy to use and to control. If you have a software based output plugin and two remotes, you can use a .lirc in combination with irexec which starts vdr-sxfe or XBMC. I've set this up for a good friend where his MCE Remote has two perticular buttons (LiveTV and DVD) configured for starting two scripts which then starts xine or XBMC. He then uses the MCE Remote (minus the two buttons) for XBMC and his other remote (Hauppauge) with VDR through the Remote plugin and /dev/input location. Oh, and the software based solution has a high WAF according to my friend :) > /Magnus > Regards, Niels Wagenaar

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Re: [vdr] MythTV Adds Support For NVIDIA VDPAU
by Niels Wagenaar 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

-----Original message----- From: Torgeir Veimo <torgeir(a)pobox.com> Sent: Mon 01-12-2008 12:58 To: VDR Mailing List <vdr(a)linuxtv.org>; Subject: Re: [vdr] MythTV Adds Support For NVIDIA VDPAU > > On 1 Dec 2008, at 21:49, Magnus Hörlin wrote: > > > I have introduced VDR to at least 20 people (mostly windows-users) > > over the years, but this may be the day it ends. > > It appears you think that VDR will never get a plugin that can utilise > the VDPAU (or similar) api? > Why should it depend on VDR? The only reason when VDPAU would be used, is in combination with software based device output plugins like the xine & xineliboutput. As soon as Xine supports VDPAU, then the VDR with the plugins *should* support it as well. For other (read: hardware) output devices, VDPAU isn't used at all. And from my point of view, MythTV is still not as accesible compared too for instance Mediaportal or Microsoft MCE. IMHO, the best combo is still VDR for DVB viewing in combination with XBMC for multimedia viewing. But then again, this is my oppinion :-) Regards, Niels Wagenaar

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